guelahpapyrus69

I see someone beat me to it.

Here's a another link to its history

http://www.mercurynews.com/2014/12/26/apple-to-save-historic-barn-on-site-of-new-cupertino-campus/

JinTech said:

An observation and a curious question...

1. Besides the roads to the parking garage and the garage itself, it appears there will be no pavement/gravel at this campus. 

2. Does anyone know what the shack (compared to the campus) is next to the gym? As pictured below.

The old "shack" is a barn that was original to the property. They took it apart board by board and reassembled it at that location. I'll look for a link to it. 

gatorguy said:

guelahpapyrus69 said:

gatorguy said:

guelahpapyrus69 said:

jkichline said:

There's got to be some reason why not just Apple, but other manufacturers are on the outs with Qualcomm.

I don't have links to various articles I've read handy. But it is my understanding that besides double-dipping accusations.

Qualcomm has been charging licensing fees based on the value of the finished product even though the part is the same. Apple has stated that every time they add new tech to their products (3D touch, AR, oled etc) that adds value or higher selling price, Qualcomm wants more licensing fees.

Apple has been paying more for a 7+ than a $200 commodity phone even if they have the exact same chips. This would be like other manufacturers charging you more for your furniture, appliances, tv's etc if your house was worth $1 million instead of $100,000.

Like property tax? 

Yeah. I guess it's like a property tax in some sense. That the more value the device has the more you pay. Except with property taxes, they are based on the land, size and configuration of the buildings. Not so much what's inside. This extends that concept to your Sony tv  "taxing" you more as a royalty for you have a nicer house.

Phone=House
Property tax=royalties

Seems like a closer comparison than talking about the furniture which is optional and not integral. 

But property taxes are based on the house. Not what's inside. Your house isn't worth for tax purposes the value of the land, house and furnishings added together. The Qualcomm chip is closer to a furnishing in the house than it is to the roof, pool or sq footage.

greenmeenie said:

why invest all this money in china? Why not build these r&d facilities here in the USA? And recruit talent from US universities? 

Apple has massive amounts of investment in R&D and office space in the US.

1) 850,000 sq ft - campus 1 - Cupertino
2) 3.3 mil sq ft in multiple buildings in Cupertino
3) 2.8 mil sq ft - campus 2 - Cupertino
4) 777,000 sq ft - campus 3 - Sunnyvale
5) 4.6 mil sq ft - campus 4? - San Jose

thats just from a quick search. Granted most of #2 will probably fold into #3. But that still leaves 9 mil sq ft that they mostly own with the rest on long term 10 yr plus leases.

how much more should or will need here? That's a massive amount of corporate office/development/R&D space.

As others have mentioned with the current political atmosphere around visa's plus over 90% of their cash on hand is sitting oversea's. It makes sense to build facilities abroad.

they have facilities in Seattle, Texas, Arizona, North Carolina that I know of plus all the Apple stores. Over 100k employees in the US alone.

until the visa process becomes predictable, repatriation becomes an option etc. they seem to have the lions share of development here already. A  R&D/development facility in almost every country they have stores is inevitable over time.

they have or are setting up facilities in Ireland, India, Malaysia, Japan that I know of and now China. I could see them setting up facilities in Vancouver in the near future.

its understandable to feel that way on the surface of the announcement. But taking the whole picture of what they have or committed to build here. I don't feel they are neglecting the US for jobs or facilities at the moment.

sog35 said:

Services, Services, Services.

I've been saying this for over a year.

We will see $150 this year. 

I thought it was...

Developers, Developers, Developers...

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