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post #1 of 34
12/17/01 at 5:52am
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According to this thread on MacCentral, the reason for the delay in opening centrally-located Apple Stores in New York, LA, Chicago, and perhaps elsewhere is because Apple will soon announce "megastores" in select locations which will be much bigger than normal.

This might explain the delay in these centrally located stores opening, especially since (in the case of Chicago and New York) the properties were rented long ago, and signs of work being done on them have been visible for months, yet there's been no word about them opening any time soon. Not only that, but the two locations we know of for the NY and Chicago stores (SoHo's old Restoration Hardware for the first; an old super-sized Gap on the Magnificent Mile for the latter) are both considerably larger than any of the stores open so far.

Supposedly, the "megastores" will be announced at MWSF. (is there anything that ISN'T rumored to be announced at MWSF?) I certainly hope this is true . . .
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post #2 of 34
12/17/01 at 5:57am
If I'm not mistaken, the Soho Restoration Hardware was a multistory storefront. Pretty interesting rumor...

There's no Apple Store in San Francisco either, but I can see why one wouldn't be planned...SF is a rather small core city with serious transportation issues.
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post #3 of 34
12/17/01 at 6:43am
Interesting concept. What more would the store have, though? The Apple Stores that I've been to generally have the latest software, plenty of computers to use, good demos, and tons of helpful salespeople.

What more could they add to an Apple Store that would make it a MegaStore?
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post #4 of 34
12/17/01 at 8:23am
More software, more accessories. At this point, Apple offers 5 camcorders, 10 digital cameras, 5 PDAs, 5 music players (not including iPod,) a handful of printers, a handful of scanners, etc.

It's also not clear that they are even selling this items in current stores. For example, they sell those headphones found on some of the demo Macs.

I can also see a large books section and maybe a real service counter.

Each station would be larger too. The digital photos section would have a printer, for example. The iPod gets its own station with dedicated computers...instead of having iPods placed randomly in the store.

Heck, they might even put a tiny classroom in there.

[ 12-17-2001: Message edited by: Eugene ]</p>
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post #5 of 34
12/17/01 at 10:09am
I went by the Apple Store Chicago location (rumored) this weekend and it looked like NOTHING was happening in there. In fact they even took down the butcher paper on the windows and replaced it with more permanent "Magnificent Mile" window paper that the put on stores that will be vacant for a long time. It's been empty for over a year and I can't see Apple paying the very high rent and not opening a store for X-mass 2001.
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post #6 of 34
12/17/01 at 10:18am
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Okay this burns me up. It's not "Miracle Mile"! It's "Magnificent Mile"! I'm so sick of tourist getting that wrong. I have to wait while some Hoosier asks the driver if the bus I'm on goes to the "Miracle Mile".

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[ 12-17-2001: Message edited by: Scott H. ]</p>
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post #7 of 34
12/17/01 at 3:23pm
What about PHILADELPHIA, DAMMIT!!!!!!!!

I want one now!!!!!!!

Right freakin now!!!!!
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post #8 of 34
12/17/01 at 5:06pm
[quote]What about PHILADELPHIA, DAMMIT!!!!!!!!

I want one now!!!!!!!

Right freakin now!!!!! <hr></blockquote>

Actually, I think they're going to open more stores in MA and NH, as well as Southern California first.

Hey, those are the two largest Mac markets you know!

To rub it in, I had one of my local malls (Rockingham Park) get an Apple Store two weeks ago, and an Apple store in Cambridge, MA (CambridgeSide)last Saturday. We also have the Peabody, MA Apple Store (Northshore) and that just happens to be right on my way to work.
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post #9 of 34
12/17/01 at 5:28pm
Up here in NY we've got the Palisades, Tices Corner, another one pretty close to Tices coming soon and then the NYC SoHo store. Thats a lot in a small area.

