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My Apple ID is still a .Mac account but now I also have a .icloud as well which can get confusing at times. I am able to log in to various Apple services with either one and from what I understand they are somehow the same account. I wish I could just retire the .mac one and only have the iCloud one as my Apple ID. 

 

As others have said, just stop using it. Your original mac.com and me.com addys are just aliases for your iCloud.com account. They are the same account.

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As others have said, just stop using it. Your original mac.com and me.com addys are just aliases for your iCloud.com account. They are the same account.

You can't - it's not that simple. Many places online do not recognize @mac.com as a valid email address. I want to use my @ mac.com. Not the others. Also I refuse to lose my purchase history so I have to have 2 Apple aids- one for ITunes and one for the cloud. It just doesn't make sense that you can't merge iTunes history into an Apple ID
 
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You can't - it's not that simple. Many places online do not recognize @mac.com as a valid email address. I want to use my @ mac.com. Not the others. Also I refuse to lose my purchase history so I have to have 2 Apple aids- one for ITunes and one for the cloud. It just doesn't make sense that you can't merge iTunes history into an Apple ID

 

You can - it was ridiculously simple. My mac.com address is still active and very much a valid email address. As is my me.com address. They are just aliases for my .iCloud.com account. They are all "merged" as one Apple ID. As such, I don't lose any purchase history.

 

In order to get this seamless merging of .mac and .me into your .iCloud account, you had to follow Apple's instructions to "move" from one service to the next, and of course, not allow either your .mac or MobileMe service to lapse prior to the transition to the next service. If it lapsed, or if you did not follow instructions to migrate from the old account and instead created a new account (with perhaps the same handle), it would not be merged, and you would end up creating new Apple ID instead. If your old .mac or .me email addresses are no longer valid for receiving mail, then it means you did not follow the instructions to "move" them to iCloud, and consequently, any online services that query Apple's SMTP servers (Apple still owns the mac.com and me.com domains) would get an error code back when they try to verify your .mac or .me email address.

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post #124 of 186
I've never had an issue with my me.com address.

I also changed my iTunes email address, when I deleted my Google account.

It was no big deal, just changed the log ins when an error popped up across different devices,
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post #125 of 186

Why can't they just do a $99 package that includes 1Tb of cloud and bring iWeb back so you can control what others see i.e. family page for photos tagged family, friends page etc. Or even better yet... I would pay $200 a year for unlimited* family storage  (which could be set as 5 devices worth of iPhoto, iTunes and Time Machine and 1 Tb of personal data ) 

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I think they should give you 10 gigs free, but whatever.  

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No update yet for iTunes Match. Grrr. The space available for music is way too small.
post #128 of 186
For everyone complaining about the free storage amount and the cost compared to google, you're sadly misguided.

Firstly, they're clearly competing with Dropbox rather than Google. They've significantly undercut Dropboxs pricing (even adding in the free gigs most average people would end up with). I appears Apples strategy is to try to keep people in the ecosystem, rather than build a business on what they've stated was and they apparently consider an ancillary service - not a product. It's simply a way to keep people from defecting to Dropbox as a means of file storage for their devices. For the average consumer (not prosumer), If it's built in and works simply, they'll just use it.

Comparing it to google is far off the mark. Google Drive, though cheap as hell, is far too slow sync wise for multiple large files and is very wonky syncing things like docx files, particularly if you are using a mac. I use the 1T for my media files (movies, tv shows, music, non-iphoto pictures) as inexpensive backup but it's been unreliable, excruciatingly slow to upload changes or new files (download not horrible but not nearly what I got from Dropbox) and I've had to go online to the Google Drive site to delete files that I deleted from my comp (they were retained on the site) because it didn't sync the delete. In fact it created an empty folder along with a folder with the files in it. Further, Google Drive horribly handles file deletion by making you empty the trash online only rather than letting you do so locally, and it counts your trash as part of the total memory, so if you don't regularly empty the trash you will run out of memory (this can be really a pain when you are moving files around or deleting files and replacing them with another set of files.

I figure (and hope with crossed fingers) iCloud Drive will be far faster in uploading and have better local file handling. If so, when 1T pricing is available I'll likely have to pay the up charge, unless it's ridiculous. Google refuses to improve their issues thus far and they are discussed extensively on their own discussion threads. The only answer you get is "have you checked your internet connection".
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For everyone complaining about the free storage amount and the cost compared to google, you're sadly misguided.

