Apple set to select Maiden, NC as site of $1B server farm

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in General Discussion edited January 2014
Apple as early as this afternoon is expected to announce that it has chosen the town of Maiden in North Carolina's Catawba County as the site where it plans to build a $1 billion data center to support its booming online media businesses.



The Charlotte Observer is passing on word from Maiden officials who say they plan to make "a major economic-related announcement" at 5:30 p.m. at the Maiden Recreation Center, on East Klutz Street.



Although officials stopped short of specifying what the announcement would entail, it's believed to be tied to Apple's stated plans to build a $1 billion server farm in a rural location of North Carolina plagued by double-digit unemployment rates.



In June, lawmakers approved changes to the state’s corporate tax laws that sealed the deal for Apple to begin work on the project. North Carolina is expected to see a significant economic boost as a result of the agreement, while Apple will receive a tax break of up to $46 million over the next 10 years for moving its business into the state.



That tax break is contingent on the company reaching its $1 billion investment target within nine years of beginning the project, provided that it also offers health insurance for its local employees, meets a wage standard, and foregoes other state grants or tax breaks.



Should Apple's server farm remain active for three decades, corporate tax breaks could exceed $300 million, according to estimates outlined by North Carolina's legislature. At least 50 full-time employees will staff the facility. Over time, the investment of $1 billion would create more than 3,000 jobs in the local area, as estimated by the North Carolina Department of Commerce.



Thus far, Apple has been reportedly been mulling land in both Catawba and Cleveland counties as potential sites for where it plans to build its new data center. However, the Observer notes that chatter in recent weeks has centered around a "183-acre tract off U.S. 321 in Maiden" called Catawba Data Park.



A quick check by AppleInsider reveals that site to be a greenfield located at 6027 Startown Road*that's been on the market for $35,000 per acre, requiring a minimum purchase of 25 acres. Should Apple purchase the entire lot, it would cost the Cupertino-based company approximate $6.43 million in cash before taxes, according to property listings.







An aerial photo of the site can be seen above.
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  • Reply 1 of 29
    msnlymsnly Posts: 378member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


    However, the Observer notes that chatter in recent weeks has centered around a "183-acre tract off U.S. 321 in Maiden" called Catawba Data Park.





    Not that far from home and that's a big piece of land.
  • Reply 2 of 29
    Whose servers is it going to use?

  • Reply 3 of 29
    adamiigsadamiigs Posts: 355member
    What are they going to do with that big green lego looking building?
  • Reply 4 of 29
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
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    Originally Posted by samurai1999 View Post


    Whose servers is it going to use?





    I am curious which storage solution since Apple doesn't make a disk array any longer.
  • Reply 5 of 29
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,408member
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    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


    An arial photo of the site can be seen above.



    Instead of what... a Helvetica photo?
  • Reply 6 of 29
    nasseraenasserae Posts: 3,166member
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    Originally Posted by mstone View Post


    I am curious which storage solution since Apple doesn't make a disk array any longer.



    They have at at least a year to come up with one. I am sure this server farm project was not born last month and Apple probably have something going on regarding servers and storage solutions.
  • Reply 7 of 29
    anantksundaramanantksundaram Posts: 20,225member
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    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


    ....The Charlotte Observer is passing on word from Maiden officials who say they plan to make "a major economic-related announcement" .....[/url][/c]



    'economic'-related? hmmm..... glad this will be a server farm, and not a call center, in Maiden.......
  • Reply 8 of 29
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,408member
    I just love that they make an announcement like this on "Klutz" Street. They probably have lots of accidents there.



    Quote:

    ....at the Maiden Recreation Center, on East Klutz Street.



  • Reply 9 of 29
    jupiteronejupiterone Posts: 1,564member
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    Originally Posted by AdamIIGS View Post


    What are they going to do with that big green lego looking building?



    Jobs wants to raze it, but I heard the historic society is looking into the matter.....DOH!



  • Reply 10 of 29
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
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    Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post


    I just love that they make an announcement like this on "Klutz" Street. They probably have lots of accidents there.



    Well, Infinite Loop is not really such a good name either, at least not from a programming perspective.
  • Reply 11 of 29
    oc4theooc4theo Posts: 294member
    I thought Akamai is behind Apple storage solutions as far as online business is concerned.



    It seems then that Apple is about to go it alone. Cloud computing is on the rise. Why would Apple want to invest so much when every company is consolidating? Business must be booming.



    Anyway, we need this in California, not in no-man's land.
  • Reply 12 of 29
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by OC4Theo View Post


    I thought Akamai is behind Apple storage solutions as far as online business is concerned.



    It seems then that Apple is about to go it alone. Cloud computing is on the rise. Why would Apple want to invest so much when every company is consolidating? Business must be booming.



    Anyway, we need this in California, not in no-man's land.



    There are some reports where Apple is now using more than just Akamai. I believe there was an AI article on it earlier this year.



    Cloud computing is on the rise which is a why Apple needs a server farm like this. Though there is no evidence as to what, specifically, this server farm will be used for. Other companies are consolidating because many aren?t money right now and/or they are already in debt. Apple?s sales are still beating averages, they are well in the black with a lot of liquid cash and their stock has been on the rise all year. There is always an opportunity to make a wise investment, and investing in cheap land and getting discounts on taxes when states are fighting for your business is s great time to invest in such things.



