You may think it's pointless speculation. I don't. I believe that if Apple announces Power Macs before WWDC, it means that something else major will be shown at WWDC.
Good for you. But it's still a speculation...and pointless one if you're not going to plan around it.
If people knew exactly when Apple would release products, I can bet you most people would hold off buying a new Mac, or sell their current Mac a few days before the release while their computer is still top of the line.
If you did this right now...you'd be taking a huge risk. Just like anyone who thought a PowerMac update was coming 3 months ago were taking a big risk selling their Mac.
ATI finally announced their long-rumored PCI Express video cards today. Wasn't lack of PCI Express video cards once cited as the reason for G5 2.0 delays?
Any new hardware will probably be announced at WWDC at this point. Why would Apple waste the PR hoopla by releasing before WWDC?
Good for you. But it's still a speculation...and pointless one if you're not going to plan around it.
I'm not planning around it. And anyone who is should go into weather forecasting too. I'm just saying that if Power Mac revisions are announced prior to WWDC, people are going to speculate what will be left for WWDC. That's all.
ATI finally announced their long-rumored PCI Express video cards today. Wasn't lack of PCI Express video cards once cited as the reason for G5 2.0 delays?
Any new hardware will probably be announced at WWDC at this point. Why would Apple waste the PR hoopla by releasing before WWDC?
ATI finally announced their PCI Express mobile Radeon, the mobility Radeon X600, today. They announced their desktop PCI Express, the Radeon X800, last month.
The Developer store now has the PowerMac 1.6GHz with the same 7-10 days shipping time...
(When the PowerMac shipping times went to 7-10 days, the Developer Store was still same day for only the 1.6 model. Apple is offering a promotion for developers on the 1.6 model only, which includes a bigger discount than normal plus purchasing one would not require a Hardward Discount asset. Note also that the Xserve G5 is now 4-6 weeks, down from 5-7 weeks.)
Hardmac has an interesting update on this subject today. On reseller told them that he will have G5s in stock for today. New G5s? Quite improbable. The old ones? I think so. I am not sure if this info could mean anything.
Hardmac has an interesting update on this subject today. On reseller told them that he will have G5s in stock for today. New G5s? Quite improbable. The old ones? I think so. I am not sure if this info could mean anything.
Now Croquer strike again and pretend the new Power Macs will appear this Monday or Tuesday. They expect 3 models, the high end one being available in this summer. Let's wait and see, Tuesday is too close.
Now Croquer strike again and pretend the new Power Macs will appear this Monday or Tuesday. They expect 3 models, the high end one being available in this summer. Let's wait and see, Tuesday is too close.
And June 8th will be 10 days since the shipping changed from "same day" to "7-10 days"...
I'm not so sure that Apple will be doing the PowerMac updates tomorrow. It's a possibility, but it would seem odd to me that they'd go to the trouble of a big front-page graphic for the Airport Express announcement but yet use that graphic for only one day.
Also: the June 8th rumour is a Page 2 item, not Page 1.
So MacRumors is now saying that PowerMacs will come tomorrow, Tuesday, June 8. If true, that's bad news for those hoping for a big update.
If true, it sounds like a bump to 2.5 or 2.6 at the top end, and better (but still AGP) graphics. Fine with me, since that's all I was expecting at WWDC anyway. And it would make sense that Apple would do this now, since it's not a big enough deal for Steve to announce and remind everyone of his 3GHz promise last year. I'm sure he'd much rather focus on the G5 iMacs.
I'd love to be proven wrong, as my finger is hovering over the "Buy Now" button, but I can't believe Apple would introduce any new CPUs this close to WWDC. Even if it's just a speed bump, wouldn't Steve want to take five minutes to shroud them in the RDF so we believe they're better than they are?
I can recall several instances of new products coming quietly right AFTER shows, but never in the three weeks prior.
That being said, AirPort Express is exactly the kind of thing I would have expected him to talk up at WWDC, and it isn't even shipping until July, so...
And I hate to even put it into writing, but I'm also in the camp that expects G5 iMacs at WWDC. If we were just getting G4 speed bumps, we would have had them in April alongside the portables. Something's up. I think.
I'd love to be proven wrong, as my finger is hovering over the "Buy Now" button, but I can't believe Apple would introduce any new CPUs this close to WWDC. Even if it's just a speed bump, wouldn't Steve want to take five minutes to shroud them in the RDF so we believe they're better than they are?
Jobs doesn't seem to introduce simple speed bumps any more. They're beneath him. He'll do new machines, like the flat panel iMac, or the G5 PowerMac. And assuming they don't meet their 3 Ghz prediction, they probably don't want to draw attention to the speed bump anyway.
I agree with you that we may see a G5 iMac at WWDC. That's something they'll want to draw attention to with media coverage.
And assuming they don't meet their 3 Ghz prediction, they probably don't want to draw attention to the speed bump anyway.
Exactly my thoughts. If new Power Macs are to be shown tomorrow, they won't hit the 3 GHz barrier. I don't know if this rumor has any truth, but it is in agreement with the perception that Apple wouldn't keep the 3 GHz promise. I am afraid it is more than just a perception.
At one point Apple seemed to be trying to not have product introductions at MacWorld (and WWDC). This was to get the buyers out of the habit of waiting until these events to buy gear. I'd love to see Apple start doing more frequent bumps in speed and major changes as needed and not wait until MacWorld (or WWDC). With these announcements, it will be 2 years in a row that Apple has had major hardware announcements arount WWDC. I guess WWDC is the new summer MacWorld (not Boston).
