Originally Posted by Kolchak
Yes, I guess I've never used an iPad. That must explain the whole section you refused to read that said I have owned one for months and have it mostly full. Yes, the iPad is completely redesigned. That must explain why after owning an iPod touch a couple of years ago, using an iPad was instantly familiar. Apple redesigned the UI for some apps. Not the OS. You still have the home screen with the 5x5 matrix of apps and the home button. You still zoom, copy, paste, and all the other functions invoked exactly the same way.
A difference in user experience does not make something a whole different animal. I have a 30" 2560x1600 LCD on my desktop right now next to a 24" LCD. It doesn't make my Mac a completely different machine from my old G4 with a single 17" CRT. They're both still Macs and with a few exceptions, they both run the same applications.
Funny, I wasn't aware that the AppleTV has a multitouch screen or even any screen built in or that I could play Tap Tap Radiation or Angry Birds on it. I'll have to keep an eye out in the App Store for all the tens of thousands of apps that say "Compatible with iPhone, iPod touch, iPad and AppleTV."
1) I clearly noted your a comment that you’ve been using an iPad, which is why I say it doesn’t sound you have been as to think that Apple took the iPod Touch UI, put it in the iPad and called it a day is so absurd that I wonder why we’re even discussing this at all.
2) You point out a 5x5 matrix of apps, but that if for the iPad. The iPhone/Touch have 4x5. They also maintain a single orientation. Do you honestly think this code is built into all iPhone/Touches but just not used? So what happens to that extra row of icons that you infer must be hidden from view since the iPad is nothing more than a giant iPod? Do you think the larger icons with more spacing between them is simply a result or the lower display ppi? You can just look at the two to see that Apple didn’t cram as many icons as they do for the iPhone/Touch even though the surface area allows it.
3) What about Mail, Calendar, Safari, iBooks, Settings, YouTube, etc. You honestly think they didn’t change these apps to make them ideal for the iPad? You’ve either never used an iPad, never used an iPhone/Touch, or are misled by the same app name if you can look at the differences and not see how Apple rewrote them to meet the needs of the device.
4) So they included a zoom feature and copy/paste which looks and acts the same so in your mind that makes the whole of the thing the same with no changes whatsoever? Please! Do you think that copy/paste would need to work any differently? It’s still a digit that needs to interact with a section to highlight and copy.
5) Where in the iPhone/Touch UI are the window overlays, columns, etc. that came with the iPad’s version of iOS? If you honestly think this is nothing more than a giant iPod and that Apple didn’t rewrite the OS to match the HW then you can show me?
6) You still didn’t answer me about why iPhone/Touch apps look so bad on the iPad if Apple didn’t do anything different to build the iPad’s OS.
7) Now you’re saying the AppleTV doesn’t run iOS because it doesn’t use CocoaTouch for the UI? Note that with a multi-touch UI there is no need for CocoaTouch, but that doesn’t mean it’s still not running iOS.
7) Again, for your assessment to be accurate there would have to be no change in the UI to match the change in the I/O, yet we see it from the moment you unlock the device. You may be confusing yourself because both uses Xcode’s CocoaTouch which results in similar looking touch elements, but that doesn’t mean they are the same. Do you think it makes since to make CocoaTouch and CocoaiPad, they both still have multi-toucchscreens for their main I/O.
8) Have you never taken a biology class? Have you concept of how life evolves? WEll, technology does it too, but on a much faster scale. Mac OS X branched off into iOS (aka OS X iPhone/iPhone OS), which became the base of the iPhone, it then did a lateral move to the iPod Touch which is essentially a removal of the cellular code requirements, but the display UI design is identical and apps all the works the same, save for the ones that require cellular/GPS, because of this lateral move. This make these different subspecies or species. The iPad is going up the Taxonomy classification a couple ticks to where you just have iOS, its underpinnings and using CocoaTouch to rewrite the UI for the new display size, aspect ratio, AND rethinking the way this kind of device would differ in use from a pocketable device that can’t easily fit all phalanges from both hands on it at once. They are very different beast and until you realize that you’ll be as wrong as Romans who thought that a giraffe was an assemblage of a camel and leopard, based on superficial appearance*. Again, seeing similar characteristics doesn’t make them the exact same.
* The scienfitc name of giraffe is camelopardalis.