I hope to be moving to Philly pretty soon so I also hope they put one down there. King of Prussia springs to mind as a great location.
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post #10 of 34
12/17/01 at 5:31pm
[quote]Originally posted by Willoughby:
<strong>Up here in NY we've got the Palisades, Tices Corner, another one pretty close to Tices coming soon and then the NYC SoHo store. Thats a lot in a small area.
</strong><hr></blockquote>

Where near Tice's is one coming soon?
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post #11 of 34
12/17/01 at 6:34pm
[quote]Originally posted by EmAn:
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Where near Tice's is one coming soon?</strong><hr></blockquote>

I know its near Springfield NJ....let me look it up and I'll let you know
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post #12 of 34
12/17/01 at 6:38pm
From Apple's job page (note: this link will probably expire)

<a href="https://jobs.apple.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Employment.woa/30/wo/rt5MbEqi08E63mYN2EDy4QgfKtD/4.2.22.9.2.0.1.3" target="_blank">https://jobs.apple.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Employment.woa/30/wo/rt5MbEqi08E63mYN2EDy4QgfKtD/4.2.22.9.2.0.1.3</a>

Short Hills NJ
32 miles south of Woodcliff Lake, NJ (Tice's)

Isn't Woodcliff like 32 miles south of Palisades?
I think this is crazy considering they don't have one in the Philly area yet.
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post #13 of 34
12/17/01 at 6:43pm
[quote]Originally posted by Willoughby:
<strong>Up here in NY we've got the Palisades, Tices Corner, another one pretty close to Tices coming soon and then the NYC SoHo store. Thats a lot in a small area.

I hope to be moving to Philly pretty soon so I also hope they put one down there. King of Prussia springs to mind as a great location.</strong><hr></blockquote>

that's no where near a lot in a small area.

Palisades is quite a trip from the city. Tice's is as well.

considering there is only 1 store being planned for the metro area the store must be going to be huge
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post #14 of 34
12/17/01 at 7:01pm
They should have one in C-Town yo!
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post #15 of 34
12/17/01 at 7:11pm
[quote]Originally posted by applenut:
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Palisades is quite a trip from the city. Tice's is as well.
</strong><hr></blockquote>

Palisades is a 35-45 min trip from the city and Tice's is a little more than that. That's quite a trip?
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post #16 of 34
12/17/01 at 7:25pm
[quote]Originally posted by EmAn:
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Palisades is a 35-45 min trip from the city and Tice's is a little more than that. That's quite a trip?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Coming from where?

north bronx?

did you forget about Brooklyn, Staten Island, and Manhatten?
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post #17 of 34
12/17/01 at 7:26pm
[quote]Originally posted by EmAn:
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Palisades is a 35-45 min trip from the city and Tice's is a little more than that. That's quite a trip?</strong><hr></blockquote>

and I don't think the prospect of having to drive an hour to the nearest apple store is going to improve market share at all.
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post #18 of 34
12/17/01 at 7:32pm
[quote]Originally posted by applenut:
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Coming from where?

north bronx?

did you forget about Brooklyn, Staten Island, and Manhatten?</strong><hr></blockquote>

I lived in Whitestone when I lived in Queens and it took 40 min at most (with no traffic) to get to Palisades. I've gotten there in just over a half hour. The only places in NYC that it'll take longer to get to is Brooklyn, Staten Island and some parts of Manhattan.

[ 12-17-2001: Message edited by: EmAn ]</p>
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post #19 of 34
12/17/01 at 7:33pm
[quote]Originally posted by applenut:
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and I don't think the prospect of having to drive an hour to the nearest apple store is going to improve market share at all.</strong><hr></blockquote>

You're absolutely right about that. That's why Apple will keep on opening more.
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post #20 of 34
12/17/01 at 8:37pm
[quote]and I don't think the prospect of having to drive an hour to the nearest apple store is going to improve market share at all.<hr></blockquote>

Hey cry me a river buddy. Come talk to me when I live less than 10 hours from one.
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post #21 of 34
12/18/01 at 7:01am
[quote]Originally posted by poor taylor:
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Hey cry me a river buddy. Come talk to me when I live less than 10 hours from one. </strong><hr></blockquote>

That is EXACTLY my point. Palisades, Tices and Short Hills ARE the Metro NY area. Look at any map, any weather any traffic report. These areas are all included as the NY Metro Area. Having 4 stores in one metro area is great but when other areas don't have any at all it makes me wonder.

