... If you want to disable flash, you should check out the free ClickToFlash plugin. Does what it says.
I just disable Flash the easy way by disabling Flash.
It just seems silly to me that literally the *only* Flash I want to look at are movies, which literally 99 times out of a hundred are YouTube movies, which if I was on the iPhone would be no problem at all.
I'm no coder, but it seems like the same snippet of code that does this on the iPhone would also work on regular Safari. I don't see why the regular Safari can't similarly just throw up a tiny Quicktime window and play the content in there if it's a YouTube h264 video stream, which pretty much every time it is.
It would go a long way towards getting Flash off the internet forever.
Lol... no... but I can try and play some porn on it if you like lol... and the new quicktime Icon has changed since they made that screenshot - its now blue, not purple... sitting next to the iTunes icon it makes me want them to update that one somehow too... iTunes icon fails in comparison to the new quicktime one
The new icon is cool, but it looks so out of place compared to the rest of the icons. They really should modernize the rest of the app icons to match it.
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I just disable Flash the easy way by disabling Flash.
It just seems silly to me that literally the *only* Flash I want to look at are movies, which literally 99 times out of a hundred are YouTube movies, which if I was on the iPhone would be no problem at all.
I'm no coder, but it seems like the same snippet of code that does this on the iPhone would also work on regular Safari. I don't see why the regular Safari can't similarly just throw up a tiny Quicktime window and play the content in there if it's a YouTube h264 video stream, which pretty much every time it is.
It would go a long way towards getting Flash off the internet forever.
ClickToFlash really is slick. I think you are not understanding the benefits of using it and how QuickTime compatible video gets loaded on the iPhone.
With ClickToFlash you can have Flash disabled for every site or add a particular site, like Hulu to a whiteboard so that Flash will automatically load on that site. You can also just click on a window so that no other flash sites, such as ads are loaded. This is quite different from the rigamarole of turning flash on or off for the entire browser.
You can also choose to load video in H.264 if that is an option, like with YouTube. This means that when I go to YouTube it loads in an embedded QT window, which also allows me to DL the video as source. Your issue with video defaulting to Flash on the desktop and using QT on the iPhone is not from the iPhone, it?s the site determining the content you can play and then streaming it in a compatible format. Sometimes this is just a simple UserAgent change, which you can do in the desktop browser, but usually they code it better to prevent you from circumventing and stealing the videos, but ClickToFlash is the answer to that.
The new icon is cool, but it looks so out of place compared to the rest of the icons. They really should modernize the rest of the app icons to match it.
Full screen for most of the low resolution poor quality video on the net is mostly useless. Otherwise the person providing the Quicktime movie can enable full screen if the quality is sufficient.
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I hope Quicktime X allows a fullscreen button like many flash players do.
Youtube (Google) is already looking at moving away from flash and using HTML video tags.
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Originally Posted by Virgil-TB2
I'm no coder, but it seems like the same snippet of code that does this on the iPhone would also work on regular Safari. I don't see why the regular Safari can't similarly just throw up a tiny Quicktime window and play the content in there if it's a YouTube h264 video stream, which pretty much every time it is.
It would go a long way towards getting Flash off the internet forever.
It just seems silly to me that literally the *only* Flash I want to look at are movies, which literally 99 times out of a hundred are YouTube movies, which if I was on the iPhone would be no problem at all.
I think you could use http://m.youtube.com/ I tried a few videos and they open in QuickTime.
I hope Quicktime X allows a fullscreen button like many flash players do.
That's what I was thinking about. One way to help get rid of flash is to try to give it fewer reasons to exist. I watch embedded video full screen whenever I can, the small photograph-size frame for most video is too small for comfort.
One thing I'd really like to see is embedded players supporting 2x size too, so I can watch a little more comfortably and still keep track of other things on the computer.
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Originally Posted by Virgil-TB2
I just disable Flash the easy way by disabling Flash.