Firstly, they're clearly competing with Dropbox rather than Google. They've significantly undercut Dropboxs pricing (even adding in the free gigs most average people would end up with). I appears Apples strategy is to try to keep people in the ecosystem, rather than build a business on what they've stated was and they apparently consider an ancillary service - not a product. It's simply a way to keep people from defecting to Dropbox as a means of file storage for their devices. For the average consumer (not prosumer), If it's built in and works simply, they'll just use it.

Comparing it to google is far off the mark. Google Drive, though cheap as hell, is far too slow sync wise for multiple large files and is very wonky syncing things like docx files, particularly if you are using a mac. I use the 1T for my media files (movies, tv shows, music, non-iphoto pictures) as inexpensive backup but it's been unreliable, excruciatingly slow to upload changes or new files (download not horrible but not nearly what I got from Dropbox) and I've had to go online to the Google Drive site to delete files that I deleted from my comp (they were retained on the site) because it didn't sync the delete. In fact it created an empty folder along with a folder with the files in it. Further, Google Drive horribly handles file deletion by making you empty the trash online only rather than letting you do so locally, and it counts your trash as part of the total memory, so if you don't regularly empty the trash you will run out of memory (this can be really a pain when you are moving files around or deleting files and replacing them with another set of files.

I figure (and hope with crossed fingers) iCloud Drive will be far faster in uploading and have better local file handling. If so, when 1T pricing is available I'll likely have to pay the up charge, unless it's ridiculous. Google refuses to improve their issues thus far and they are discussed extensively on their own discussion threads. The only answer you get is "have you checked your internet connection".

I think it really depends on where you live, in Switzerland I can upload a 2GB file to Google Drive in about 10 minutes, iCloud takes about 30 minutes for a 400MB file. Apples web services in general have always been very slow where I live, I have complained to both Apple and Swisscom about this but nothing has been done thus far. It's a little misconcerning when you have a 1Gbs fiber line. The fastest cloud storage for me in Switzerland is OneDrive though but that has a lot to do with how close Microsofts data center is to me, just 10 miles away from where I live. Google's Datacenter is also really close by, residing in Zurich, just 20 miles away, Apples is all the way in Ireland. Just do a trace route on Google Drive to see how far and how many routers you have to go through before your actually hitting their servers, it might surprise you. For OneDrive it literally just goes from Microsoft through my ISP Swisscom to me, that's it. What I'm saying is it might be a good idea to do some research before you decide on any cloud storage solution. Where you might think iCloud is the fastest, just might not be the case because of your location and of course this also applies to Google Drive and OneNote.
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Apples web services in general have always been very slow where I live, I have complained to both Apple and Swisscom about this but nothing has been done thus far. It's a little misconcerning when you have a 1Gbs fiber line […] Microsofts data center is to me, just 10 miles away from where I live. Google's Datacenter is also really close by, residing in Zurich, just 20 miles away, Apples is all the way in Ireland.

You know this and yet you've complained to Apple and your ISP about the speed? 1oyvey.gif

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post #131 of 186
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You know this and yet you've complained to Apple and your ISP about the speed? 1oyvey.gif

Are you serious, of course I should still complain, I didn't necessarily blame Apple, I also contacted my ISP, so yes even though I know that the server is located in Ireland, I think I should still get better than 150K for the upload speed. An absolutely ridiculous comment, anything remotely negative said about Apple and you automatically go on the defense.
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post #132 of 186
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Are you serious, of course I should still complain, I didn't necessarily blame Apple, I also contacted my ISP, so yes even though I know that the server is located in Ireland, I think I should still get better than 150K for the upload speed. Absolutely ridiculous comment, anything remotely negative said about Apple and you automatically go on the defense.

So you bitch and moan to the last mile provider for something that they not only have no control over but with admitted proof that your connection is solid. Ridiculous indeed.

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So you bitch and moan to the last mile provider for something that they not only have no control over but with admitted proof that your connection is solid. Ridiculous indeed.

