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Notsofast said:

frac said:

redefiler said:

iantimmy123 said:

Just waiting now for the idiotic statements saying that more guns would have prevented this.

The rest of the world just looks in total bemusement at why Americans still think it's safe for guns to be so common and easily accessible. But then if the country didn't learn from mass shootings in schools, they never will. 

Oh cool, because I was waiting for some simpleton to bring up the same old ignorant, quivering gun fears.  Might want to read up on how well French (or even California) gun laws have helped with preventing shootings and terror.  Not even waiting for the bodies to cool, before 'firing up' your political agenda, stay classy Timmy.

But we get it, you're a wimp and you just keep on waving that little yellow flag, tiger.

Instead of cherry picking examples, how about an unrefutable statistic. 
Japan has banned handguns, has tough qualification rules, yearly exams, no more than three gunshots per prefecture, new shells only on receipt of empty cases, mental health checks, background checks, family and friends background checks...and much more. The result is a very low level of gun ownership - 0.6 guns per 100 people in 2007, according to the Small Arms Survey, compared to 6.2 in England and Wales and 88.8 in the US.
In 2014 there were just six gun deaths in Japan, compared to 33,599 in the US.
Dissemble all you want. If you cannot see the correlation, you are in denial. Or stupid. 

Can the mods please remove the political discussion to another area of the forum. Otherwise, it just degrades to this silly name calling or silly statistics war where we do illogical things like cherry pick statistics from dissimilar cultures to argue a point. 

SpamSandwich said:

frac said:

redefiler said:

iantimmy123 said:

Just waiting now for the idiotic statements saying that more guns would have prevented this.

The rest of the world just looks in total bemusement at why Americans still think it's safe for guns to be so common and easily accessible. But then if the country didn't learn from mass shootings in schools, they never will. 

Oh cool, because I was waiting for some simpleton to bring up the same old ignorant, quivering gun fears.  Might want to read up on how well French (or even California) gun laws have helped with preventing shootings and terror.  Not even waiting for the bodies to cool, before 'firing up' your political agenda, stay classy Timmy.

But we get it, you're a wimp and you just keep on waving that little yellow flag, tiger.

Instead of cherry picking examples, how about an unrefutable statistic. 
Japan has banned handguns, has tough qualification rules, yearly exams, no more than three gunshots per prefecture, new shells only on receipt of empty cases, mental health checks, background checks, family and friends background checks...and much more. The result is a very low level of gun ownership - 0.6 guns per 100 people in 2007, according to the Small Arms Survey, compared to 6.2 in England and Wales and 88.8 in the US.
In 2014 there were just six gun deaths in Japan, compared to 33,599 in the US.
Dissemble all you want. If you cannot see the correlation, you are in denial. Or stupid. 

It's unwise to compare countries and cultures that are so vastly different as Japan and the US. Culturally, politically, historically, geographically very, very different.

redefiler said:

iantimmy123 said:

Just waiting now for the idiotic statements saying that more guns would have prevented this.

The rest of the world just looks in total bemusement at why Americans still think it's safe for guns to be so common and easily accessible. But then if the country didn't learn from mass shootings in schools, they never will. 

Oh cool, because I was waiting for some simpleton to bring up the same old ignorant, quivering gun fears.  Might want to read up on how well French (or even California) gun laws have helped with preventing shootings and terror.  Not even waiting for the bodies to cool, before 'firing up' your political agenda, stay classy Timmy.

But we get it, you're a wimp and you just keep on waving that little yellow flag, tiger.

sdw2001 said:

What are they going to do? Raid their offices with the guns they don't carry?  Or, as you implied...Apple should call their bluff.  Highlight the jobs and revenue Apple brings and threaten to pull out if they don't back off.  

flaneur said:

AirPods are the new iPod. Amazing devices, a joy to use. Inventec should stay busy indefinitely.