Since we're discussing licensing agreements and the honor system, here's a question for you. The Snow Leopard and Box Set family pack licenses state that they cover users in the same household but do not extend to "business or commercial users."
My wife and I live together and both have Mac laptops. She uses hers mostly for personal stuff, and occasionally when bringing work home from her outside job. I imagine this describes a lot of Mac users. I'm self-employed, working from home, and I use mine for all my personal and all my work stuff. So am I eligible to share a family pack, or am I a business user?
I'm leaning toward the family pack on the reasoning that if I weren't using my computer for work, I would still buy the software for personal use. Also, if we get the the Box Set, I will most likely only use iWork for personal stuff and continue using MS Office for work. But it seems like a gray area, so what do you think?
I searched Apple Discussions and Google and didn't find anyone addressing this.
Unless you are trying to buy a family pack to get 5 licenses for business/commercial use, then your fine. The family pack is designed to ease costs for in-home purchases..basically 5 licenses for your home. Unless your mac is company supplied, your fine. If it is company supplied then the company should be purchasing their own licenses.
Since we're discussing licensing agreements and the honor system, here's a question for you. The Snow Leopard and Box Set family pack licenses state that they cover users in the same household but do not extend to "business or commercial users."
I think the intention is that small businesses cannot use a family pack to upgrade multiple workers for a reduced cost. Presumably Apple has special terms for businesses that wish to purchase multiple licenses.
If you are using your own money to buy the family pack, and it was your own money used to buy the machine in the first place, you are justified in using a family pack.
I really am hoping that it does not require OSX 10.5 to be installed.
The existing Leopard "Upgrade" or "CPU Drop-in" DVD (supplied with/for new computers around the time Leopard was released) looks for a valid operating system on any connected drive, then will let you do an installation on a different drive. The $29 Snow Leopard should do the same.
In other words, connect your backup drive containing either Leopard or Snow Leopard, the installer will recognise it, and let you install Snow Leopard on a new/erased drive.
Apple could also add an option to ask for the Leopard DVD to be inserted for verification if there is no operating system installed anywhere, or you only have Tiger installed and have bought Leopard plus the $29 Snow Leopard but didn't want to bother installing then replacing Leopard.
If you are using your own money to buy the family pack, and it was your own money used to buy the machine in the first place, you are justified in using a family pack.
Sounds good, thanks. I'm looking forward to the upgrade.
I think he meant that it is technically possible to do this, not that it is allowed by the EULA. There is no enforcement mechanism, so it is entirely on the honor system.
I know there are cheats out there, but even so, I hope Apple doesn't change things.
Over on the Windows side, the pirates are all using cracked copies, and only the legitimate users are hassled when the so called "anti-piracy" measures malfunction. I hope I don't live to see the day when Apple customers are treated the same way.
Believe me, I know. I see it all the time or Apple's software.
But "regular" people normally don't do it with MS's software. Yes, there's a lot of pirating, but the market is so big, that MS still makes a great deal of profit off it.
Apple doesn't, except for the first few months after a new version comes out.
Melgross, for a moderator, you really should at least read the post in question before passing judgement. I was indicating that the current system is on the honor system, and I see no reason for that to change.
I read the post, and all that was written. I even quoted part of it.
Most people have no need for that app. Apple's Disk Utility has a SMART checker. Launch Disk Utility, select an HDD from the source list on the left, and at the bottom of the window, information about the selected device is listed, including the SMART status.
I guess that app would be more interesting to people with servers.
I've had two disks crap out on me from SMART failures.
Getting the software is a good idea. It automatically warns you when the disk is first beginning to have problems. This gives you time to transfer all your files before it dies.
Since we're discussing licensing agreements and the honor system, here's a question for you. The Snow Leopard and Box Set family pack licenses state that they cover users in the same household but do not extend to "business or commercial users."
My wife and I live together and both have Mac laptops. She uses hers mostly for personal stuff, and occasionally when bringing work home from her outside job. I imagine this describes a lot of Mac users. I'm self-employed, working from home, and I use mine for all my personal and all my work stuff. So am I eligible to share a family pack, or am I a business user?
I'm leaning toward the family pack on the reasoning that if I weren't using my computer for work, I would still buy the software for personal use. Also, if we get the the Box Set, I will most likely only use iWork for personal stuff and continue using MS Office for work. But it seems like a gray area, so what do you think?
I searched Apple Discussions and Google and didn't find anyone addressing this.
Apple means a commercial environment. A home office is fine.
