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Parallels Desktop 7 upgrade available now, with Mac OS X Lion hosting, integration

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A new Parallels Desktop 7 adds faster performance and new support for Mac OS X Lion, including Windows integration of apps in Launchpad and windows in Mission Control and the ability to run an instance of Lion within Lion itself.

The new version, which will sell for $79.99 in its standard version, $49.99 as an upgrade to existing Desktop 5 or 6 users, or $39.99 in a student edition, will enter the retail channel September 6.

However, upgrades for existing users became available for immediate purchase and download this afternoon.

Virtual Lion

The new update allows users to share iSight or FaceTime HD cameras between Mac and Windows apps, and adds the ability to run Mac OS X Lion as a guest OS. This summer, Apple relaxed its licensing for Mac OS X to allow Lion users to run up to two instances of the client OS on any Mac.

Previously, Apple only allowed Mac OS X Server to run in virtualization, and required that each virtual instance use a different license.



Beginning with Lion and the availability of Mac OS X through the Mac App Store, Server is now an application package that is hosted on Mac OS X Lion, and neither purchase uses serial numbers.

The Mac OS X Lion end user license agreement now states users may "install, use and run up to two (2) additional copies or instances of the Apple Software within virtual operating system environments on each Mac Computer you own or control that is already running the Apple Software," something virtualization tools can now take advantage of to offer the ability to host Lion as a guest OS.

Additional new features

Among a list of 90 other enhancements, Parallels Desktop 7 can also take advantage of 1 GB of video RAM to accommodate high resolutions and color depth.

Parallels says graphics performance is up to 45 percent faster in 3D operations, and Windows start, stop and resume features are as much as 60 percent faster than previous versions. The company also claims that copy operations within Windows are now 120 percent as fast as its competitor's product.



A new Parallels Mobile app for iOS allows iPad, iPhone and iPod touch users to interact and control their Mac or Windows desktop guest OS instances, remotely (over WiFi or mobile) start or stop apps, play back music and audio remotely, and copy and paste data between their mobile device and Windows programs.
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Looks nice, however I think that I will stick with VirtualBox. For the few times that I need Windows it works just fine, especially for the price!
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Been virtualizing Lion with VMware since Beta Lion days. I gave up on Parallels a long time ago, VMware seems way more solid and less expensive in the long run.
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not sure I need that - running Lion client within a server install or Lion server within a Lion client I can see - or perhaps running Lion VM in Snow Leopard or maybe better Snow Leopard (or older) in a VM under Lion would give access to older software. I suppose for developers or beta testers - or maybe for a server with multiple user each with their owns desktop maybe - guess we'll see - need to check out what else its got. I use mostly Parallels, some VM Fusion and bit of VirtualBox - Parallels has fallen behind a bit now and then but for me it seems to work the best overall - could be in part because I have used every version of it since it was Virtual PC version 2 or 3 or I forget.
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not sure I need that - running Lion client within a server install or Lion server within a Lion client I can see - or perhaps running Lion VM in Snow Leopard or maybe better Snow Leopard (or older) in a VM under Lion would give access to older software. I suppose for developers or beta testers - or maybe for a server with multiple user each with their owns desktop maybe - guess we'll see - need to check out what else its got. I use mostly Parallels, some VM Fusion and bit of VirtualBox - Parallels has fallen behind a bit now and then but for me it seems to work the best overall - could be in part because I have used every version of it since it was Virtual PC version 2 or 3 or I forget.

It's useful to be able to sandbox Lion within Lion for testing stuff without worries of mucking up the real OS. Same reason I run other OSes in VMs, it's great Apple finally allow this.
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I have been happy with version 6 but there is no way I am paying $49 for an upgrade. I bought ver 6 on sale for $39 and saw it even cheaper after I purchased. I will wait patiently for sale.

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They accidentally (or kindly) warned everybody in their upgrade ads. Therefore I never bought version 6. Sure am glad, too! I'll buy it when it is 30 bucks or so.
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I was forced to upgrade to Parallels 6 on July 20th, the date OS X Lion was released. Now I learn that if I would've waited 11 days after Lion was released I could have a version of Parallels optimized to run on Lion! How ridiculous! The free upgrade to Parallels 7 should at least be from July 20th, not August 1st!
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... I gave up on Parallels a long time ago, VMware seems way more solid and less expensive in the long run.

Agreed. When I switched for good in 2008, I tried both out thanks to the product I support only installing on Windows (I use Mac for everything else work related but I need my virtual machines to test and blow up the enterprise app I work with server side). Parallels always seemed sluggish and crash happy compared to VMWare.
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Can we run Parallels within Parallels?
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Can we run Parallels within Parallels?

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Yo Dawg, I heard you like OSing so we put a OS in yo OS so you can OS while you OS.
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I upgraded this morning, seamless and painless.