In know way did I bitch and moan, you made a snide comment about if I knew what the problem is then why did I bother contacting Apple and my ISP. Well, I didn't know anything until I contacted my ISP and they suggested that the problem might be the one I gave to bannedwithoutcause. Your making this out to be more than it actually is and are looking for someone to argue with and belittle. You have become very cynical recently as I remember you being a lot nicer, anything happening in your life that you wish to discuss.
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In know way did I bitch and moan, you made a snide comment about if I knew what the problem is then why did I bother contacting Apple and my ISP. Well, I didn't know anything until I contacted my ISP and they suggested that the problem might be the one I gave to bannedwithoutcause. Your making this out to be more than it actually is and are looking for someone to argue with and belittle. You have become very cynical recently as I remember you being a lot nicer, anything happening in your life that you wish to discuss.

1) You clearly stated that Apple's services are slow, that you complained to Swisscom, and that Google and MS' services were considerably faster. So how exactly is it your ISP's fault when you say you can upload 2GiB in 10 minutes to Google Drive?

2) I've always questioned your comments when they are poorly contrived and you've always complained I wasn't being nice enough to you when I questioned them.

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1) You clearly stated that Apple's services are slow, that you complained to Swisscom, and that Google and MS' services were considerably faster. So how exactly is it your ISP's fault when you say you can upload 2GiB in 10 minutes to Google Drive?

2) I've always questioned your comments when they are poorly contrived and you've always complained I wasn't being nice enough to you when I questioned them.

Yes I did, but I didn't say Apple iCloud was bad just that where I live it happens to be slow. As stated before both Google and Microsoft have data centers in Switzerland so it's an obvious assumption that because they both use Swisscom and I also reside on the same network, that it will be faster. Routing to Ireland however, unfortunately has to go through Germany do to a deal Swisscom has with Deutsche-Telekom, this presents a lot of issues. Even though Germany has seen a huge increase in internet traffic they still haven't adopted a lot of the new technologies available like OUTCF to help against loops and packet losses. Germany is a borderline socialist state, it takes them forever to adopt new policies in not only their government but also public works, including their ISP's, especially Deutsche-Telekom. Swisscom needs to strike a deal with Belgium like they have been promising for years and bypass Germany to get to the northern countries faster. These are things that I thought weren't necessary in my original comment but you attached yourself to the conversation because I said something negative about Apple. It had nothing to do with the way I worded my response, you're just picking on me because you're either bored or just like making yourself seem superior in someway. Well congratulations it worked, I now feel like crap for spending what little time of the day I feel well enough to post here.
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[...] I now feel like crap for spending what little time of the day I feel well enough to post here.

 

Don't let it get you down. SolipismX is very analytical and is quick to call out logical fallacies. Sometimes that's of great benefit to the forum so don't discourage him! :) Just don't get into those discussions. Breath deep and let it go.

 

So anyway, how ARE you feeling? Any progress?

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Don't let it get you down. SolipismX is very analytical and is quick to call out logical fallacies. Sometimes that's of great benefit to the forum so don't discourage him! 1smile.gif Just don't get into those discussions. Breath deep and let it go.

So anyway, how ARE you feeling? Any progress?

A lot actually, thank you so much for asking. I had a lumpectomy on my left side and a complete mastectomy on my right which seemed to be very successful, the big problem however was that the cancer had spread to my left lung in which most was almost fully removed. I'll never be able to accomplish my dream of being a world class free diver but my recovery has been upgraded to above 50 percent so I have hope, where there was none before. I was staying in a beautiful private clinic by the name of Clinique Générale-Beaulieu near Geneva up until pretty recently. I still have a long road ahead of me but at least I am at home now with my husband, kids and fluffy beer loving Malamute pillow.
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A lot actually, thank you so much for asking. I had a lumpectomy on my left side and a complete mastectomy on my right which seemed to be very successful, the big problem however was that the cancer had spread to my left lung in which most was almost fully removed. I'll never be able to accomplish my dream of being a world class free diver but my recovery has been upgraded to above 50 percent so I have hope, where there was none before. I was staying in a beautiful private clinic by the name of Clinique Générale-Beaulieu near Geneva up until pretty recently. I still have a long road ahead of me but at least I am at home now with my husband, kids and fluffy beer loving Malamute pillow.

 

Damn, you do EVERYTHING "to the maximum," don't you? Even getting sick. You don't just get sick, you get SUPER-sick!

 

What's breathing like with only one lung?

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Damn, you do EVERYTHING "to the maximum," don't you? Even getting sick. You don't just get sick, you get SUPER-sick!

What's breathing like with only one lung?

