Originally Posted by dmz
...and here's where you decided to grace us with your presence -- implying that somehow the Rawada massacre had its origins/were partially to blame in/because of Christianity.
We will have to begin again, because you have not read what I wrote.
I will re-state my argument in the simplest terms I can.
I am not claiming that a belief in Christianity provokes genocide.
Please re-read the previous sentence five times. Then we will be able to proceed.
Have you read that sentence five times?
Snap test: what was the sentence I asked you to re-read?
Naughty! Go back and look.
Excellent. "I am not claiming that a belief in Christianity provokes genocide." That's it! Now I can begin.
You have written:
my argument is that Leftist/Atheist Enlightenment Philosphy led to far and away the greatest mass murder in recent history.
And I would like to address this.
Firstly, I must ask you to answer this simple question.
Do you believe, or do you not believe, that people calling themselves 'Christian' were responsible for the greatest acts of genocide in the history of our species?
Because it is a fact of history that they did. People who believed in the God of Abraham, and that his son was born in Nazareth, and that it was all written down in The Bible, destroyed the indigenous populations of the Americas, the Caribbean, the Arctic, and Southern Africa. They started nearly two centuries before the publication of 'Critique of Practical Reason' in 1788 and they ended at the about the time of the births of Josef Stalin, Adolph Hitler, Pol Pot and Chairman Mao.
These things are facts, and are not open to argument.
In the light of this, your fixation on 'recent times' becomes irrelevant.
Since Christian people had 1600 years to perfect their faith and they still committed the worst acts of genocide in the history of our species, it would seem that the terrible crimes of the 'rightist' Hitler and the 'leftist' Stalin were caused not by a lack of spirituality but by a lack of humanity.
Why? Because, clearly, the presence or absence of a belief in god is irrelevant.
Whether these crimes were committed 'in recent history' or in 'the distant past', by Christians, by 'rightists' like Hitler or 'leftists' like Stalin, is irrelevant.
Kant, Marx, Darwin and The Bible are equally as relevant or irrelevant. These books merely changed the justifications for mass murder and the social contexts in which those mass murders took place.
It makes no difference whether you are a Christian or an atheist. A belief in the God of Abraham will not stop you from committing crimes of genocide, as we have seen, again and again, from the 1ate 1500s right to the present day.
And neither will the knowledge of the age of the universe.
The Christian faith of the Hutu and the Tutsi people did not prevent them from killing hundreds of thousands of each other this century. Christianity does not inoculate anyone from mass murder.
So you cannot claim superiority for your club. So you cannot claim that " Leftist/Atheist Enlightenment Philosphy led to far and away the greatest mass murder in recent history."