I live in Westchester County and all of these stores are very easy for me to reach. Hop a train to NYC, take a quick ride over the Tappen Zee, hit the GW to the Parkway. No problem.


Now if you live in Philly Metro area you have Zero(0) stores. This includes South Jersey, Philly, Philly suburbs and even parts of Delaware. This is a huge market and the closest Apple store is over an hour and a half away and thats only if you live in NJ.

Philly is the 4th largest market. As far as Tech companies go its 7th. Right behind NY which is 6th. Philly should have at least 2 stores by now.


edit: spelling

[ 12-18-2001: Message edited by: Willoughby ]</p>
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post #22 of 34
12/18/01 at 8:25am
[quote]Philly is the 4th largest market. As far as Tech companies go its 7th. Right behind NY which is 6th. Philly should have at least 2 stores by now. <hr></blockquote>

If this is true, than the Boston area should be getting more stores!
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post #23 of 34
12/18/01 at 8:58am
[quote]Originally posted by Fran441:
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If this is true, than the Boston area should be getting more stores! </strong><hr></blockquote>


Boston is a smaller market, but as far as Tech goes, its like number 2. So yeah, you guys should have like 8 stores by now....but thats only going by my logic which is probably ridiculously flawed.


I'm sure Apple has spent lots of mula researching the areas for their stores.
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post #24 of 34
12/18/01 at 11:08am
Why are both NJ Apple stores in North Jersey? We need one in central New Jersey too!

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post #25 of 34
12/18/01 at 11:24am
[quote]Originally posted by imacSE:
<strong>Why are both NJ Apple stores in North Jersey? We need one in central New Jersey too! </strong><hr></blockquote>

Short Hills is Central NJ
Well, it all depends on your perspective. I'm sure people in Atlantic City consider it North Jersey.
I heard someone in Asbury Park say to a friend on a cell phone "I'm down in South Jersey today" HELLO!?

Anything below Trenton is South Jersey to me.
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post #26 of 34
12/18/01 at 1:02pm
[quote]Originally posted by Willoughby:
<strong>

That is EXACTLY my point. Palisades, Tices and Short Hills ARE the Metro NY area. Look at any map, any weather any traffic report. These areas are all included as the NY Metro Area. Having 4 stores in one metro area is great but when other areas don't have any at all it makes me wonder.

I live in Westchester County and all of these stores are very easy for me to reach. Hop a train to NYC, take a quick ride over the Tappen Zee, hit the GW to the Parkway. No problem.

</strong><hr></blockquote>

And it looks like more are coming to the area. If you look on the job opportunities page there's a listing for White Plains (I guess Westchester Mall).
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post #27 of 34
12/18/01 at 5:38pm
[quote]Originally posted by Willoughby:
<strong>

That is EXACTLY my point. Palisades, Tices and Short Hills ARE the Metro NY area. Look at any map, any weather any traffic report. These areas are all included as the NY Metro Area. Having 4 stores in one metro area is great but when other areas don't have any at all it makes me wonder.

I live in Westchester County and all of these stores are very easy for me to reach. Hop a train to NYC, take a quick ride over the Tappen Zee, hit the GW to the Parkway. No problem.


Now if you live in Philly Metro area you have Zero(0) stores. This includes South Jersey, Philly, Philly suburbs and even parts of Delaware. This is a huge market and the closest Apple store is over an hour and a half away and thats only if you live in NJ.

Philly is the 4th largest market. As far as Tech companies go its 7th. Right behind NY which is 6th. Philly should have at least 2 stores by now.


edit: spelling

[ 12-18-2001: Message edited by: Willoughby ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

you're referring to weather maps now?

CH 4 shows Hartford and Scranton pennsylvania in their "tristate maps". is that metro?

give me a break. when people start arguing that NYC is getting too many Apple stores and there is only one opening within the city boundaries someone is smoking some good stuff.