What's the old saying, nothing is worth doing unless you do it right. I was always convinced that my parents were Chinese in a former life as they were always a little overambitious about my education. Even though I am Swiss I went to an international school instead of public, started university at age 16 and was forced to not just play the piano but the violen and then the cello. I'm not in anyway stating that I'm some kind super nerd made from the best parts of lesser nerds just that I had looney parents. So what they created was an individual who always did a little to much for her own good. Breathing from one lung is not much different from one except that I get winded quicker when doing something strenreous like going to bathroom after a bowl of chili but most people are after sampling my husbands cooking.
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So you bitch and moan to the last mile provider for something that they not only have no control over but with admitted proof that your connection is solid. Ridiculous indeed.

 

Complaining may have a low chance of getting anything changed, but not complaining has a 0% chance.  If Apple receives a complaint from a customer and a request from a network provider, then accumulated with other complaints that might prompt them to do something.  Don't ask don't get.

 

So, ridiculous?  Really?  Bitching and moaning?  Really?  

 

Maybe put yourself in someone else's shoes for once, rather than pouring scorn from your ivory tower.

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So you bitch and moan to the last mile provider for something that they not only have no control over but with admitted proof that your connection is solid. Ridiculous indeed.

Last mile providers can in fact have great influence on the speed of various services if they choke their connections to the other parts of the internet. Just look at Netflix and Verizon.

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Complaining may have a low chance of getting anything changed, but not complaining has a 0% chance.  If Apple receives a complaint from a customer and a request from a network provider, then accumulated with other complaints that might prompt them to do something.  Don't ask don't get.

So, ridiculous?  Really?  Bitching and moaning?  Really?  

Maybe put yourself in someone else's shoes for once, rather than pouring scorn from your ivory tower.

Only a fool complains to an entity that has neither has the ability nor care to fix the problem caused by another company.

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Last mile providers can in fact have great influence on the speed of various services if they choke their connections to the other parts of the internet. Just look at Netflix and Verizon.

Sure, if you can prove that her ISP was purposely throttling iClould traffic, and letting Google and MS traffic through just fine. You''lI also have to explain why the distances and countries the traffic had to traverse were mentioned if her position was that her ISP was artificially limited iCloud traffic. Good luck.

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Only a fool complains to an entity that has neither has the ability nor care to fix the problem caused by another company.

 

What is that, Solipsism's Law?

 

Only a fool tries to make up their own clumsy platitudes about complicated things like national network infrastructure, complaints policies and corporate motivations.

 

Relic already said that Swisscom have an option on the table for shifting from a deal with a German network to a deal with a Belgium network to deal with the speed issues.  Clearly they care enough for it to be a consideration.  Companies care when there are enough complaints.

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What is that, Solipsism's Law?

Only a fool tries to make up their own clumsy platitudes about complicated things like national network infrastructure, complaints policies and corporate motivations.

Relic already said that Swisscom have an option on the table for shifting from a deal with a German network to a deal with a Belgium network to deal with the speed issues.  Clearly they care enough for it to be a consideration.  Companies care when there are enough complaints.

1) Your unintended irony is hilarious.

2) None of that changes the fact that Swisscom isn't responsible for iCloud servers being placed in Ireland instead of 10 to 30 miles away. Reasonable people look for solutions, like contacting Apple to petition to get more server farms throughout Europe, not bitching to their ISP because Apple hasn't setup shop next door. One could even use comparisons to MS and Google's servers as well as transfer issues between nation ISPs in a proposal, but there is nothing to be gained by calling a Swisscom CSR to bemoan how unfair it is that Apple isn't best door to where you live.

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Your understanding of "unintended" is interesting.

Anyway, you're doing your "never back down" thing, even at the expense of needlessly being a colossal jerk. If you don't have good iCloud service, by all means complain to Apple, and also complain to other bodies that might have some additional argumentative power with Apple. Like, for example, your pipe provider.

No more time for pointless arguing with you. Have a nice day.

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Your understanding of "unintended" is interesting.

Anyway, you're doing your "never back down" thing, even at the expense of needlessly being a colossal jerk. If you don't have good iCloud service, by all means complain to Apple, and also complain to other bodies that might have some additional argumentative power with Apple. Like, for example, your pipe provider.

No more time for pointless arguing with you. Have a nice day.


