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  • Facebook app accesses iPhone camera without user's knowledge

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    gatorguy said:
    It wasn't a secret. It was announced back in July during a Google earnings call. 

    And yes Google makes money from it, and of course they would. Ascension is presumably paying them for the contracted development of the software, search platform and delivery management along with the cloud storage. They aren't making money from monetizing the personal health data itself according to all available information and disclosures. That's never changed, and even if it did HIPAA rules would prevent Google from using any of the data beyond the permitted uses even if "evil Google" would want to. /s
    https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/inside-google-cloud/our-partnership-with-ascension
    That was a good read, thanks. Makes me wonder why the WSJ is stating "Deal with Ascension health system aimed at improving patient care provides Google with health-data gold mine" and why there is now a 'federal inquiry'.

    If they're ISO27001, have HIPAA, BAA and all that there shouldn't be any 'inquiries'.

    PS: how do you get notified on new posts at this site? I've ticked on all possible notifications, but receive nothing. Need to reload a page where I've commented to see if someone replied. Tnx

    watto_cobra

  • Facebook app accesses iPhone camera without user's knowledge

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    gatorguy said:
    Without informing who? Wouldn't it be Ascensions responsibility to get the users permission which that company says they have. Google would not necessarily have the customer's preferred method of communication to begin with so they could hardly be expected to do so. That's Ascensions job.

    It's pretty common for health information to be stored on-line using cloud companies from Amazon to Microsoft to Google. The cloud provider is not responsible for asking the individual user for permission to store it under HIPAA rules on behalf of the the first party service provider. 
    That I get. It's the fact that Google 'began Project Nightingale in secret last year with St. Louis-based Ascension, a Catholic chain of 2,600 hospitals, doctors’ offices and other facilities, with the data sharing accelerating since summer, according to internal documents. Neither patients nor doctors have been notified. At least 150 Google employees already have access to much of the data on tens of millions of patients, according to a person familiar with the matter and the documents.'

    It would appear that Google isn't storing data, like Amazon does for Apple, amongst others, but are actively crunching numbers, to do...what? One would assume to make money off of it. But I could be wrong there. Google also has created Internet Access to rural loctions. Still, I see this as a privacy issue, like the FB article.



    watto_cobra

  • Facebook app accesses iPhone camera without user's knowledge

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    gatorguy said:
    Google isn't "collecting personal health data on millions of people". Ascension, the company that does and with the users permission, contracted Google to design a "search engine" for their company's use in coordinating with other health providers, and all in accordance with HIPAA laws. This was publicly announced back in June so it's not secret nor is it new. The WSJ who published the initial story erroneously thought they had discovered something being hidden, some "secret project to steal your health information" and other blogs like your link just ran with it. 

    As an aside Google does not & has not used personal health information for targeted ads, nor do they allow their ad platform to be used for doing so by the advertisers. 

    Perhaps getting back on topic might be a better idea. 
    This is clear. And I wasn't referring to ads, merely the fact that Google is storing health data of millions of people. With their names and birthdates. Project Nightingale is tunening artificial intelligence software that 'may help improve patient care', according to the report. Yet, without informing them. This is a $3.5T a year thing. Something tells me Google wants a slice of that.

    Keeping it secret (not the project, but what they're doing with the data) is very much on topic. It's a privacy issue.



    magman1979lostkiwiwatto_cobra

  • Facebook app accesses iPhone camera without user's knowledge

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    Who in their right mind gives the FB app permission to use the camera and microphone? Then again, this is likely less severe than Google collecting personal health data on millions of people.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/secret-google-project-is-collecting-personal-health-data-on-millions-of-people-2019-11-11?dist=bigcharts



    magman1979cat52Carnagewatto_cobra

  • Editorial: Steve Jobs shared secrets of Apple's iPad but nobody listened

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    Soli said:
    I can still get iPhone apps on my iPad Pro. Almost too many. 
    I had thought Apple had put the kibosh on that years ago, but maybe that what users did because it was such a shitty experience.
    "kibosh"

    Thank you! (always love to learn new words)
    Soliwatto_cobra