It just seems silly to me that literally the *only* Flash I want to look at are movies, which literally 99 times out of a hundred are YouTube movies, which if I was on the iPhone would be no problem at all.
Unfortunately, the sledgehammer approach isn't so useful for me. YouTube isn't the only useful video site out there, Apple doesn't offer app substitutes any other site other than YouTube. Flashblock offers a way to selectively autoplay flash from certain sites.
It may be personal taste but I don't see the point of enlarging poor quality video. To me it looks soft mush with bleeding colors.
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That's what I was thinking about. One way to help get rid of flash is to try to give it fewer reasons to exist. I watch embedded video full screen whenever I can, the small photograph-size frame for most video is too small for comfort.
It may be personal taste but I don't see the point of enlarging poor quality video. To me it looks soft mush with bleeding colors.
Of course it's mushy, but that's not the point. Well, I don't think it always is or has to be mushy, but point taken, it is too often. But I'm not going to focus my attention onto such a tiny little window if I can avoid it. Playing a tiny window looks especially stupid on a 24" or 30" screen. I think a 2x scale would be a good compromise. Using the system's control+scroll scaling to do same isn't very good, can't do much else with the computer when it's playing.
EyeTV got me hooked on 30-second skip-back. (And forward--in the case of commercials!) I might prefer 15 seconds (hit twice for 30) but whatever--it would be great to have it in every media player.
... ClickToFlash really is slick. I think you are not understanding the benefits of using it and how QuickTime compatible video gets loaded on the iPhone.
With ClickToFlash you can have Flash disabled for every site or add a particular site, like Hulu to a whiteboard so that Flash will automatically load on that site. You can also just click on a window so that no other flash sites, such as ads are loaded. This is quite different from the rigamarole of turning flash on or off for the entire browser.
But I don't want to click on things to make them load or not load, that was part of my point. I already have all ads blocked with adblocker, it works perfectly and I never see any flash content other than the movies, which as I said are almost exclusively YouTube.
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... You can also choose to load video in H.264 if that is an option, like with YouTube. This means that when I go to YouTube it loads in an embedded QT window, which also allows me to DL the video as source. Your issue with video defaulting to Flash on the desktop and using QT on the iPhone is not from the iPhone, it?s the site determining the content you can play and then streaming it in a compatible format. ...
I know all this. This was also part of my point.
If you are saying that ClickToFlash incorporates this functionality I am asking for, then that's great. I don't know why someone didn't just say that earlier, or why the clicktoflash people don't advertise that fact more.
The main reason I don't want or need ClickToFlash is that it was described in several articles I read as a method of displaying or not displaying flash content based on clicking on placeholders. That's not what I want at all. If in fact I can set it to instead always display a quicktime window when there is a video, then that's exactly the thing I am looking for.
I'm betting there is a downside though (possibly a lot of clicking and set-up), or everyone would use this.
EyeTV got me hooked on 30-second skip-back. (And forward--in the case of commercials!) I might prefer 15 seconds (hit twice for 30) but whatever--it would be great to have it in every media player.
It's on the iPhone OS for podcasts and videos and is GREAT.
Snow Leopard is shaping up pretty well with all these features. Although the new Quicktime icon does seem out of place. I'd also like to thank the guys here who recommended clicktoflash - Safari has never run smoother! It's annoying that the iPhone has a slightly hindered browsing experience (and I don't think all youtube videos have been encoded in H.264 yet), but it seems it must be done so we can have one internet that runs well for all without codecs/differing standards etc.
Both Apple and Microsoft are not without their various UI consistencies. Windows with it's legacy menus popping in from time to time (this seems especially true with Windows mobile, once you get past the main menu) and OS X with its seemingly confused/mesh of aqua and 'marble' UI. Plus some of the dock changes may be out of place with the rest of the OS.
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... If you want to disable flash, you should check out the free ClickToFlash plugin. Does what it says.