Thank you so much for commenting on my behalf, I really appreciate it. I went back and reread what I posted. Because English is not my primary language, I get frustrated sometimes when I can't properly convey to someone what I mean. So if my posts seemed like I was bitching and blaming Apple for the network performance of iCloid, it was not my intention. I fully understand that these things happen and it is not solely a problem with Apple or my ISP Swisscom if at all. However, someone calling me a fool because I notified both parties about the problem is indeed a little off, especially when the person didn't offer an opinion as to what they would have done in my situation. Swisscom sales iPads, iPhones and Macbook Airs bundled with a USB LTE modem. In their shop they demo the uses of these Apple products as well as the software that's installed on them, including iCloud because well obviusly its a service that you access using Swiscomms network. Access your files from anywhere using our super duper LTE network and Apple's iCloud. They do the same thing when I bought their Nokia 2520 & 1020 bundle for my daughters birthday, take a photo and then view or edit with OneDrive. So when one of their advertised services is not working as well as it should be, what would be the most logical step. Now I didn't include what I just wrote in any of my previous responses because I thought that even without this additional info it would have been an obvious action to take. iCloud isn't some random teen gossip site that I'm upset about not being able to download the newest photos of a shirtless Justin Bieber, it's a service that increases the functionality of Apple devices sold by Swisscom, the same thing goes for iCloud. I called Apple because A. I'm not just using the free 5GB but a purchased 50GB and B.streaming from Apple TV is working just fine. Because iCloud is available within the majority of apps that support accessing data from the cloud, which by the way if I wanted to bitch about something it would be this, I purchased the extra 50 GB because its the closest thing I can get to a file manager in iOS and I need it to transfer my music files around.


Whoooohhhh, okay so was I wrong for contacting Apple and Swisscom's tech support or should I have just shrugged it off in fear of being a complete fool.
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I think what you posted was fine and perfectly understandable, whether English is your first, second, third, or nth language. Solipsism is just being Solipsism.

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Thank you so much for commenting on my behalf, I really appreciate it. I went back and reread what I posted. Because English is not my primary language, I get frustrated sometimes when I can't properly convey to someone what I mean. So if my posts seemed like I was bitching and blaming Apple for the network performance of iCloid, it was not my intention. I fully understand that these things happen and it is not solely a problem with Apple or my ISP Swisscom if at all. However, someone calling me a fool because I notified both parties about the problem is indeed a little off, especially when the person didn't offer an opinion as to what they would have done in my situation. Swisscom sales iPads, iPhones and Macbook Airs bundled with a USB LTE modem. In their shop they demo the uses of these Apple products as well as the software that's installed on them, including iCloud because well obviusly its a service that you access using Swiscomms network. Access your files from anywhere using our super duper LTE network and Apple's iCloud. They do the same thing when I bought their Nokia 2520 & 1020 bundle for my daughters birthday, take a photo and then view or edit with OneDrive. So when one of their advertised services is not working as well as it should be, what would be the most logical step. Now I didn't include what I just wrote in any of my previous responses because I thought that even without this additional info it would have been an obvious action to take. iCloud isn't some random teen gossip site that I'm upset about not being able to download the newest photos of a shirtless Justin Bieber, it's a service that increases the functionality of Apple devices sold by Swisscom, the same thing goes for iCloud. I called Apple because A. I'm not just using the free 5GB but a purchased 50GB and B.streaming from Apple TV is working just fine. Because iCloud is available within the majority of apps that support accessing data from the cloud, which by the way if I wanted to bitch about something it would be this, I purchased the extra 50 GB because its the closest thing I can get to a file manager in iOS and I need it to transfer my music files around.

Whoooohhhh, okay so was I wrong for contacting Apple and Swisscom's tech support or should I have just shrugged it off in fear of being a complete fool.

Don't blame the English language for your poor reasoning skills. You know damn well you mastery of English is exceptional.

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HOW DARE YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WAS UNSATISFACTORY









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Don't blame the English language for your poor reasoning skills. You know damn well you mastery of English is exceptional.

Wow, an insult and a compliment in a single paragraph, I now know how a proton and an electron feel within the confines of Atom.
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Don't blame the English language for your poor reasoning skills. You know damn well you mastery of English is exceptional.

Wow, an insult and a compliment in a single paragraph, I now know how a proton and an electron feel within the confines of Atom.

 

Are you suggesting that SolipsismX is a neutron?

