sirozha

Shame on you, Tim Cook. I’m saying it as a shareholder. 

Next, remove Israeli flag to appease the Arabs. 

randominternetperson said:

Rather embarrassing for Greece and Portugal to be in the same category as Estonia, Slovakia, and Slovenia.  Is there are a term for "first world" countries that aren't quite as "first world" as the others?  But hey, at least they are ahead of every African country and every Western Hemisphere country other than the US, Canada, and Brazil.

Why is it embarrassing for Greece or Portugal to be in the same category as Slovenia or Estonia? Have you ever been to Greece? How about Estonia? 

jedwards87 said:

"Chromebooks are a gateway into the Google ecosystem." Except not really. My son uses Chromebooks at school but have absolutely zero interest in them outside of school. And that goes for Google services too. Pretty much how every single of of his friends feel too. They laugh at Chromebooks.


"So, who cares if Google makes money on Chromebooks or not?" Seriously ? For starters stock holders do. Also what corp has ever not cared about making money on a product ?

If you know anything about Google, you would know that Google’s history is riddled with projects and products that earn no money for the company. It’s not necessarily a bad thing either. Many of these products come out of the way Google conducts business. Every Googler is mandated to work 8 hours per week on his/her own project that he/she conceives. Some of these individual projects get endorsed by the upper management, get funded, and become a Google service or Google product released to the public. Most of these projects  never come out of beta and eventually fail, but Google considers this system to be a great way to tap into the ingenuity of their employees and encourage their employees to create their own products and projects. 

Say what you want about Android, but it did create a viable alternative to iOS while having made almost no money for Google. Say what you want about Google Maps and/or Waze, but they provide an incredible public service for billions of people around the world without charging users a penny. 

Say what you want about Chromebooks, but they allow public schools constantly starved of funding to provide access to amazing web-based curricula and save money to spend on other things that schools need. 

And as for Google search. If you are old enough, you would remember how long it took
to get information about anything at all before Google search was invented. I have the entire knowledge base of the entire humankind at my fingertips at all times and can get information about anything I want within a few seconds. In the past it could take days, weeks, or months to get this information. Yahoo wasn’t nearly as capable a search engine as Google, which came much later. Giogle search has made me tremendously more productive in life.

I can’t think of anything that Apple invented that is as revolutionary as Google search. I appreciate how delightful Macs are and how wonderful iPads are, and how great Apple watches are, but they did not revolutionize my life like Google search and Google Maps, which cost me absolutely nothing. 

chasm said:

sirozha said:

It doesn’t matter if one uses a Mac or a Chromebook to get to a web site.  Once you get there, it works the same way regardless of the OS running locally. Those web-based applications are not designed for a touch interface. They are designed for a pointing device.

Sorry, but I'm calling BS on this. First you say "once you get [to the web site], it works the same way regardless of the OS running locally." Then you contradict yourself by claiming said web site requires a "pointing device." as though a finger isn't a "pointing device." Simply put, no it doesn't.

Websites are designed for users to interact with almost exclusively using two actual input mechanisms: clicking (touching) and text input (requires a software or hardware keyboard). That's pretty much it.

Maybe you're unaware that iOS recently added an easier way to reposition a cursor in text? It always had a method for this, but iOS 12 introduced a more "mouse-like" way to do that. If that's the basis of your claim, then you're simply mistaken.

I'm looking forward to you supplying a few URLs of websites that won't work with fingers and keyboards. i can report them for not being ADA-compliant, and be eligible for a reward!

Not the educational cuticular websites. Those run web apps that are not designed for touch. These are not your run-of-the-mill web sites that adjust to the browser. 

Chromebooks are a gateway into the Google ecosystem. Public K12 buys millions of Chromebooks because public education doesn’t have enough money to buy Macs. If you know anything about the modern public education, you’ll know that web-base resources are utilized widely. Homework is almost entirely web based. There are educational curriculum companies that have entire curricula available for public schools to subscribe to, and all of that is web based.

It doesn’t matter if one uses a Mac or a Chromebook to get to a web site.  Once you get there, it works the same way regardless of the OS running locally. Those web-based applications are not designed for a touch interface. They are designed for a pointing device. Apple shoots itself in the balls by stubbornly continuing to ban the mouse from the iPad. That is the biggest reason why K12 buy Chromebooks and not cheap iPads with an external keyboard. People need a mouse to navigate a web site designed for a pointing device.

For whatever reason, Apple’s iTunes university didn’t take in K12. Apple’s framework for educational apps is not widely used either; at least not as widely as web-based curricula. 

So, who cares if Google makes money on Chromebooks or not? Hardware is not Google’s core business. It’s Apple’s core business, though, and Apple doesn’t seem to care that they have lost the public education sector in the US.