I'm running Win7 in a vm on a secondary ssd. Boots in 28 seconds.

Good stuff, yup yup.
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I hate how Parallels comes out with a new "major update" every week.
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Their updates are a bit too fast for me too. I got ver 6 for very cheap but with the lion update my ubuntu installs are borked. I was hoping for a patch but I bet they'd rather sell me a nice shiny shrink-wrapped box instead.
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Been virtualizing Lion with VMware since Beta Lion days. I gave up on Parallels a long time ago, VMware seems way more solid and less expensive in the long run.

Been using parallels. These apps leap frog each other every other release, its almost as though they have a secret deal about when to release features.

Am sticking to 6 for now.
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Using parallels for a couple of months and have been happy with it. I do some pretty extensive windows development and haven't had a crash yet.

This upgrade sounds good but even apple didn't charge this much for lion upgrade. WTH?
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I'm really bummed it's not in the Mac App Store. Listen up developers, sell your stuff both on your website and in the app store. Many of us get app store credit and will buy stuff there that we otherwise wouldn't. Plus, no funky serial or DRM issues...it just works for us.
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Been virtualizing Lion with VMware since Beta Lion days. I gave up on Parallels a long time ago, VMware seems way more solid and less expensive in the long run.


I really like Parallels commercial products. Parallels Plesk Panel on the Linux servers is really a fantastic product. I used the Mac Desktop version a few years ago with Vista and it was pretty sluggish. I have several Windows machines available and I'm not space constrained either so I don't need to run any vitalization on my Macs. I haven't tried VMware.

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I hate how Parallels comes out with a new "major update" every week.

It's called progress and it's only every year. It's streaks ahead of VMWare and VirtualBox doesn't even come close to Parallels.

Parallels is great and I will definitely be upgrading to this version as I have done for every version since 2 because for what I use it for it is far superior to anything else on the market.

Interesting that they never released a beta.
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Originally Posted by lilgto64 View Post

Parallels has fallen behind a bit now and then but for me it seems to work the best overall - could be in part because I have used every version of it since it was Virtual PC version 2 or 3 or I forget.

Microsoft purchased Connectix so Parallels was never Virtual PC.
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I really like Parallels commercial products. Parallels Plesk Panel on the Linux servers is really a fantastic product. I used the Mac Desktop version a few years ago with Vista and it was pretty sluggish. I have several Windows machines available and I'm not space constrained either so I don't need to run any vitalization on my Macs. I haven't tried VMware.

Plesk is nice I agree. I actually do run Parallels and VMware both, simply so I am up on both products for support but for my on use I prefer VMWare to be honest.

One reason I like to run Windows in a VM is so I can simply have virgin copies to fire up every few weeks. Once set up and licensed with MS they can be moved, copied and deleted at will and it takes only a few minutes to replace one. Dealing with an actual PC is way more complex and time consuming. You can even move a VM to another Mac and the MS license remains intact which is great when replacing Macs with new ones.
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post #23 of 43
Now maybe VMWare. Will support Lion in Lion. I've been waiting to set up a Lion Client and Server SandBox.
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Upgrade is also available for owners of version 4.

Per NovaDevelopment "Owners of Parallels Desktop 4 for Mac are normally required to purchase a full version of Parallels Desktop 7 for Mac to upgrade. But this offer makes Parallels Desktop 7 for Mac available for only $49. That's over 35% off your normal upgrade price."
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It's called progress and it's only every year. It's streaks ahead of VMWare and VirtualBox doesn't even come close to Parallels.

Parallels is great and I will definitely be upgrading to this version as I have done for every version since 2 because for what I use it for it is far superior to anything else on the market.

To each their own I guess...

I used Parallels through versions 1 and 2 since VMWare didn't have anything for Mac at that time, and just found it to be poor quality. During that time, one of my VMs got corrupted (wouldn't boot) and was unrepairable. Thankfully I didn't lose anything important. Also, direct sharing of files between the VM and Mac OS didn't work at all (I had to resort to using SMB file sharing across my network -- the problem with that solution being that it doesn't work when connected to a VPN). Lastly, the VoIP software I was using (Windows-only) had choppy audio with my USB headset under Parallels.

I tried contacting their customer support about my issues, but they were less than helpful.

Prior to that, I had been using VMWare on Linux since 1999 to do cross-platform software development and testing and it was always rock solid. After VMWare Fusion came out and I found it had the same level of quality as VMWare Workstation (plus it solved both the file sharing and USB headset problems), I never looked back.
 
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What are the reasons people would decide to operate Lion virtually inside an already Lion OS?
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What are the reasons people would decide to operate Lion virtually inside an already Lion OS?