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No silly, the two cancel each other out, get it, he gave me a compliment and an insult. Yours works too, hehe.
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Wow, an insult and a compliment in a single paragraph, I now know how a proton and an electron feel within the confines of Atom.


Outstanding! It's comments like this that make reading here worthwhile.

I can't believe I've missed that you're back (except that I don't sign in very often). Welcome back!

This (thread on iCloud storage plans!) doesn't seems like the most appropriate place to be commenting, but after poking around a bit and seeing a bunch of your recent comments, I'm so happy to hear about your ongoing recovery. Certainly there are no guarantees with anything like this, but whether you get extra months, years, or decades, it sounds like a much better scenario than a few months ago. Best of luck!

Now I guess we can all get back to the daily quibbling and bickering... ;-)
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So, taking the thread back a closer to the original topic:

 

My wife and I decided yesterday that we should look into cloud backup for her ~250GB photo library since an earthquake or fire would take out not only her primary storage but the backup too, since they're both in the house. We didn't get into exhaustive research because a cursory look was all it took for us to decide that, at least until we see what larger plans from Apple cost when they announce them, Google Drive is a no-brainer. $10/month for a TB? That's roughly the same price as 200GB from Amazon and a measly 50GB from Apple (again, at current rates).

 

I get the privacy concerns, but honestly, what are they gonna glean from a big stack of photos? The pics have squat for metadata -- no geo, no tags -- so unless they're going to do some heavy face recognition I don't think we're revealing anything that could adversely affect us. At least not any more so than with any other third-party storage solution.

 

Unless Apple really sharpens their pencil in a serious way, and history doesn't suggest we should be particularly optimistic, I can't see any reason for us not to go with Google for this.

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So, taking the thread back a closer to the original topic:

My wife and I decided yesterday that we should look into cloud backup for her ~250GB photo library since an earthquake or fire would take out not only her primary storage but the backup too, since they're both in the house. We didn't get into exhaustive research because a cursory look was all it took for us to decide that, at least until we see what larger plans from Apple cost when they announce them, Google Drive is a no-brainer. $10/month for a TB? That's roughly the same price as 200GB from Amazon and a measly 50GB from Apple (again, at current rates).

I get the privacy concerns, but honestly, what are they gonna glean from a big stack of photos? The pics have squat for metadata -- no geo, no tags -- so unless they're going to do some heavy face recognition I don't think we're revealing anything that could adversely affect us. At least not any more so than with any other third-party storage solution.

Unless Apple really sharpens their pencil in a serious way, and history doesn't suggest we should be particularly optimistic, I can't see any reason for us not to go with Google for this.

Flickr gives you a TB for free.
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So, taking the thread back a closer to the original topic:



My wife and I decided yesterday that we should look into cloud backup for her ~250GB photo library since an earthquake or fire would take out not only her primary storage but the backup too, since they're both in the house. We didn't get into exhaustive research because a cursory look was all it took for us to decide that, at least until we see what larger plans from Apple cost when they announce them, Google Drive is a no-brainer. $10/month for a TB? That's roughly the same price as 200GB from Amazon and a measly 50GB from Apple (again, at current rates).



I get the privacy concerns, but honestly, what are they gonna glean from a big stack of photos? The pics have squat for metadata -- no geo, no tags -- so unless they're going to do some heavy face recognition I don't think we're revealing anything that could adversely affect us. At least not any more so than with any other third-party storage solution.





I'm a little late with this reply, but if you think google isn't doing "heavy face recognition", you haven't been following along.

All the way back in 2010 Eric Schmidt famously said: “Show us 14 photos of yourself and we can identify who you are. You think you don’t have 14 photos of yourself on the internet? You’ve got Facebook photos!”

See: http://allthingsd.com/20110120/talking-schmidt-googles-ceo-in-his-own-words/ for this and various other memorable quotes.

That was in 2010. How good do you think they are now?

Here's another question: you say that your pics have squat for metadata. First, are you quite sure about that? Do both you and your wife take zero photos with your phones? Unless you've taken active steps to disable and/or remove metadata from those photos, it's there. Second, once you get dependent on these services, it's hard to break out. Will your next camera have WiFi or geo-tagging built in and turned on by default? Will you be able to disable them? Will you remember a year from now that you didn't want your 3rd party data mining storage provider to have that info?