Actually the app constantly monitors any SMART messages and notifies you as soon as they happen as well as giving you a visual indicator (green, gray, red) on your status bar based on current drive status. Using Disk Utility requires you to open it up and check manually.
QT X is so limited it will drive people to VLC. They should install QT7 by default.
QT X seems pretty robust to me. The ability to record video from iSight or the screen are huge additions in functionality. No to mention that you can now edit the clip (like on the iPhone), and share it with MM or YouTube right from QT X.
These are things that VLC can't do.
And the QT X player itself is slick. VLC can't even update itself correctly. I love what it does for the community, but it's only saving grace is that it plays a ton of video formats.
QT X seems pretty robust to me. The ability to record video from iSight or the screen are huge additions in functionality. No to mention that you can now edit the clip (like on the iPhone), and share it with MM or YouTube right from QT X.
These are things that VLC can't do.
And the QT X player itself is slick. VLC can't even update itself correctly. I love what it does for the community, but it's only saving grace is that it plays a ton of video formats.
VLC certainly has it?s place as the player that can play messed up or obscure codecs, though Perian has made QuickTime quite competitive to VLC in that regard.
I agree that the features of QuickTime X are what Apple thinks the average user wants. I don?t see how there would be a big exodus to VLC just to get some features that few people use. Personally, QuickTime 7 has features I use often, so I?ll likely make that my default player.
VLC certainly has it?s place as the player that can play messed up or obscure codecs, though Perian has made QuickTime quite competitive to VLC in that regard.
I agree that the features of QuickTime X are what Apple thinks the average user wants. I don?t see how there would be a big exodus to VLC just to get some features that few people use. Personally, QuickTime 7 has features I use often, so I?ll likely make that my default player.
I have all of the players for OS X, and can say that they ALL have problems of one kind or another.
VLC is pretty good, but craps out too. MPlayer OS X Extended will often play a file that VLC won't, or will even crash with.
In fact, VLC seems to be the most crash prone of all the players, and has always been.
If the color controls for MPlayer OS X Extended weren't such a pain to use, I would use it more. But the gamma control for VLC is often a saving grace. It's far more useful that brightness or contrast controls more often than not. MPlayer OS X Extended has far better color controls though.
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Since we're discussing licensing agreements and the honor system, here's a question for you. The Snow Leopard and Box Set family pack licenses state that they cover users in the same household but do not extend to "business or commercial users."
My wife and I live together and both have Mac laptops. She uses hers mostly for personal stuff, and occasionally when bringing work home from her outside job. I imagine this describes a lot of Mac users. I'm self-employed, working from home, and I use mine for all my personal and all my work stuff. So am I eligible to share a family pack, or am I a business user?
I'm leaning toward the family pack on the reasoning that if I weren't using my computer for work, I would still buy the software for personal use. Also, if we get the the Box Set, I will most likely only use iWork for personal stuff and continue using MS Office for work. But it seems like a gray area, so what do you think?
I searched Apple Discussions and Google and didn't find anyone addressing this.
Unless you are trying to buy a family pack to get 5 licenses for business/commercial use, then your fine. The family pack is designed to ease costs for in-home purchases..basically 5 licenses for your home. Unless your mac is company supplied, your fine. If it is company supplied then the company should be purchasing their own licenses.
Since we're discussing licensing agreements and the honor system, here's a question for you. The Snow Leopard and Box Set family pack licenses state that they cover users in the same household but do not extend to "business or commercial users."
I think the intention is that small businesses cannot use a family pack to upgrade multiple workers for a reduced cost. Presumably Apple has special terms for businesses that wish to purchase multiple licenses.
If you are using your own money to buy the family pack, and it was your own money used to buy the machine in the first place, you are justified in using a family pack.
I really am hoping that it does not require OSX 10.5 to be installed.
The existing Leopard "Upgrade" or "CPU Drop-in" DVD (supplied with/for new computers around the time Leopard was released) looks for a valid operating system on any connected drive, then will let you do an installation on a different drive. The $29 Snow Leopard should do the same.
In other words, connect your backup drive containing either Leopard or Snow Leopard, the installer will recognise it, and let you install Snow Leopard on a new/erased drive.
Apple could also add an option to ask for the Leopard DVD to be inserted for verification if there is no operating system installed anywhere, or you only have Tiger installed and have bought Leopard plus the $29 Snow Leopard but didn't want to bother installing then replacing Leopard.
If you are using your own money to buy the family pack, and it was your own money used to buy the machine in the first place, you are justified in using a family pack.
Sounds good, thanks. I'm looking forward to the upgrade.
