ilarynx

9secondkox2 said:

melgross said:

Cesar Battistini Maziero said:

Trump winning its a given at this point.

The world needs it.

Fortunately no. The world needs for him to be put in a home.

It’s almost cruelty that Jill and co. Haven’t set up Joe in a nursing facility already. There has been FAR too much embarrassment from the guy. Not only can he not ambulate safely, but routinely spaces out and needs handholding and direction for the most basic things. Recently have you seen the looks on the Italian and Canadian prime ministers faces as Joe basically disappeared without going anywhere? The guy needs to retire and get consistent care. He may only be a little older than Trump, but he’s declined so much faster. Meanwhile trump is holding his own and then some with master manipulators and fast talkers like Logan Paul. 

You may not like Trump, but he is clearly the far more sound candidate than Biden - and pretty much everyone else in that side of the aisle. 

9secondkox2 said:

Looks like folks have had enough experimentation gone wrong snd want a proven leader again, so good move by cook. 

Still love this photo of Cook doing his best Squidward impression. 

beowulfschmidt said:

ilarynx said:

beowulfschmidt said:

ilarynx said:

welshdog said:

Trump is the unsurprising result of concepts and rhetoric that were started by Reagan. He used his phony, homespun speaking style to convince people that it was okay to dislike your government. It was okay to disassemble your government because "big" was bad. It was okay to think that helping people in need was an intolerable expense. While Reagan is not so popular with young extremist conservatives now, he and his goals were worshipped by Republicans for a couple decades. During that time you can see how each wave of conservative victories at the national level led to incrementally more extreme positions. Newt Gingrich, Lee Atwater, Karl Rove, GW Bush, neo cons, the Tea Party and now the most extreme - MAGA. Reagan started the ball rolling and Trump is the result anyone paying even slight attention should have expected was coming.

“The biggest threat to America today is not communism, it’s moving America toward a fascist theocracy, and everything that’s happened in the Reagan administration is steering us right down that pipe.” 

- Frank Zappa, 1986

To be fair, FDR is the one who really kick-started the trend towards fascism in the U.S., though there were arguably hints of it even before then.

Only when you replace "fair" with "stupid" in that sentence does it become accurate. 

However, it does provide lots of laughs when you run across someone whose lessons in "history" have come from sources such as the Daily Caller and Info Wars. On even numbered days the wing-nuts declare FDR the biggest socialist on the planet, and on odd numbered days apparently he's declared the biggest fascist on the planet. Such ahistorical declarations can be quite hilarious, and equally pathetic. 

To paraphrase an old adage, "Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to be laughed at."

https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/four-freedoms

Imprisoning an entire race of people based on their heritage, without any kind of due process, seems pretty fascist to me.

Transferring all the monetary gold in the country to the government, without any kind of due process, seems pretty fascist to me.

There is a tendency these days to throw the word “fascist” at anything one disagrees with, or just unpleasant or unsavory actions. 

The internment of US citizens of Japanese descent after the declaration of war that resulted from Japan’s attack on Pearl Harbor, was certainly racist and against the spirit of American ideals, but whether it fits the definition of fascism is a different question. 

A formal declaration of war puts enormous power into the Executive branch. As for “due process” the SCOTUS at the time ruled in the Korematsu case that FDR’s actions were Constitutional. 

I agree with you and with most people today that the Korematsu decision was horribly flawed, but the case did go through the process at the time. 

As for the transfer of gold, that was the result of flawed monetary system tied to gold.

I guess Nixon’s Wage & Price Freeze was also fascistic “as you see it.” But “wrong”, “flawed”, “dumb”, even “illegal” do not necessarily equate to “fascistic.” 

beowulfschmidt said:

ilarynx said:

welshdog said:

Trump is the unsurprising result of concepts and rhetoric that were started by Reagan. He used his phony, homespun speaking style to convince people that it was okay to dislike your government. It was okay to disassemble your government because "big" was bad. It was okay to think that helping people in need was an intolerable expense. While Reagan is not so popular with young extremist conservatives now, he and his goals were worshipped by Republicans for a couple decades. During that time you can see how each wave of conservative victories at the national level led to incrementally more extreme positions. Newt Gingrich, Lee Atwater, Karl Rove, GW Bush, neo cons, the Tea Party and now the most extreme - MAGA. Reagan started the ball rolling and Trump is the result anyone paying even slight attention should have expected was coming.

“The biggest threat to America today is not communism, it’s moving America toward a fascist theocracy, and everything that’s happened in the Reagan administration is steering us right down that pipe.” 

- Frank Zappa, 1986

To be fair, FDR is the one who really kick-started the trend towards fascism in the U.S., though there were arguably hints of it even before then.

welshdog said:

Trump is the unsurprising result of concepts and rhetoric that were started by Reagan. He used his phony, homespun speaking style to convince people that it was okay to dislike your government. It was okay to disassemble your government because "big" was bad. It was okay to think that helping people in need was an intolerable expense. While Reagan is not so popular with young extremist conservatives now, he and his goals were worshipped by Republicans for a couple decades. During that time you can see how each wave of conservative victories at the national level led to incrementally more extreme positions. Newt Gingrich, Lee Atwater, Karl Rove, GW Bush, neo cons, the Tea Party and now the most extreme - MAGA. Reagan started the ball rolling and Trump is the result anyone paying even slight attention should have expected was coming.

“The biggest threat to America today is not communism, it’s moving America toward a fascist theocracy, and everything that’s happened in the Reagan administration is steering us right down that pipe.” 

- Frank Zappa, 1986