As a software developer, it's nice to be able to install developer preview versions of Mac OS X (or other software) without jeopardizing your main system. Or for testing software on a number of different Mac OS X point releases.
 
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To each their own I guess...

I used Parallels through versions 1 and 2 since VMWare didn't have anything for Mac at that time, and just found it to be poor quality. During that time, one of my VMs got corrupted (wouldn't boot) and was unrepairable. Thankfully I didn't lose anything important. Also, direct sharing of files between the VM and Mac OS didn't work at all (I had to resort to using SMB file sharing across my network -- the problem with that solution being that it doesn't work when connected to a VPN). Lastly, the VoIP software I was using (Windows-only) had choppy audio with my USB headset under Parallels.

I tried contacting their customer support about my issues, but they were less than helpful.

Prior to that, I had been using VMWare on Linux since 1999 to do cross-platform software development and testing and it was always rock solid. After VMWare Fusion came out and I found it had the same level of quality as VMWare Workstation (plus it solved both the file sharing and USB headset problems), I never looked back.

I don't want to sound like a douche here but are you serriously basing your preferences on versions that are over five years ago? VMWare sucked when it first came to the Mac also and basically is now so long in the tooth it's not even worth it anymore.

In terms of features and speed Parallels has slaughtered VMWare from version 5 and now we're up to version 7 whereas VMWare is version 3 still.

Seriously give Parallels another go, import your VMWare machine and see a world of difference. There are things I do with Parallels that VMWare just struggles to do namely with USB devices.
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I bought Parallels couple of years back, but I have been mainly using VirtualBox and have been happy with it for what I want to do. BTW, it's free! I has been a little slow under Lion, but I am waiting for update that is certified under Lion
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Looks nice, however I think that I will stick with VirtualBox. For the few times that I need Windows it works just fine, especially for the price!

amazes me how much you get for 'free' with virtualbox. great product.
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Microsoft purchased Connectix so Parallels was never Virtual PC.

yes I know there was a break there - but Parallels was the first (wasn't it) to come out after MS killed VPC for Mac - and it is the most similar in user experience (at least in my experience) to Virtual PC.

so while it may have looked like I was suggesting that Parallels is the current version of what used to be Virtual PC - what I was really getting at is that I have been using Virtualization software for a long time - both on Mac OS and others with numerous different guest OS installs from many vendors.
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What are the reasons people would decide to operate Lion virtually inside an already Lion OS?

Development of low-level utilities and drivers that might muck up the OS, for one.
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It's useful to be able to sandbox Lion within Lion for testing stuff without worries of mucking up the real OS. Same reason I run other OSes in VMs, it's great Apple finally allow this.

Yes. If you download a new app from the Internet, and not sure if safe or not, run it in your Lion VM for a while.

I wonder when VMware will be updated. That is my weapon of choice.
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I don't want to sound like a douche here but are you serriously basing your preferences on versions that are over five years ago? VMWare sucked when it first came to the Mac also and basically is now so long in the tooth it's not even worth it anymore.

In terms of features and speed Parallels has slaughtered VMWare from version 5 and now we're up to version 7 whereas VMWare is version 3 still.

Seriously give Parallels another go, import your VMWare machine and see a world of difference. There are things I do with Parallels that VMWare just struggles to do namely with USB devices.

Seriously, you're trying to argue that Parallels is better on the basis of version numbers? You must be in marketing.

By that logic, OpenSSL (the most widely used SSL implementation in the world) isn't worth a look because it just reached version 1.0 recently.

I honestly think that Parallels changes major versions so much just so that they can rake in more and more upgrade fees from users. They're fast becoming the Adobe of the VM business. I paid for version 1 -- hated it compared with my previous experience with VMWare. Then paid for the first upgrade thinking that it would fix my problems, and it didn't. Fool me once...

I have VMWare Fusion running for my entire workday with no hiccups. I've been running it that way since it was released. I'm probably around 1000 full workdays of usage with nare a crash or a hiccup. Perhaps it may not match Parallels' performance for 3D gaming, but I could care less about that. What I care about is rock solid functionality. Why would I change when there's absolutely nothing wrong with my VMWare setup (and never has been)? I'll take stability over speed any day.

Honestly, I have no shares in VMWare and I don't work for them, I've just been a big fan of their products ever since the very first release of VMWare Workstation for Linux. I respect companies that take the time to release rock solid products and don't get caught up in fast release schedules and marketing hype.
 
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yes I know there was a break there - but Parallels was the first (wasn't it) to come out after MS killed VPC for Mac - and it is the most similar in user experience (at least in my experience) to Virtual PC.

Virtual PC was pretty much unusable for anything but simple tasks. The reason is because it was emulating an Intel CPU on a PowerPC (before Apple made the switch to Intel). Which is far slower than emulating Intel on Intel.