It would also help stop fiends like Pystar.
No it won't. Nothing can really stop the hacker community now that they're intel, the hardware just isn't that different.
I think he meant that it is technically possible to do this, not that it is allowed by the EULA. There is no enforcement mechanism, so it is entirely on the honor system.
I know there are cheats out there, but even so, I hope Apple doesn't change things.
Over on the Windows side, the pirates are all using cracked copies, and only the legitimate users are hassled when the so called "anti-piracy" measures malfunction. I hope I don't live to see the day when Apple customers are treated the same way.
Believe me, I know. I see it all the time or Apple's software.
But "regular" people normally don't do it with MS's software. Yes, there's a lot of pirating, but the market is so big, that MS still makes a great deal of profit off it.
Apple doesn't, except for the first few months after a new version comes out.
But cheating is still cheating.
Melgross, for a moderator, you really should at least read the post in question before passing judgement. I was indicating that the current system is on the honor system, and I see no reason for that to change.
I read the post, and all that was written. I even quoted part of it.
Most people have no need for that app. Apple's Disk Utility has a SMART checker. Launch Disk Utility, select an HDD from the source list on the left, and at the bottom of the window, information about the selected device is listed, including the SMART status.
I guess that app would be more interesting to people with servers.
I've had two disks crap out on me from SMART failures.
Getting the software is a good idea. It automatically warns you when the disk is first beginning to have problems. This gives you time to transfer all your files before it dies.
You don't need a server for this to be useful.
Since we're discussing licensing agreements and the honor system, here's a question for you. The Snow Leopard and Box Set family pack licenses state that they cover users in the same household but do not extend to "business or commercial users."
My wife and I live together and both have Mac laptops. She uses hers mostly for personal stuff, and occasionally when bringing work home from her outside job. I imagine this describes a lot of Mac users. I'm self-employed, working from home, and I use mine for all my personal and all my work stuff. So am I eligible to share a family pack, or am I a business user?
I'm leaning toward the family pack on the reasoning that if I weren't using my computer for work, I would still buy the software for personal use. Also, if we get the the Box Set, I will most likely only use iWork for personal stuff and continue using MS Office for work. But it seems like a gray area, so what do you think?
I searched Apple Discussions and Google and didn't find anyone addressing this.
Apple means a commercial environment. A home office is fine.
Actually the app constantly monitors any SMART messages and notifies you as soon as they happen as well as giving you a visual indicator (green, gray, red) on your status bar based on current drive status. Using Disk Utility requires you to open it up and check manually.
I get the same functionality as a part of OnyX.
QT X is so limited it will drive people to VLC. They should install QT7 by default.
QT X seems pretty robust to me. The ability to record video from iSight or the screen are huge additions in functionality. No to mention that you can now edit the clip (like on the iPhone), and share it with MM or YouTube right from QT X.
These are things that VLC can't do.
And the QT X player itself is slick. VLC can't even update itself correctly. I love what it does for the community, but it's only saving grace is that it plays a ton of video formats.
QT X seems pretty robust to me. The ability to record video from iSight or the screen are huge additions in functionality. No to mention that you can now edit the clip (like on the iPhone), and share it with MM or YouTube right from QT X.
These are things that VLC can't do.
And the QT X player itself is slick. VLC can't even update itself correctly. I love what it does for the community, but it's only saving grace is that it plays a ton of video formats.
VLC certainly has it?s place as the player that can play messed up or obscure codecs, though Perian has made QuickTime quite competitive to VLC in that regard.
I agree that the features of QuickTime X are what Apple thinks the average user wants. I don?t see how there would be a big exodus to VLC just to get some features that few people use. Personally, QuickTime 7 has features I use often, so I?ll likely make that my default player.
VLC certainly has it?s place as the player that can play messed up or obscure codecs, though Perian has made QuickTime quite competitive to VLC in that regard.
I agree that the features of QuickTime X are what Apple thinks the average user wants. I don?t see how there would be a big exodus to VLC just to get some features that few people use. Personally, QuickTime 7 has features I use often, so I?ll likely make that my default player.
I have all of the players for OS X, and can say that they ALL have problems of one kind or another.
VLC is pretty good, but craps out too. MPlayer OS X Extended will often play a file that VLC won't, or will even crash with.
In fact, VLC seems to be the most crash prone of all the players, and has always been.
If the color controls for MPlayer OS X Extended weren't such a pain to use, I would use it more. But the gamma control for VLC is often a saving grace. It's far more useful that brightness or contrast controls more often than not. MPlayer OS X Extended has far better color controls though.