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Apple's 'loss' is the best result for users, developers, Apple, and Epic
I don't see how claims of the App Store being a monopoly are ridiculous. If I own an iPhone, I have one place and one place only to buy the apps for my phone: the App Store. Can I buy a phone from a different manufacturer? Sure. But that was the case years ago as well when Microsoft was forced to remove Internet Explorer from Windows because their position in the market essentially gave them an unfair advantage in the browser wars. People had the opportunity to buy Linux and Apple machines. There were alternative operating systems for those who didn't want Internet Explorer, but EU regulators still made MS remove IE from Windows.mark fearing said:I believe this can be appealed, no? We may not have heard the end of this. But it's a good ruling that at least shuts down the ridiculous 'monopoly' argument. For now...
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Pay up or get out: Apple's options for South Korea's App Store law
Make all the excuses you want. iPhones and iPads are just different kinds of computers. There's no technical reason why apps have to be purchased through any kind of store. I don't think I should have access to the App Store for free, but I don't believe I should have to use the App Store to distribute my apps. That's only rule Apple put in place so that they could take 30% of my profit.j2fusion said:
And as a developer, you are not forced to develop for iOS. You develop for iOS because you know the potential market for your product is huge. The thing is, Apple by its products and policies has developed the most lucrative app market in the world and you seem to think you should have access to it for free. Perhaps I misread your post but that’s what it seems to me.tylersdad said:
No. As a developer, I feel I should not be limited to Apple's way of distributing apps to my users.rob53 said:
So you believe a developer has every right in the world to post their apps for free on the Apple App Store? Give me one legitimate reason why Apple should be required to host these apps for free. Apple doesn't charge for free apps but could start doing that if they wanted to. Apple could also start charging developers to even put their apps on the Apple App Store and if these stupid laws pass, I'm all for Apple doing that. There's no way anyone could force Apple to host things on their servers for free. It would be like me hosting your email server on my hardware, which I maintain, for free. Get a grip, I'd never do that and I doubt any company would do that. This shows how stupid these laws are.22july2013 said:Exciting times. I've been arguing for this for years and that's why so many people hate me on this forum.
Of course, if you want to have your own payment system, then be prepared for Apple to start charging you a hosting fee for every download and install of that app. That's only fair isn't it?
It's as simple as that. I won't use their infrastructure and they won't get any money from me (other than my developers subscription).
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Pay up or get out: Apple's options for South Korea's App Store law
Nice red herring fallacy. I don't develop for the Xbox.jbdragon said:tylersdad said:
Somehow I'm able to get my apps out to Windows users without the use of Microsoft's app store. Just like I've been doing since 1995.loopless said:Only people who have never developed an app for sale want this to happen. Apple takes care of everything for you, money just appears in your bank account. It's worth every penny.
So how is that working out for you on the X-box??? By the way, even though you don't use Microsoft's app store on Windows, look at all the security issues and viruses on that platform from people just downloading whatever from anywhere. An issue you don't see on the Xbox CLOSED Platform!!! You are trying to compare apples and oranges.
How about we look at the old days. You know the days before the Internet. You know where you had to get your Game or App massed produced onto floppy's or discs. You don't want to have so many made and lose money. Then there was Box Art, and instruction manuals. All put together and sealed. That is all costing YOU money. Then you had the distributors get your software out to all the stores. They took a cut. Then the Stores sold that software and they once again took their own cut.
You really have it EASY these days. A simple 30% cut and Ap[ple or Google handles everything. All you have to do is upload it into their store.
If people don't like it. They are FREE to create their own OS and Phones and have a completely open platform. There is not a single person stopping anyone from doing that. Create a better platform and people will flee to it.
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Pay up or get out: Apple's options for South Korea's App Store law
What difference does that make? An app is an app. An iPhone or an iPad is just another type of computer.killroy said:tylersdad said:
Why would I use their server? My customers are able to download apps from my website and install them.killroy said:tylersdad said:
No. As a developer, I feel I should not be limited to Apple's way of distributing apps to my users.rob53 said:
So you believe a developer has every right in the world to post their apps for free on the Apple App Store? Give me one legitimate reason why Apple should be required to host these apps for free. Apple doesn't charge for free apps but could start doing that if they wanted to. Apple could also start charging developers to even put their apps on the Apple App Store and if these stupid laws pass, I'm all for Apple doing that. There's no way anyone could force Apple to host things on their servers for free. It would be like me hosting your email server on my hardware, which I maintain, for free. Get a grip, I'd never do that and I doubt any company would do that. This shows how stupid these laws are.22july2013 said:Exciting times. I've been arguing for this for years and that's why so many people hate me on this forum.
Of course, if you want to have your own payment system, then be prepared for Apple to start charging you a hosting fee for every download and install of that app. That's only fair isn't it?
It's as simple as that. I won't use their infrastructure and they won't get any money from me (other than my developers subscription).
You well pay for use of their server. And you well be kicked off if your app has malware.
We are talking about iOS app store. Not the Mac app store.
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Pay up or get out: Apple's options for South Korea's App Store law
Why would I use their server? My customers are able to download apps from my website and install them.killroy said:tylersdad said:
No. As a developer, I feel I should not be limited to Apple's way of distributing apps to my users.rob53 said:
So you believe a developer has every right in the world to post their apps for free on the Apple App Store? Give me one legitimate reason why Apple should be required to host these apps for free. Apple doesn't charge for free apps but could start doing that if they wanted to. Apple could also start charging developers to even put their apps on the Apple App Store and if these stupid laws pass, I'm all for Apple doing that. There's no way anyone could force Apple to host things on their servers for free. It would be like me hosting your email server on my hardware, which I maintain, for free. Get a grip, I'd never do that and I doubt any company would do that. This shows how stupid these laws are.22july2013 said:Exciting times. I've been arguing for this for years and that's why so many people hate me on this forum.
Of course, if you want to have your own payment system, then be prepared for Apple to start charging you a hosting fee for every download and install of that app. That's only fair isn't it?
It's as simple as that. I won't use their infrastructure and they won't get any money from me (other than my developers subscription).
You well pay for use of their server. And you well be kicked off if your app has malware.