I just disable Flash the easy way by disabling Flash.
It just seems silly to me that literally the *only* Flash I want to look at are movies, which literally 99 times out of a hundred are YouTube movies, which if I was on the iPhone would be no problem at all.
I'm no coder, but it seems like the same snippet of code that does this on the iPhone would also work on regular Safari. I don't see why the regular Safari can't similarly just throw up a tiny Quicktime window and play the content in there if it's a YouTube h264 video stream, which pretty much every time it is.
It would go a long way towards getting Flash off the internet forever.
Lol... no... but I can try and play some porn on it if you like lol... and the new quicktime Icon has changed since they made that screenshot - its now blue, not purple... sitting next to the iTunes icon it makes me want them to update that one somehow too... iTunes icon fails in comparison to the new quicktime one
The new icon is cool, but it looks so out of place compared to the rest of the icons. They really should modernize the rest of the app icons to match it.
I just disable Flash the easy way by disabling Flash.
It just seems silly to me that literally the *only* Flash I want to look at are movies, which literally 99 times out of a hundred are YouTube movies, which if I was on the iPhone would be no problem at all.
I'm no coder, but it seems like the same snippet of code that does this on the iPhone would also work on regular Safari. I don't see why the regular Safari can't similarly just throw up a tiny Quicktime window and play the content in there if it's a YouTube h264 video stream, which pretty much every time it is.
It would go a long way towards getting Flash off the internet forever.
ClickToFlash really is slick. I think you are not understanding the benefits of using it and how QuickTime compatible video gets loaded on the iPhone.
With ClickToFlash you can have Flash disabled for every site or add a particular site, like Hulu to a whiteboard so that Flash will automatically load on that site. You can also just click on a window so that no other flash sites, such as ads are loaded. This is quite different from the rigamarole of turning flash on or off for the entire browser.
You can also choose to load video in H.264 if that is an option, like with YouTube. This means that when I go to YouTube it loads in an embedded QT window, which also allows me to DL the video as source. Your issue with video defaulting to Flash on the desktop and using QT on the iPhone is not from the iPhone, it?s the site determining the content you can play and then streaming it in a compatible format. Sometimes this is just a simple UserAgent change, which you can do in the desktop browser, but usually they code it better to prevent you from circumventing and stealing the videos, but ClickToFlash is the answer to that.
The new icon is cool, but it looks so out of place compared to the rest of the icons. They really should modernize the rest of the app icons to match it.
Yes, I totally agree.
I hope Quicktime X allows a fullscreen button like many flash players do.
I'm no coder, but it seems like the same snippet of code that does this on the iPhone would also work on regular Safari. I don't see why the regular Safari can't similarly just throw up a tiny Quicktime window and play the content in there if it's a YouTube h264 video stream, which pretty much every time it is.
It would go a long way towards getting Flash off the internet forever.
It just seems silly to me that literally the *only* Flash I want to look at are movies, which literally 99 times out of a hundred are YouTube movies, which if I was on the iPhone would be no problem at all.
I think you could use http://m.youtube.com/ I tried a few videos and they open in QuickTime.
I hope Quicktime X allows a fullscreen button like many flash players do.
That's what I was thinking about. One way to help get rid of flash is to try to give it fewer reasons to exist. I watch embedded video full screen whenever I can, the small photograph-size frame for most video is too small for comfort.
One thing I'd really like to see is embedded players supporting 2x size too, so I can watch a little more comfortably and still keep track of other things on the computer.
I just disable Flash the easy way by disabling Flash.
It just seems silly to me that literally the *only* Flash I want to look at are movies, which literally 99 times out of a hundred are YouTube movies, which if I was on the iPhone would be no problem at all.
Unfortunately, the sledgehammer approach isn't so useful for me. YouTube isn't the only useful video site out there, Apple doesn't offer app substitutes any other site other than YouTube. Flashblock offers a way to selectively autoplay flash from certain sites.
