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mknelson said:

Uhhh, K.

So devices that usually ship in 3-5 days are coming up at weeks? But, no effect?

22july2013 said:

In the long run this is a huge win for Apple and Google, because they now have the opportunity to pull their business (at least their app store businesses) out of South Korea (the moment the new law takes effect) and show the world the consequences of what happens when governments make a 25% profit level and free enterprise illegal.

Of course, if Apple and Google don't pull out, then it's a loss for them, because their 30% fee (which is probably a 20-25% profit level for that service) on services will collapse worldwide. But Apple and Google need to appear that they aren't happy about this development. And baed on what I read in this article, they appear unhappy.

I don't expect a single human being to see it my way, so I'm not planning to come back here to see everyone calling me a fool. And I don't expect to be hailed as a prophet if Apple and Google do exactly as I'm suggesting. I'm glad Biden and the US government is so anti-big-tech, it means these events are more likely to happen. I am so excited about this news, and I suspect the top people in Apple and Google feel privately the same.

lkrupp said:

lam92103 said:

Finally!! A win for developers and customers

Nope. Total loss for developers and customers. Less exposure and more marketing costs for developers as they find themselves responsible for their own promotion. No more free marketing provided by Apple. Developer’s apps will just exist on the app store with no promotion unless they pay for it. What do you think that 30% cut was for anyway? They must fend for themselves. No cut for Apple means developers will have to pay more upfront for being on the app store shelves. Free apps will suffer or disappear onto third party app stores. 

Higher prices, more confusion, and less security for customers as they are exposed to malware riddled third party app stores. Customers will buy an app on a third party app store only to find Apple will block it from running for security or privacy reasons. You think Apple is just going to roll over on this? If a third party app breaks Apple’s existing security/privacy rules do you really think they’ll let it run on iOS or iPad OS? That app will run for awhile and then suddenly break. 

The only people who will benefit are the ones who don’t even know what the word ‘monopoly’ means. They’ll pay lip service to the ‘freedom’ they ‘won’ for themselves.

JWSC said:

One wonders how far Apple will go down this path until they finally say No.  What’s the threshold?

djkfisher said:

Hank2.0 said:

Appleish said:

My guess, is that their suggestion, is right. It will happen in the background

Yes but how do you know it's been applied? Mine shows version 0x0060. I'm guessing with a number that low it hasn't been upgraded but that's still a guess.

I just checked and we have firmware version
0x0061