[quote]I lived in Whitestone when I lived in Queens and it took 40 min at most (with no traffic) to get to Palisades. I've gotten there in just over a half hour. The only places in NYC that it'll take longer to get to is Brooklyn, Staten Island and some parts of Manhattan.<hr></blockquote>

no traffic? when does that happen? 4 in the morning? it takes me 40 minutes to get to the Plalisades mall with little traffic. and I live in throgs neck right off 95.

It takes me an hour sometimes to get to parts of brooklyn. 40 minutes to lower manhatten in traffic. 2 hour drives are good?

[quote]And it looks like more are coming to the area. If you look on the job opportunities page there's a listing for White Plains (I guess Westchester Mall).<hr></blockquote>

great news. I was waiting for them to put one there. fits their "image" perfectly.


BTW, a Philly store is coming. it just hasn't been announced yet. I think they are waiting for space in the King of prussia mall
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post #28 of 34
12/18/01 at 5:48pm
[quote]Boston is a smaller market<hr></blockquote>

No. The Metro Boston area is Apple's second largest market, not just second largest in technology. The 128 belt houses a lot of Mac users.
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post #29 of 34
12/18/01 at 6:10pm
[quote]Orginally posted by applenut:
no traffic? when does that happen? 4 in the morning? it takes me 40 minutes to get to the Plalisades mall with little traffic. and I live in throgs neck right off 95.<hr></blockquote>

Well I guess it depends on which way you go. Because when I got there in 35 minutes it was on a Saturday afternoon. I guess it depends on how you go. Which way do you go? Cross Bronx to Deagan/87? Because I could see how that took long. Whenever I went from NYC we usually took the Bronx River Pkwy to the Sprain Pkwy to 287.

[ 12-18-2001: Message edited by: EmAn ]</p>
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12/18/01 at 6:21pm
[quote]Originally posted by EmAn:
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And it looks like more are coming to the area. If you look on the job opportunities page there's a listing for White Plains (I guess Westchester Mall).</strong><hr></blockquote>

I don't see this on the job listings page. When I went to retail and click on "jobs" I saw a listing for Paramus as well......upon closer inspection......its for the CompUSA Apple rep position. This is a job in CompUSA NOT the Apple store.

Are you sure you didn't see that position for White Plains? Which has a compusa by the way. (besides, most of the job listings have the malls name as well as the town)

One in White Plains, Nyack and Woodcliff Lake...they're just way to close.

I see Applenuts point, they need more in the actual CITY.
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post #31 of 34
12/18/01 at 6:30pm
[quote]Originally posted by Willoughby:
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I don't see this on the job listings page. When I went to retail and click on "jobs" I saw a listing for Paramus as well......upon closer inspection......its for the CompUSA Apple rep position. This is a job in CompUSA NOT the Apple store.

Are you sure you didn't see that position for White Plains? Which has a compusa by the way. (besides, most of the job listings have the malls name as well as the town)

One in White Plains, Nyack and Woodcliff Lake...they're just way to close.

I see Applenuts point, they need more in the actual CITY.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Maybe it was a job at CompUSA... all I know is that I saw White Plains.

I also think applenut is right about more should be in the city. I think eventually there will be, it'll just take some time.
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post #32 of 34
12/18/01 at 6:46pm
Are you listening Apple? I want one at the King of Prussia Mall!!!!


PHILLY, DAMMIT!!!!!!
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post #33 of 34
12/22/01 at 2:52pm
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Are you listening Apple? I want one at the King of Prussia Mall!!!!


PHILLY, DAMMIT!!!!!!
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post #34 of 34
12/22/01 at 4:58pm
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Why do people do this every time a thread about Apple store locations comes up?

They're coming, folks. It just takes time. Apple hit its mark of 25 stores opened by the end of 2001 (and beat it by two), and they said there's more to come in 2002. Given that they delivered on the first promise, I think it's reasonable to expect them to deliver on the second.

Philadelphia's way too big a market to be ignored. Just relax. At least you and I aren't one of the people that are 600+ miles away from the nearest store (to say nothing of people outside the US).
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