muppetry

tallest skil said:

puppetry said:
Can you provide a single example of mainstream liberal thinking imposing liberal values on how others live their lives? Just one please.

Do you want attempts or things to fruition? Because attempts are just as valid, since they prove what liberals believe.

Do you want an example of the “ban it because I don’t like it” ethic?

Trans fats, soda, guns (unconstitutional), the Pledge of Allegiance, the word ‘welfare’, dolls, entire political parties, masculinity (the concept itself), marriage, diversity, etc.

Or maybe “accept it because you’re bigoted otherwise”?

Homosexuality, marijuana, amnesty, abortion, transsexuality, federalization (because liberals don’t only exist in America), etc.

Here’s the basic issue.

Conservatism is fundamentally predicated on the belief that there is a single, objective reality that is intelligible (read: can be understood). This, in turn, leads one to adopt specific codes of conduct and behaviors that we call a moral core.

Leftist thought is fundamentally predicated on the belief that everything is subjective and nothing is objectively true or capable of being understood. This, in turn, leads one to adopt a fluid and contradictory moral relativism.

Leftists often attack conservatives for being hypocritical. Indeed, conservatives can be very hypocritical. Take, for example, anti-drug politicians who abuse alcohol, or so called “free market capitalists” that give subsidies to oil companies. They get attacked for this stuff all the time, and I’d say you’re right to call them hypocrites.

Here’s the kicker: a moral relativist cannot be a hypocrite, because there is no situation where he’s objectively in the wrong, even when he is acting in disagreement with his own “morals.” You can’t call someone a moral hypocrite if they functionally have no morals. So when Hillary Clinton professes to be a feminist while taking donations from regimes that abuse women, or Obama professes to be transparent while obsessing over secrecy, or Michael Moore makes a movie trashing capitalism while making cash hand over fist off it, there’s no problem for them. It’s all relative. They don’t care.

The second big thing–and this is their most beloved tactic–is this: They accuse you of what they are doing to you. Just meditate on that sentence and you’ll start to see it everywhere.

Leftist thought is fundamentally predicated on the belief that everything is subjective and nothing is objectively true or capable of being understood.

It's not possible to have a reasoned discussion when your posts contain this kind of uneductaed BS. Where on earth do you get this nonsense from?

tallest skil said:

muppetry said:

Liberals, in general, don't want to tell you how to live your life.

That’s why they support totalitarian government, of course. And why only their social beliefs are “acceptable”.

Soli said: Which is why who we know as liberals are actually bigots.
Liberals fail to comprehend that. They project this delusion onto others, as shown by all of their discourse.
The hell is this coming from?
Two things. Actually four.

Tolerance is the virtue of the man without conviction.

– G. K. Chesterton

A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in an argument.

– Robert Frost

Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred.

– Jacques Barzun

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

– C. S. Lewis

tallest skil said:

Soli said:

So... every liberal, then. “Our way or the hourghway” is bigotry.

prox said:

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roake said:

muppetry said:

If that is as it appears to be, then the FBI's credibility score just lost a good few points.

I didn't realize that they still had any points left to lose.