sirozha

Mike Wuerthele said:

sirozha said:

StrangeDays said:

sirozha said:

With all due respect, iCloud is nothing like Azure or AWS. 

Azure and AWS are not only storage services but mostly cloud compute services. You can run your entire data center in AWS or Azure. Can you run anything in iCloud? 

For crying out loud, iCloud can't even implement folder sharing among family members. That's just embarrassing, provided that Dropbox was able to do this 10 years ago. 

Apple had MobileMe with cloud storage before Dropbox was founded, and now, over 15 years later, we still can't share folders! I upgraded all my Macs from Mojave to Catalina a couple weeks ago in order to be able to share folders among family members. Guess what I found out? This feature, which was promised during WWDC 2019, was not implemented in Catalina and was delayed until "Spring 2020". Seriously, Apple? Another disaster project from hell, just like Car Play, Apple Maps, and Siri. 

iCloud does very very little compared to even Dropbox. Don't brig up Azure or AWS in the same article with iCloud because those services are lightyears ahead of iCloud. 

When one speaks of Apples services, iCloud should be used as an example of how NOT to do services. Apple did well with Apple Pay and perhaps Apple Card (I wouldn't know anything about Apple Card, as I am not planning to have it). Apple TV+, Apple Maps, CarPlay, Siri, and iCloud, are serious flops on Apple's part. Yes, Apple Maps is still a disaster just like it was in 2012. CarPlay is so inferior to Android Auto that it's not even close. Even when running Google Maps on CarPlay, you can't get anywhere near in functionality of what Android Auto can do, and that's mostly because of how inferior Siri is to Google Assistant. Apple Maps is so bad that you can't use it to navigate to any POI reliably. It simply lacks the intelligence of Google Assistant + Google Search + Google Maps running in Android Auto. For that reason, I keep a cheap Android phone permanently connected to my car's head unit in order to use Android Auto. All my other phones are iPhones. 

What a load of horse shit. I use every one of these services and enjoy doing so. Cite your data that establishes they are “flops” — you being down on Apple isn’t evidence.

As for AWS, you clearly don’t get what these services are. AWS and Azure are indeed enterprise platforms, that’s their purpose. iCloud is a consumer offering. Dur. 

Oh, I know what AWS and Azure are. I deploy data centers on those platforms. I wasn’t the one who compared iCloud to AWS and Azure. The author of this article did. 

He did not. Read it again. Saying something is a stepping stone, is not the same as making a comparison.

How is iCloud a stepping stone to a platform like Azure or AWS? Perhaps, the author meant that iCloud is a stepping stone to Dropbox and Box? Or, perhaps, the author has no clue what AWS or Azure is. 

Apple should have made Apple TV+ into a super service like iTines was back 15 years ago. They should have had live TV with a la cart channels as well as streaming content and movies for sale and for rent. There was so much stuff Apple could have done with Apple TV+. 

red oak said:

sirozha said:

With all due respect, iCloud is nothing like Azure or AWS. 

Azure and AWS are not only storage services but mostly cloud compute services. You can run your entire data center in AWS or Azure. Can you run anything in iCloud? 

For crying out loud, iCloud can't even implement folder sharing among family members. That's just embarrassing, provided that Dropbox was able to do this 10 years ago. 


Apple had MobileMe with cloud storage before Dropbox was founded, and now, over 15 years later, we still can't share folders! I upgraded all my Macs from Mojave to Catalina a couple weeks ago in order to be able to share folders among family members. Guess what I found out? This feature, which was promised during WWDC 2019, was not implemented in Catalina and was delayed until "Spring 2020". Seriously, Apple? Another disaster project from hell, just like Car Play, Apple Maps, and Siri. 

iCloud does very very little compared to even Dropbox. Don't brig up Azure or AWS in the same article with iCloud because those services are lightyears ahead of iCloud. 

When one speaks of Apples services, iCloud should be used as an example of how NOT to do services. Apple did well with Apple Pay and perhaps Apple Card (I wouldn't know anything about Apple Card, as I am not planning to have it). Apple TV+, Apple Maps, CarPlay, Siri, and iCloud, are serious flops on Apple's part. Yes, Apple Maps is still a disaster just like it was in 2012. CarPlay is so inferior to Android Auto that it's not even close. Even when running Google Maps on CarPlay, you can't get anywhere near in functionality of what Android Auto can do, and that's mostly because of how inferior Siri is to Google Assistant. Apple Maps is so bad that you can't use it to navigate to any POI reliably. It simply lacks the intelligence of Google Assistant + Google Search + Google Maps running in Android Auto. For that reason, I keep a cheap Android phone permanently connected to my car's head unit in order to use Android Auto. All my other phones are iPhones. 