Parallels was the first to market with an Intel on Intel VM for Mac OS X after Apple made the switch. VMWare had already been doing this for years on Windows and Linux, but didn't have a Mac OS X offering for a year or so after the switch. Which is where Parallels was able to gain traction in the Mac community. Parallels doesn't share any lineage with Virtual PC afaik.

So yeah, all the same idea (hardware virtualization), but different products.
 
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Could I run Snow Leopard (and therefore Rosetta apps) with a Mac VM in Parallels??
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I was forced to upgrade to Parallels 6 on July 20th, the date OS X Lion was released. Now I learn that if I would've waited 11 days after Lion was released I could have a version of Parallels optimized to run on Lion! How ridiculous! The free upgrade to Parallels 7 should at least be from July 20th, not August 1st!

They are a ripoff company. I was forced to upgrade as well to 6 on 7/25 in order for the product to work with Lion. How convenient of them to not tell me that by waiting less than a week I'd be entitled to a free upgrade.

I will NOT be paying for any more Parallels. I will switch to VMware first.

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Could I run Snow Leopard (and therefore Rosetta apps) with a Mac VM in Parallels??

Physically, probably. I would imagine it's possible.

You just can't virtualize Snow Leopard (client) legally. Server, yes, but not client.

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Seriously, you're trying to argue that Parallels is better on the basis of version numbers? You must be in marketing.

Are you kidding me? Did you actually read my post? NO YOU DID NOT.

Most of the reasons I see people "preferring" VMWare over Parallels is because of their experiences with old versions. They've never tried the new versions.

I've tried them all including VirtualBox and I like them all but feature for feature, pound for pound Parallels comes out on top and has stayed there since version 5. Sure there are some issues but these are so minuscule and I find more issues with VMWare than I ever have with Parallels.

I use Parallels to use applications that don't exist on the Mac, I need IE for a manky call system that we use at work, and I use Parallels to Ghost image Windows machines because CrossOver doesn't work. I cannot do the Ghost thing in VMWare because it's USB support isn't that flash.

I never once argued by numbers but then if you'd actually have read my post instead of glancing at it you'd have seen that.



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I honestly think that Parallels changes major versions so much just so that they can rake in more and more upgrade fees from users. They're fast becoming the Adobe of the VM business. I paid for version 1 -- hated it compared with my previous experience with VMWare. Then paid for the first upgrade thinking that it would fix my problems, and it didn't. Fool me once...

I have VMWare Fusion running for my entire workday with no hiccups. I've been running it that way since it was released. I'm probably around 1000 full workdays of usage with nare a crash or a hiccup. Perhaps it may not match Parallels' performance for 3D gaming, but I could care less about that. What I care about is rock solid functionality. Why would I change when there's absolutely nothing wrong with my VMWare setup (and never has been)? I'll take stability over speed any day.

Honestly, I have no shares in VMWare and I don't work for them, I've just been a big fan of their products ever since the very first release of VMWare Workstation for Linux. I respect companies that take the time to release rock solid products and don't get caught up in fast release schedules and marketing hype.

The new versions actually contain NEW features or better versions of features that they had previously created.

For example Coherence has got stronger and stronger every version although Crystal Mode is actually a pain but that can be turned off. Hardware support is what I need and VMWare does not have that.

Mac OS X is not even thought of in VMWare and it barely runs Server but now with this version 7 of Parallels we get not only Server which ran so well we also get desktop which is great for those of us who do a lot of testing.

Yes your needs may be more simplistic and VMWare covers that but you can't claim a title is better than another simply because it meets YOUR needs and because of an experience with an old version. You have to look at the overall picture. Parallels has more development behind it, supports more features of Mac OS X and Intel than VMWare, supports VMWare images, and has far superior hardware interaction all for the same price as VMWare.

Parallels is a far better product and it's not just me that is saying it all the reviews seem to be pointing that way as well.
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Virtual PC was pretty much unusable for anything but simple tasks. The reason is because it was emulating an Intel CPU on a PowerPC (before Apple made the switch to Intel). Which is far slower than emulating Intel on Intel.

Parallels was the first to market with an Intel on Intel VM for Mac OS X after Apple made the switch. VMWare had already been doing this for years on Windows and Linux, but didn't have a Mac OS X offering for a year or so after the switch. Which is where Parallels was able to gain traction in the Mac community. Parallels doesn't share any lineage with Virtual PC afaik.

So yeah, all the same idea (hardware virtualization), but different products.

That being said I did once setup a PXE boot server with GhostCast Server to deploy Windows to a number of machines for customers when the main group decided they needed their PC back. I did it on a G4 iBook and ironically it was only 7 minutes slower doing it this way that it was on the actual PC.

Parallels would be so fast it's not funny.
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