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JosephAU said:

Wasn’t it realised 2 updates ago??

I first used the ECG on April 29th, not long after release.

Missed the window for editing.

'The power brick is going away because, effectively, mains AC power...' ---> 'The power brick is not going away because, effectively, mains AC power...'

mattinoz said:

iadlib said:

Duh. This is round trip for Jony. Back to rainbows after years of whites and shades of gray. 

They are seriously good colours in person. Best time to do it is when you can do it well. 

This is true, in my opinion at least. I can vouch for the blue finish.

AI_lias said:

The iMac design is nothing out of the ordinary that any industrial designer could not have thought of. Apple should move on from Ive. He is overrated. 

...and yet, here they are and there you are...

9secondkox2 said:

Happy_Noodle_Boy said:

9secondkox2 said:

Happy_Noodle_Boy said:

9secondkox2 said:

I’ve no doubt had a hand in the overall shape amd thinness. 

But there is no way he signed off on the power brick. 

There is so much room inside the new enclosure that the brick contents could be expanded and shielded. - especially since they decided to use a chin to house the SOC. 

Steve Jobs would not have went with the brick littering the floor idea. Neither would I’ve. 

It seems some questionable design choices have come along since Ive’s role changed. 

Big Sur has some unfortunate design choices as does the new iMac. 

One of the biggest pluses in Apple design is that they know when to say “no” to things. 

The fact that there is now a brick that just literally plops unceremoniously on your floor, littering it, is a definite sign that this is being forgotten. 

Hopefully they remember this and fix it. This is Apple. They have a rich heritage in figuring things out better than anyone else. But the whole brick thing just screens cheap, tacky, and very Microsoft or Dell-like. 

Here’s hoping I’ve had more of a hand in the forthcoming iMac Pro amd MacBook Pro designs. 

This is a great point and all you have to do is ignore all the products that came during the Job and Ive tenure that had power bricks. G4 Cube? Never existed, original AirPort? Completely fictional. AirPort Extreme? never heard of it. G4 Mac mini? What's that? Cinema displays? Fake news. Intel Mac mini? bullocks to that. 

That would be a great point - if we were talking a decade or more ago. And if we weren’t talking about desktop computers instead of routers and monitors, but since you brought it up...

Even the Apple thunderbolt display moved to packing the power supply INSIDE the enclosure. It used a CABLE which plugged elegantly into the wall. Nothing to trash up the floor. The Apple AirPort Extreme you mention? Yep. Cable. Direct to outlet. For the last couple generations actually. 

Oh. You want to talk about the original, ancient versions. Steve Jobs took those and put the power supplies inside, thanks. 

In fact, the old AirPort Extreme using a power adapter was one thing many reviewers derided as just another thing to have to manage or figure a way to hide. 

Here is one:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.macworld.com/article/195787/airportex09.html/amp

Apple ended up moving the power supply inside of that exact same enclosure in the time capsule. 

Thanks for making my point that the power brick was the old way of doing things. Those products are all around 10-15 years ago or more. 

And Jobs himself presided over the move to enclosed power supplies. It’s not to say he’d never use a brick. That’s just how things were forever ago. But he would not now. There is no need to. And it looks nasty. 

And by the way, the G4 cube was a flop. A rare bundle of bad decisions from a guy who was usually right, but also merely human. 

Power bricks suck. And do not belong in a 2021 Apple desktop. 

Heck even the iPads external charger plugs neatly into the wall outlet and doesn’t litter the floor. MacBook Pro? Power adapter/charger plugs neatly into the wall. 

Nobody wants a brick littering the floor. This isn’t 1990s or early 2000s. This is 2021 Apple. And power supply is an integral part of the computer. You literally cannot separate the two. The whole sleekness of the iMac is thrown off by the extension of it just plopped wherever you can find to put it. 

Apple, please put the power supply back inside the enclosure. It’s the right thing to do. 

Uhhhh.... I have to talk about a decade ago because we are talking about design decisions Steve Jobs signed off and and Steve passed away ..... wait for it .... wait for it.... ten years ago!  

As for your rambling and largely irrelevant rant. To just about everybody that isn't you this is a non-issue. This is not the big deal you so desperately want it to be. No, go outside, take a deep breath and enjoy life. 

So you literally made my point about the power brick being an old idea whose time has passed based on apples own transitions away from it - also signed off on by the same jobs. 

With advancement in capability comes advancement in product in line with the relentless match toward perfection by jobs and Apple. 

But hey, if you want to defend the power brick to your dying breath and pretend that this is somehow a good thing or improvement, more power to you. Fisher price is looking for investors. 

The power brick is going away because, effectively, mains AC power this close to a system such as the new M1 iMac is going to be a relic of the past. Plugging a mains cord into such a computer will be seen as laughable. Apple again is at the front. Thanks Apple.

macxpress said:

sflocal said:

macxpress said:

eriamjh said:

I hope the 30” comes with some USB-A, ports, six TB4s, and room for internal expansion like blade ssd.   

But I know it won’t.  

So basically you want a Mac Pro. 

Or an iMac with a TB3 dock like the Caldigit TS3+ which is what I have.  One single cable coming out of the iMac into a dock under my desk with all the USB-A, TB3, SD-Car, Headphone jack, and power.  All the cables are neatly tied underneath my standing desk with no clutter, and no reason to reach behind my Mac to plug/unplug devices.

Or get a MacPro like @macexpress said.

Seems like they want "Pro" features in a consumer device and yes, I would consider them Pro features based on Apple's existing desktop features. The iMac is a consumer device and should be treated as such, both by Apple and the consumer. You're not going to get expansion slots, many many ports, etc in a Apple's consumer lineup. If that's what you want then go find it elsewhere. 

There was a time that I was hypercritical of Apple for not including expansion slots or at least a Geek Port in systems. In those days I believe such would have increased interest in the Mac significantly. Today however things are different. High speed links allow data acquisition/control remote to the computer and now obviate mostly the need for internal slots. Video/sound engineers likely disagree and I respect that.

I'm interested too in discussion surrounding the concept of 'consumer vs pro' systems. I use my computers in science, which to me is pro. Is a system not a pro system if it doesn't have expansion slots? I can get time on a world ranked supercomputer, perhaps that is the true definition of a pro system.