People on the street have little concept of how deeply data mining companies are reaching to extract information about who you are, where you are, what you do, etc. It's their lifeblood and it's worth $Billions to them. Did you take some photos with a famous landmark in the background? You're geo-tracked. Okay, that's easy. But realize that at this point virtually every major building's facade, every famous skyline, etc. has been photographed by not just amateurs uploading their photos, but by professionals gathering that data for more advanced mapping, ie. StreetView and other such applications. If you take a photo and these things are in the background, bingo, it's been geotagged. I'm not sure how good they are at this yet, but they are working on it, and frankly my knowledge of what they're doing is usually at least months behind, so my guess is they're already getting pretty good at this.

For everyone: You may be one of those that don't care about being tracked around like animals wherever you go, and that's fully your choice. But please, please, if you have kids, DO NOT make that choice for them by uploading pictures of them. They do not yet have the ability to understand the issues, and you're not giving them a chance to make that decision for themselves when they are old enough to understand.
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So, taking the thread back a closer to the original topic:

 

My wife and I decided yesterday that we should look into cloud backup for her ~250GB photo library since an earthquake or fire would take out not only her primary storage but the backup too, since they're both in the house. We didn't get into exhaustive research because a cursory look was all it took for us to decide that, at least until we see what larger plans from Apple cost when they announce them, Google Drive is a no-brainer. $10/month for a TB? That's roughly the same price as 200GB from Amazon and a measly 50GB from Apple (again, at current rates).

 

I get the privacy concerns, but honestly, what are they gonna glean from a big stack of photos? The pics have squat for metadata -- no geo, no tags -- so unless they're going to do some heavy face recognition I don't think we're revealing anything that could adversely affect us. At least not any more so than with any other third-party storage solution.


 


I'm a little late with this reply, but if you think google isn't doing "heavy face recognition", you haven't been following along.

All the way back in 2010 Eric Schmidt famously said: “Show us 14 photos of yourself and we can identify who you are. You think you don’t have 14 photos of yourself on the internet? You’ve got Facebook photos!”

See: http://allthingsd.com/20110120/talking-schmidt-googles-ceo-in-his-own-words/ for this and various other memorable quotes.

That was in 2010. How good do you think they are now?

Here's another question: you say that your pics have squat for metadata. First, are you quite sure about that? Do both you and your wife take zero photos with your phones? Unless you've taken active steps to disable and/or remove metadata from those photos, it's there. Second, once you get dependent on these services, it's hard to break out. Will your next camera have WiFi or geo-tagging built in and turned on by default? Will you be able to disable them? Will you remember a year from now that you didn't want your 3rd party data mining storage provider to have that info?

People on the street have little concept of how deeply data mining companies are reaching to extract information about who you are, where you are, what you do, etc. It's their lifeblood and it's worth $Billions to them. Did you take some photos with a famous landmark in the background? You're geo-tracked. Okay, that's easy. But realize that at this point virtually every major building's facade, every famous skyline, etc. has been photographed by not just amateurs uploading their photos, but by professionals gathering that data for more advanced mapping, ie. StreetView and other such applications. If you take a photo and these things are in the background, bingo, it's been geotagged. I'm not sure how good they are at this yet, but they are working on it, and frankly my knowledge of what they're doing is usually at least months behind, so my guess is they're already getting pretty good at this.

For everyone: You may be one of those that don't care about being tracked around like animals wherever you go, and that's fully your choice. But please, please, if you have kids, DO NOT make that choice for them by uploading pictures of them. They do not yet have the ability to understand the issues, and you're not giving them a chance to make that decision for themselves when they are old enough to understand.

 

That's why I mail pictures of my junk using a film camera. It's real cheap to do, the Fotomat guy keeps saying it's on the house, must be some kind of promotional deal going on.


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That's why I mail pictures of my junk using a film camera. It's real cheap to do, the Fotomat guy keeps saying it's on the house, must be some kind of promotional deal going on.

You mean junk laying around in your garage?

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You mean junk laying around in your garage?

Uuuuummmmm sure, yeah, that's what I meant.

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So, I think this is good news.... question for the iCloud gurus:

 

I currently have 4 iPhones sharing one AppleID (yes, bad, will be fixing it with ios8)

 

Assuming I split everyone to their own appleID (and use family sharing for connectivity), will I be able to aggregate the extra iCloud storage i buy for backups? 5GB isn't enough for individual phones (kids phones are more problematic than mine)!

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