Originally posted by james808
[B]I'll agree if you are doing a photo or illustration based poster with virtually no type, you might as well do it all in Photoshop. I use Photoshop constantly, and I use many if not all of its high end features, but I doubt I have ever done anything as a finished product using only Photoshop: I don't see the point when you have dedicated programs for dealing with vectors and type. How long does it take to save a photoshop file and place it in illustrator, indesign or Quark? 10 seconds? And I wouldn't call myself or anyone else a professional if I thought they weren't capable of delivering something other than a TIFF file without error to a printer.
I generally agree with that. I said pretty much the same thing. Again, I'm not talking about complex projects. We recieved thousands of files over the years from Pagemaker, Quark, and began to receive them from InDesign (just a few until ver 3, but more after) as well.
But, over the past few years we also began to receive files from PS. More as time went on. As Adobe added these features, and improved those for text, borders, masking, and others, with plug-ins helping out, it became more popular.
I don't know what to tell you except that it's a fact.Files from large companies, not just individuals doing layout as a sometimes paying hobby.
Uhh ... what page layout software are you talking about? There is no way I know of to turn OFF linking of images in Quark and Indesign, unless you have idiots sending you PICTs embedded in their layout files. Do you mean they forget to update the preview, which has no effect on what is actually printed?
No. I mean that there are times when you have to re-link in InDesign after having made a change to an image in PS, and saved back under the same name. Similar problems exist in Quark.
And, what's with the Uhh. Do you have to collect your thoughts on the keyboard before you can reply?
Given ftp, how much of a problem is this really? Sending a font file probably takes five minutes end to end, maybe half an hour for larger images (setting aside the fact that automatic collection of images and fonts is included with both Quark and Indesign)
Given the size of the files and the speed of the service, that isn't the problem. It's finding the person who worked on the file. Oftentimes, one isn't dealing with the company that did the work, but the client. You have to explain the problem to them (though you try not to), as they don't always want to put you into contact with the company, or individual responsible for the actual work.
Who are these people? Photographers? Illustrators? I find it hard to believe there is a population of designers out there that can use Photoshop, but can't use Quark or Indesign. If you can't use Quark or InDesign, you really can't be a designer. You can be "desktop publisher", or maybe one of those guys that produces club flyers, but you can't call yourself a professional designer.
It may be hard for you to believe, but when you have hundreds of clients, you will find that it happens more often than you would like. Some of our clients included (we sold the company in late 2004) Time Warner, and Grey Advertising, to name two of the biggest. When work is rushed, as it often is, mistakes will happen.
You are wrong to say that they don't know how to use the programs, but there is a certain amount of mental laziness that I've encountered even at the highest levels of the profession.
While you may never make errors, I can assure you that others do.