Final Cut upgrades boast more than 100 new features

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  • Reply 81 of 119
    graemegraeme Posts: 61member
    [QUOTE=maxplanar;1453629]Nope. I ordered mine yesterday morning and it's slated for delivery next week.





    yes it is shipping already -ordered yesterday down to receive mine today- looks like a practical/ useful update. still room for improvement but it has stuff that it has been lacking for ages.
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  • Reply 82 of 119
    [QUOTE=Graeme;1453700]
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    Originally Posted by maxplanar View Post


    Nope. I ordered mine yesterday morning and it's slated for delivery next week.





    yes it is shipping already -ordered yesterday down to receive mine today- looks like a practical/ useful update. still room for improvement but it has stuff that it has been lacking for ages.



    Ok Tampa Apple Store has it in stock and wife is on her way to pick up now. What all does it come with in the box? Can I do a clean install or do I need FCS2 installed to upgrade? Im hoping it comes with the 1000 page manual as I lost my last one in the move.



    Anyone have any idea?
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  • Reply 83 of 119
    john.bjohn.b Posts: 2,742member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by wally007 View Post


    here's a quote from article you linked



    " (Our goal is to ship a 64-bit Mac version with Photoshop CS5, "



    nobody needs Fireworks , dreamweaver or go live to be 64bit. If PS and AE make it to 64bit , everyone is gonna be happy camper.



    Read the blog. He is clear that this is not doable. His replies are embedded in square brackets [like this] in each individual comment. Well worth the read. (And props to him for being so straight-up about it to Ps users, IMO.)



    The synopsis is that Ps was a Carbon app, and Carbon is (and only ever will be) 32-bit because Apple killed the 64-bit version when Leopard rolled out. According to Apple, Cocoa is the only path to 64-bit OS X apps. The only reason that Lr is 64-bit is that they originally wrote it from the ground up as a Cocoa app, not having any existing Carbon code that would need to be updated.



    The odd thing is that Apple have boxed themselves into the same kind of corner with this, because many of their own apps (including FCP) are Carbon-based. So they have the same amount of pain moving their pro apps to 64-bit that Adobe does.
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  • Reply 84 of 119
    graemegraeme Posts: 61member
    [QUOTE=pmasters8941;1453766]
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Graeme View Post




    Ok Tampa Apple Store has it in stock and wife is on her way to pick up now. What all does it come with in the box? Can I do a clean install or do I need FCS2 installed to upgrade? Im hoping it comes with the 1000 page manual as I lost my last one in the move.



    Anyone have any idea?





    I'm installing the upgrade over FCS 2.



    I've just done a fresh install of 10.5 and FCS 2 - everything up to date and am working on a clone of this so i can keep working in FCS 2 as my main set up for the next few months.



    I assume you can install without FCS 2 on your system as long as you own a copy and have the serial number to hand for the FCS2. that was the case with the FCS 2 update.
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  • Reply 85 of 119
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,953member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pmasters8941 View Post


    Ok Tampa Apple Store has it in stock and wife is on her way to pick up now. What all does it come with in the box? Can I do a clean install or do I need FCS2 installed to upgrade? Im hoping it comes with the 1000 page manual as I lost my last one in the move.



    Anyone have any idea?



    I don't know about a paper manual. I would assume so, but Apple has been known to drop their paper manuals for PDFs.



    You should already have the manual in PDF form on your computer, unless you specifically deleted it. It should be something like "Manual" under "Help". Your upgrade should have a PDF manual too.
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  • Reply 86 of 119
    graemegraeme Posts: 61member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JeffDM View Post


    I don't know about a paper manual. I would assume so, but Apple has been known to drop their paper manuals for PDFs.



    You should already have the manual in PDF form on your computer, unless you specifically deleted it. It should be something like "Manual" under "Help". Your upgrade should have a PDF manual too.



    The 'upgrade' comes in small box like all there software comes in these days- just 3x depth of their standard small box- no big manuals

    1x small 170 page starter manual

    7 disks of software- thats about it
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  • Reply 87 of 119
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Graeme View Post


    The 'upgrade' comes in small box like all there software comes in these days- just 3x depth of their standard small box- no big manuals

    1x small 170 page starter manual

    7 disks of software- thats about it





    Thats what I was afraid of. I loved the FCS2 print manual. It was nice to be able to quickly reference and read it as I followed along. Oh well. Ill focus on the positive in that shortly Ill have it in my hands and ready to rock my skills out a little bit more.
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  • Reply 88 of 119
    graemegraeme Posts: 61member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pmasters8941 View Post


    Thats what I was afraid of. I loved the FCS2 print manual. It was nice to be able to quickly reference and read it as I followed along. Oh well. Ill focus on the positive in that shortly Ill have it in my hands and ready to rock my skills out a little bit more.





    i know what you mean about the manual- shame.



    let me know how you get on- my install is going about 1.5hr in and pro another 2 to go.

    prob faster as fresh install.

    Graeme
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  • Reply 89 of 119
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by wally007 View Post


    By the time this new FCS ships Snow Leopard is going to be days away. FCS delivery says 2-6 weeks. Snow leopard is 8 weeks away.



    My order info from Apple. Shipping by FedEx.