Please - just stop using Apple products and move on.  You are just miserable 

I can use Apple products without using Apple services. I still use iCloud for cloud backup of my photos, but that's pretty much it. I'm paying Apple $10/month to be able to back up a 700 GB photo/video library in iCloud. I love ApplePay, which is a good example of how all Apple services should be. I will never get Apple Music, Apple TV+, or use CarPlay unless Apple finally gets serious with CarPlay and Siri. I tried CarPlay when it first came out, and I keep trying to use it every 6 months or so to see how it improved because I don't want to keep an Android phone just for car navigation. Unfortunately, CarPlay is not getting any better, and in fact, it's lagging more and more behind Android Auto. On the other hand, I don't think you ever used Android Auto, so you really don't know better and think CarPlay is a flawless system.  Most iPhone users have never tried Android Auto, so they really don't understand what they are missing in the car navigation and car virtual assistant with CarPlay and Siri. 

With all due respect, iCloud is nothing like Azure or AWS. 

Azure and AWS are not only storage services but mostly cloud compute services. You can run your entire data center in AWS or Azure. Can you run anything in iCloud? 

For crying out loud, iCloud can't even implement folder sharing among family members. That's just embarrassing, provided that Dropbox was able to do this 10 years ago. 


Apple had MobileMe with cloud storage before Dropbox was founded, and now, over 15 years later, we still can't share folders! I upgraded all my Macs from Mojave to Catalina a couple weeks ago in order to be able to share folders among family members. Guess what I found out? This feature, which was promised during WWDC 2019, was not implemented in Catalina and was delayed until "Spring 2020". Seriously, Apple? Another disaster project from hell, just like Car Play, Apple Maps, and Siri. 

iCloud does very very little compared to even Dropbox. Don't brig up Azure or AWS in the same article with iCloud because those services are lightyears ahead of iCloud. 

When one speaks of Apples services, iCloud should be used as an example of how NOT to do services. Apple did well with Apple Pay and perhaps Apple Card (I wouldn't know anything about Apple Card, as I am not planning to have it). Apple TV+, Apple Maps, CarPlay, Siri, and iCloud, are serious flops on Apple's part. Yes, Apple Maps is still a disaster just like it was in 2012. CarPlay is so inferior to Android Auto that it's not even close. Even when running Google Maps on CarPlay, you can't get anywhere near in functionality of what Android Auto can do, and that's mostly because of how inferior Siri is to Google Assistant. Apple Maps is so bad that you can't use it to navigate to any POI reliably. It simply lacks the intelligence of Google Assistant + Google Search + Google Maps running in Android Auto. For that reason, I keep a cheap Android phone permanently connected to my car's head unit in order to use Android Auto. All my other phones are iPhones. 

StrangeDays said:

sjworld said:

Would have been a great time to sell when high a few days ago, and buy again when it crashed.

In general, not great advice. Playing at day trader isn’t a good investment strategy. When I was a lead dev at MarketWatch, the content SMEs instilled that point on us — find good investments for the long haul, and don’t try to play the market. Unless you have the money to lose and just like the adrenaline rush, that is. 

This is one strategy. Another strategy is invest part of your money for retirement and use another part to learn how to trade. People who know how to trade do not have to work in the corporate world. They make a living from the comfort of their home or anywhere else they want to be and are able to do something in life they like instead of being in the office 8 to 5 and then spending 2 more hours in traffic the entire adult life. 

If you are frugal, work hard when you are young, invest in good stock long term, etc., you can leave the corporate world in your 30s or 40s and have enough money to set aside a chunk of it for trading, thus regularly making money to live on, while the rest of your money is continuing to be invested long term for retirement. 

However, even if you have long-term positions in AAPL in your retirement accounts, there is nothing wrong in getting out when it's obvious the market is about to crash, like what happened this past Monday. Then, sit in cash or bonds and wait for the market to come down before jumping back in. You can never time the top and the bottom exactly, but you can surely take advantage of a 20% drop even if you can only realize 10% or 15% of that drop.

I'm not advocating day trading with retirement accounts, but the Coronavirus was well anticipated by anyone who cared to read sources like SCMP, which provided accurate coverage of Coronavirus and all the implications  for the Chinese economy and the supply chains. It was obvious to anyone who bothered to spend time getting information from reliable sources instead of watching CNN/Foxnews garbage or reading DED's fanboy essays on Apple Insider. 

Stop drinking the Kool-Aid that DED supplies. There is nothing wrong in being an Apple fan without being an Apple fanboy so that you can exercise critical thinking. DED's articles remind me of the communist propaganda that I was fed with when I was growing up in the Soviet Union.  It makes you dumb and blind because it is devoid of any critical thinking.