Powermac speed bumps. All dual. 2.2, 2.4 and 2.6ghz. Mark my words. Laugh now, then when tomorrow comes, hail the almighty MarkyD, king of predictions!
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Originally posted by DHagan4755
You may think it's pointless speculation. I don't. I believe that if Apple announces Power Macs before WWDC, it means that something else major will be shown at WWDC.
Good for you. But it's still a speculation...and pointless one if you're not going to plan around it.
If people knew exactly when Apple would release products, I can bet you most people would hold off buying a new Mac, or sell their current Mac a few days before the release while their computer is still top of the line.
If you did this right now...you'd be taking a huge risk. Just like anyone who thought a PowerMac update was coming 3 months ago were taking a big risk selling their Mac.
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Originally posted by KCOM2006
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10 days from the time this delay was first noticed would bring us to NEXT Tuesday, not this Tuesday.
The best indicators are Apple's product distributors such as Ingram Micro etc...
7-10 days to me does indeed suggest that Apple has released their inventory out into the channel in preparation for the WWDC release of new product.
I don't understand why the thread starter is being bashed by some of you.
This looks like a textbook scenario of the 1-month prior to new product releases based on the past few years.
MSKR
Any new hardware will probably be announced at WWDC at this point. Why would Apple waste the PR hoopla by releasing before WWDC?
Originally posted by kim kap sol
Good for you. But it's still a speculation...and pointless one if you're not going to plan around it.
I'm not planning around it. And anyone who is should go into weather forecasting too. I'm just saying that if Power Mac revisions are announced prior to WWDC, people are going to speculate what will be left for WWDC. That's all.
Originally posted by PBG4 Dude
ATI finally announced their long-rumored PCI Express video cards today. Wasn't lack of PCI Express video cards once cited as the reason for G5 2.0 delays?
Any new hardware will probably be announced at WWDC at this point. Why would Apple waste the PR hoopla by releasing before WWDC?
ATI finally announced their PCI Express mobile Radeon, the mobility Radeon X600, today. They announced their desktop PCI Express, the Radeon X800, last month.
(When the PowerMac shipping times went to 7-10 days, the Developer Store was still same day for only the 1.6 model. Apple is offering a promotion for developers on the 1.6 model only, which includes a bigger discount than normal plus purchasing one would not require a Hardward Discount asset. Note also that the Xserve G5 is now 4-6 weeks, down from 5-7 weeks.)
Originally posted by PB
Hardmac has an interesting update on this subject today. On reseller told them that he will have G5s in stock for today. New G5s? Quite improbable. The old ones? I think so. I am not sure if this info could mean anything.
Now Croquer strike again and pretend the new Power Macs will appear this Monday or Tuesday. They expect 3 models, the high end one being available in this summer. Let's wait and see, Tuesday is too close.
Originally posted by PB
Now Croquer strike again and pretend the new Power Macs will appear this Monday or Tuesday. They expect 3 models, the high end one being available in this summer. Let's wait and see, Tuesday is too close.
And June 8th will be 10 days since the shipping changed from "same day" to "7-10 days"...
Also: the June 8th rumour is a Page 2 item, not Page 1.
Originally posted by BRussell
So MacRumors is now saying that PowerMacs will come tomorrow, Tuesday, June 8. If true, that's bad news for those hoping for a big update.
If true, it sounds like a bump to 2.5 or 2.6 at the top end, and better (but still AGP) graphics. Fine with me, since that's all I was expecting at WWDC anyway. And it would make sense that Apple would do this now, since it's not a big enough deal for Steve to announce and remind everyone of his 3GHz promise last year. I'm sure he'd much rather focus on the G5 iMacs.
I can recall several instances of new products coming quietly right AFTER shows, but never in the three weeks prior.
That being said, AirPort Express is exactly the kind of thing I would have expected him to talk up at WWDC, and it isn't even shipping until July, so...
And I hate to even put it into writing, but I'm also in the camp that expects G5 iMacs at WWDC. If we were just getting G4 speed bumps, we would have had them in April alongside the portables. Something's up. I think.
Originally posted by BrunoBruin
I'd love to be proven wrong, as my finger is hovering over the "Buy Now" button, but I can't believe Apple would introduce any new CPUs this close to WWDC. Even if it's just a speed bump, wouldn't Steve want to take five minutes to shroud them in the RDF so we believe they're better than they are?
Jobs doesn't seem to introduce simple speed bumps any more. They're beneath him. He'll do new machines, like the flat panel iMac, or the G5 PowerMac. And assuming they don't meet their 3 Ghz prediction, they probably don't want to draw attention to the speed bump anyway.
I agree with you that we may see a G5 iMac at WWDC. That's something they'll want to draw attention to with media coverage.
Originally posted by BRussell
And assuming they don't meet their 3 Ghz prediction, they probably don't want to draw attention to the speed bump anyway.
Exactly my thoughts. If new Power Macs are to be shown tomorrow, they won't hit the 3 GHz barrier. I don't know if this rumor has any truth, but it is in agreement with the perception that Apple wouldn't keep the 3 GHz promise. I am afraid it is more than just a perception.
Powermac speed bumps. All dual. 2.2, 2.4 and 2.6ghz. Mark my words. Laugh now, then when tomorrow comes, hail the almighty MarkyD, king of predictions!