    Shipment Date:

    Jul 23, 2009



    Delivers by:

    Jul 27, 2009
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  • Reply 90 of 119
    Support for Blu-ray and HD DVD in FCS:



    H.264 multi-pass encoding for Blu-ray discs and files

    Support for red laser burning of AVCHD discs for playback in compatible Blu-ray players

    HD DVD encoding for DVD Studio Pro authoring



    Batch templates with job actions for automating workflows from encoding to delivery, including:

    Create DVD

    Create Blu-ray Disc



    All QuickTime supported codecs — encoded to MPEG-2 (SD or HD DVD)

    H.264 and HDV (supported natively in HD DVD projects)



    Author HD DVDs using SD and HD assets

    HVDVD_TS to hard drive



    Blu-ray-specific requirements

    For burning Blu-ray discs: a Blu-ray recorder



    I guess the HD DVD stuff was already in process before the format was sunk. Too bad since I have an HD DVD player!



    So it looks like you can encode for Blu-ray. Add Toast 10 and a drive and you are good to go.



    From a new Millimeter article. Better Blu-ray support then I realized:



    Blu-ray support

    YouTube, MobileMe, and Apple TV are nice, but the feature that many HD producers have been clamoring for is Blu-ray support, which Apple also added to the suite. Here, Apple focused on the fast and easy production of simple projects such as the encoding of dailies and other videos for client approval, or simple tradeshow or business demos. Full-featured authoring was not the focus. Operationally, you insert chapter markers on the timeline as before, and then choose Blu-ray from the Share menu.



    http://digitalcontentproducer.com/de...23/index2.html
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  • Reply 91 of 119
    Good lord, this is one of the tiniest boxes I have ever seen for a pro app ever. At least I got it. Now time to format and reinstall and then on to the upgrade
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  • Reply 92 of 119
    I wonder why it has the name of Final Cut Studio and not Final Cut Studio 3. Anyone hear why?
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  • Reply 93 of 119
    graemegraeme Posts: 61member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pmasters8941 View Post


    Good lord, this is one of the tiniest boxes I have ever seen for a pro app ever. At least I got it. Now time to format and reinstall and then on to the upgrade





    my update took 3 hours- a fresh install might go quicker- just burnt my first bluray direct from the timeline- very very easy



    good luck with the install
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  • Reply 94 of 119
    bergermeisterbergermeister Posts: 6,784member
    I would really like to hear if the stability of STP has improved and if the changes are worth the update. Anybody?
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  • Reply 95 of 119
    graemegraeme Posts: 61member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bergermeister View Post


    I would really like to hear if the stability of STP has improved and if the changes are worth the update. Anybody?



    Sorry- not spent along time with new STP yet been exploring FCP7, bluray and new prores codecs.



    What i have used feel rock solid- but won't really know until i've done a couple of long projects.
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  • Reply 96 of 119
    Cool. Keep us posted.
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  • Reply 97 of 119
    benroethigbenroethig Posts: 2,782member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Park Seward View Post


    Support for Blu-ray and HD DVD in FCS:



    H.264 multi-pass encoding for Blu-ray discs and files

    Support for red laser burning of AVCHD discs for playback in compatible Blu-ray players

    HD DVD encoding for DVD Studio Pro authoring



    Batch templates with job actions for automating workflows from encoding to delivery, including:

    Create DVD

    Create Blu-ray Disc



    All QuickTime supported codecs ? encoded to MPEG-2 (SD or HD DVD)

    H.264 and HDV (supported natively in HD DVD projects)



    Author HD DVDs using SD and HD assets

    HVDVD_TS to hard drive



    Blu-ray-specific requirements

    For burning Blu-ray discs: a Blu-ray recorder



    I guess the HD DVD stuff was already in process before the format was sunk. Too bad since I have an HD DVD player!



    So it looks like you can encode for Blu-ray. Add Toast 10 and a drive and you are good to go.



    From a new Millimeter article. Better Blu-ray support then I realized:



    Blu-ray support

    YouTube, MobileMe, and Apple TV are nice, but the feature that many HD producers have been clamoring for is Blu-ray support, which Apple also added to the suite. Here, Apple focused on the fast and easy production of simple projects such as the encoding of dailies and other videos for client approval, or simple tradeshow or business demos. Full-featured authoring was not the focus. Operationally, you insert chapter markers on the timeline as before, and then choose Blu-ray from the Share menu.



    http://digitalcontentproducer.com/de...23/index2.html



    I wish they'd update DVD Studio Pro for full Blu-Ray support. Apple may think the optical disk is dead, but the consumer doesn't and they're the ones who count.
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  • Reply 98 of 119
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,445member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BenRoethig View Post


    I wish they'd update DVD Studio Pro for full Blu-Ray support. Apple may think the optical disk is dead, but the consumer doesn't and they're the ones who count.



    Or come up with a superior solution for file interchange that doesn't involve using up all of my GD banwidth or causing me support headaches.



    I'm ok with Apple sandbagging on Blu-ray if they're working on a better solution but FFS do "something" beyond useless platitudes like "Blu-ray's a bag of hurt"



    No...not having a decent playback mechanism for HD video is a bag of hurt. Especially on a platform that claims to be media savvy.
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  • Reply 99 of 119
    I don't know where we are in this discussion but I just received a call back for Final Cut support and they said FCP definately IS NOT 64 bit.
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  • Reply 100 of 119
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,445member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mclarenf1 View Post


    I don't know where we are in this discussion but I just received a call back for Final Cut support and they said FCP definately IS NOT 64 bit.



    Makes sense. Leopard only supports some 64-bit processes running on a 32-bit kernel. I'm a bit perplexed by the confusion here coming from some people. FCS3 cannot be 64-bit to maximum effect until a version for Snow Leopard is delivered.
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