    No man?s land is the perfect place for this. It?s cheap land with low taxes near a huge power grid and internet backbone.
  • Reply 13 of 29
    arial photo --> aerial photo
  • Reply 14 of 29
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,408member
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    Originally Posted by mstone View Post


    Well, Infinite Loop is not really such a good name either, at least not from a programming perspective.



    Perhaps one day they'll be located on App Street.
  • Reply 15 of 29
    xwiredtvaxwiredtva Posts: 389member
    Apple could really take over the netbook market in one swoop. Wanna know how? Really easy... It involves THIS server farm...



    Release a down loadable version of OS X mobile, completely integrated into the web and THESE servers... Do it all for $19.95 and FOR NETBOOKS based on the Intel Atom CPU.



    Step by step (end user):



    goto OSXmobile.apple.com

    Download the Mobile OS installer (Win XP only)

    Run it.

    Behind the scenes:

    The installer takes a snap shot of the Wifi/LAN network settings writes to RAM Disk

    Formats the drive (backup optional to external USB OR MobileMe)

    Installs basic OS, grabs network settings

    Restarts to Apple Logo and "Downloading and Installing iMobile OS"

    Goes through some setup screens.

    During the proccess the user can sign up for MobileMe (in that case the OS is free) or pay $19.95 for the OS (keep in mind UPDATES are billable Unless your a MobileMe subscriber).

    System restarts into OS X Mobile where they get the iTouch like OS, basic apps. iLife, iChat lite... AND THE APP STORE!



    Oh wouldn't the masses be happy. MobileMe recurring would skyrocket, OS X and Safari usage would triple. Nobody would care of 7 Starter edition...



    Netbooks would sell out! Economy would turn around. ATT, verizon, T-mobile would be pushing the USB CellNet sticks like crazy. Everyone would be Blogging while driving.



    Pipe dream... But that's MY use for the server farm. They'll probably do something stupid like itunes or app store...
  • Reply 16 of 29
    ajitmdajitmd Posts: 365member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    There are some reports where Apple is now using more than just Akamai. I believe there was an AI article on it earlier this year.



    Cloud computing is on the rise which is a why Apple needs a server farm like this. Though there is no evidence as to what, specifically, this server farm will be used for. Other companies are consolidating because many aren?t money right now and/or they are already in debt. Apple?s sales are still beating averages, they are well in the black with a lot of liquid cash and their stock has been on the rise all year. There is always an opportunity to make a wise investment, and investing in cheap land and getting discounts on taxes when states are fighting for your business is s great time to invest in such things.



    No man?s land is the perfect place for this. It?s cheap land with low taxes near a huge power grid and internet backbone.



    What kind of deal do you think they got for the land, property taxes? Equally important would be the cost of fiber, electrical power and water supply. I suspect that in this recession they will these resources for dirt cheap. I imagine that logistically CA would have been better, but the land costs, electricity and water got to be obscene.



    I even wonder how long Apple wants to stay in CA with their fiscal problems and rising taxes.
  • Reply 17 of 29
    tokoloshtokolosh Posts: 101member
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    Originally Posted by AjitMD View Post


    I imagine that logistically CA would have been better, but the land costs, electricity and water got to be obscene.



    Often companies search for redundancy that would be a backup in case of disaster. A disaster striking in CA and possibly shutting down facilities and infrastructure would almost certainly not affect North Carolina and visa versa. This farm not only increases Apple's capacity but also creates more redundancy. This is very common in banking and other record heavy industries, backups and servers are maintained at two or more sites in case of failure specific to location.
  • Reply 18 of 29
    al_bundyal_bundy Posts: 1,525member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mstone View Post


    I am curious which storage solution since Apple doesn't make a disk array any longer.





    Probably the usuall suspects like netapp, emc or one of the rebrands like HP. I don't see apple selling a rebranded fujitsu San
  • Reply 19 of 29
    just be for iTunes and the App Store as they are both growing quickly... not really expecting anything new to come out... although over the next nine years we could probably be running laptops off the internet lol
  • Reply 20 of 29
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    Originally Posted by skate71290 View Post


    just be for iTunes and the App Store as they are both growing quickly... not really expecting anything new to come out... although over the next nine years we could probably be running laptops off the internet lol



    Nine years ago this was the top of the line Apple notebook...
    Quote:

    The PowerBook G3/500 (Firewire/Pismo) -- formally a member of the "PowerBook Firewire" series (note the lack of official "G3" designation) as dubbed by Apple, but often referred to by its codename of "Pismo" -- features a 500 MHz PowerPC 750 (G3) processor with 1 MB of "backside" level 2 cache, 128 MB of RAM, a 12.0 GB or 20.0 GB hard drive, a tray-loading 6X DVD-ROM drive, and ATI Rage Mobility 128 graphics with 8 MB of SDRAM in a sleek black portable case with a 14.1" TFT active-matrix color display.



    Although each shares a case that is quite similar to the "Bronze Keyboard/Lombard" PowerBook G3 models that came before them, the "Firewire/Pismo" systems use a faster logic board design with a faster bus (100 MHz), faster hard drive standard (Ultra ATA/66), faster graphics (Rage Mobility 128), support for optional AirPort (802.11b), and dual Firewire ports (dropping SCSI).



    There are two slightly different configurations of this model. It originallly shipped with a 12.0 GB hard drive (M7633LL/A), and on September 13, 2000, this was increased to a 20.0 GB hard drive (M7712LL/A). The price for each configuration was US$3499.






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