That's what I was thinking about. One way to help get rid of flash is to try to give it fewer reasons to exist. I watch embedded video full screen whenever I can, the small photograph-size frame for most video is too small for comfort.
It may be personal taste but I don't see the point of enlarging poor quality video. To me it looks soft mush with bleeding colors.
Of course it's mushy, but that's not the point. Well, I don't think it always is or has to be mushy, but point taken, it is too often. But I'm not going to focus my attention onto such a tiny little window if I can avoid it. Playing a tiny window looks especially stupid on a 24" or 30" screen. I think a 2x scale would be a good compromise. Using the system's control+scroll scaling to do same isn't very good, can't do much else with the computer when it's playing.
... ClickToFlash really is slick. I think you are not understanding the benefits of using it and how QuickTime compatible video gets loaded on the iPhone.
With ClickToFlash you can have Flash disabled for every site or add a particular site, like Hulu to a whiteboard so that Flash will automatically load on that site. You can also just click on a window so that no other flash sites, such as ads are loaded. This is quite different from the rigamarole of turning flash on or off for the entire browser.
But I don't want to click on things to make them load or not load, that was part of my point. I already have all ads blocked with adblocker, it works perfectly and I never see any flash content other than the movies, which as I said are almost exclusively YouTube.
... You can also choose to load video in H.264 if that is an option, like with YouTube. This means that when I go to YouTube it loads in an embedded QT window, which also allows me to DL the video as source. Your issue with video defaulting to Flash on the desktop and using QT on the iPhone is not from the iPhone, it?s the site determining the content you can play and then streaming it in a compatible format. ...
I know all this. This was also part of my point.
If you are saying that ClickToFlash incorporates this functionality I am asking for, then that's great. I don't know why someone didn't just say that earlier, or why the clicktoflash people don't advertise that fact more.
The main reason I don't want or need ClickToFlash is that it was described in several articles I read as a method of displaying or not displaying flash content based on clicking on placeholders. That's not what I want at all. If in fact I can set it to instead always display a quicktime window when there is a video, then that's exactly the thing I am looking for.
I'm betting there is a downside though (possibly a lot of clicking and set-up), or everyone would use this.
Last time I checked Quicktime was an application therefore it should have the same interface as any other application.
This is one area that Microsoft consistently outperforms Apple.
EyeTV got me hooked on 30-second skip-back. (And forward--in the case of commercials!) I might prefer 15 seconds (hit twice for 30) but whatever--it would be great to have it in every media player.
It's on the iPhone OS for podcasts and videos and is GREAT.
Wow the number of different interfaces present in OS X just keeps growing with each new release.
Last time I checked Quicktime was an application therefore it should have the same interface as any other application.
This is one area that Microsoft consistently outperforms Apple.
http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001126.html
http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001126.html
Well...
Microsoft is no excuse for Apple to ignore their own HUI guidelines.
Wow the number of different interfaces present in OS X just keeps growing with each new release.
Last time I checked Quicktime was an application therefore it should have the same interface as any other application.
This is one area that Microsoft consistently outperforms Apple.
But it is also a Apple media app. Isn't the darker hud look more in keeping with the look of itunes?
It's on the iPhone OS for podcasts and videos and is GREAT.
I guess. But I can see why it's being questioned why it's necessary on the desktop.
It's on the iPhone OS for podcasts and videos and is GREAT.
Not just any video though, maybe just podcast videos? It doesn't work with any non-podcast media that I've found.
http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001126.html
Gee, you're right. That one well known example completely invalidates my point. Silly me.
At least they fixed it in their latest release.
Both Apple and Microsoft are not without their various UI consistencies. Windows with it's legacy menus popping in from time to time (this seems especially true with Windows mobile, once you get past the main menu) and OS X with its seemingly confused/mesh of aqua and 'marble' UI. Plus some of the dock changes may be out of place with the rest of the OS.