I don't know what the hell it is. These people (LOL) are actually serious. First of all, their "product" is atrocious. Then they went in to file Chapter 11 just a couple months ago, and now they pull money out their ass to put together a new team of lawyers? What brand of crack are these people smoking?
Psystar isn't necessarily going to lose. Remember when Microsoft was trying to claim they could require their web browser and only their web browser to be sold with Windows because it was integral? Well, Apple is trying to tie a whole computer to their OS! Why should courts side with Apple if they didn't side with Microsoft?
All Psystar wants to do is what every other PC manufacturer does, sell computers with someone else's OS, except Psystar wants Apple's OS, not Microsoft's.
Well, we've gone over this before, but once again Apple is not a monopoly. MS had a monopoly position in personal computer operating systems market and used that position illegally. Apple does not have a monopoly position. And please don't try to argue that Macintosh computers is a market onto itself. That's as asinine as saying the Pepsi has a monopoly on Pepsi. (And I bet Pepsi would have something to say about it if I started buying Pepsi and bottling and selling it in bottles labeled PsyCola and marketing it as Pepsi but cheaper.)
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Originally Posted by justflybob
You meant to say 100 fold, right?
10 x 22,000 = 220,000
100 x 22,000 = 2,200,000
Oops. Yes. Thanks. Apparenly I don't do math well early in the morning.
"For the past week and the following ten days we will be doing depositions of some of Apple's highest level people. After numerous depositions of Psystar employees and associates, the shoe is finally on the other foot, oh the joy!"
True to the tone they have shown publicly so far, the company is even planning a semi-democratic take on their legal proceedings, asking readers to send in questions. The company states that they will take the top ten submissions for each Apple executive and ask them during the process.
These guys are so moronic they think they're on reality TV, or in the middle of the OJ trial. Well, they're soon going to be the BIggest Losers.
Psystar isn't necessarily going to lose. Remember when Microsoft was trying to claim they could require their web browser and only their web browser to be sold with Windows because it was integral? Well, Apple is trying to tie a whole computer to their OS!
Why should courts side with Apple if they didn't side with Microsoft?.
Because Microsoft was, and still is, a Monopoly. Apple is not.
This court and this judge has already thrown out that argument. Do try and keep up!
While Psystar is in the wrong for clearly violating any IP that Apple has, Apple's tyranny must come to an end. ASSR (Apple Socialist Soviet Republic) must be dealt with. Their tyranny is out of control. Now while I use their products everyday and don't plan to use anything else, they are still boneheaded in their heavy handed tactics. Remove the Fuhrer and replace the Reich and all will be well.
You should crawl back in your hole. Comparing Apple to Nazis and the Soviet disrespects and makes a mockery of the millions of people who were tortured and murdered by those governments, including many of my relatives. It's easy to spout such nonsense, but shame on you!
We should be able to put an operating system on whatever computer we choose.
You're missing the point - you can do that for your own use, but when you start selling them and making profits off them without permission from Apple, you've gone too far.
Here's something you might understand - try buying pictures of Mickey Mouse, and start manufacturing a boatload of Mickey Mouse merchandise to sell at a profit, without permission from Disney.
True to the tone they have shown publicly so far, the company is even planning a semi-democratic take on their legal proceedings, asking readers to send in questions
Do they have some grandiose notion that they have, or hope to have, populist support?
You should crawl back in your hole. Comparing Apple to Nazis and the Soviet disrespects and makes a mockery of the millions of people who were tortured and murdered by those governments, including many of my relatives. It's easy to spout such nonsense, but shame on you!
While Psystar is in the wrong for clearly violating any IP that Apple has, Apple's tyranny must come to an end. ASSR (Apple Socialist Soviet Republic) must be dealt with. Their tyranny is out of control. Now while I use their products everyday and don't plan to use anything else, they are still boneheaded in their heavy handed tactics. Remove the Fuhrer and replace the Reich and all will be well.
In my opinion, the only thing I see boneheaded here is Psystar's counter claim and the level of rhetoric in the above post.
Also, it seems clear to me now that Psystar is just some low-level operation. Nothing they've done leads me to believe there is some massive conspiracy of clone-makers backing them. Especially with their childish response on their blog post.
I should be able to buy a computer from someone and ask them to install whichever operating system I wish on it as you can do with most computers except for the interferene of the tyrants at apple and the apple fanboys!
I should be able to buy a computer from someone and ask them to install whichever operating system I wish on it as you can do with most computers except for the interferene of the tyrants at apple and the apple fanboys!
You don't have the right, and Apple doesn't have to sell you anything they don't want to sell you, Michael Dell!
I suppose the "agreement" reached is that Steve Jobs will not be deposed.
Law suits are legalized war. Many people don't know that the plaintiff opens themselves up to a world of hurt by filing suit. A defendant can go after the plaintiff so vigorously that they wish they never filed suit and maybe even drop their case (not likely with Apple). Virtually any request by the defendant may be allowed, as along as the information that might be obtained can be argued to be even remotely relevant to the defense. The plaintiff already feels so aggrieved as to file suit, and now the defendant forces them to walk on hot coals. It doesn't seem fair.
In Apple vs. Psystar, the reason to mount a vigorous defense is that it buys time and more opportunity for the plaintiff to make a blunder. Furthermore, some ancillary incident may be discovered, like destruction of supposed "evidence", that brings more pain onto Apple from the court than the relief Apple seeks through the law suit. Psystar might get the case dismissed because the "evidence" Psystar needs to defend itself might have been destroyed by Apple. This would leave Psystar in a very pretty position, both legally and business-wise.
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I hope something similar happens to Paystar.
Is this like a game show or something?
I don't know what the hell it is. These people (LOL) are actually serious. First of all, their "product" is atrocious. Then they went in to file Chapter 11 just a couple months ago, and now they pull money out their ass to put together a new team of lawyers? What brand of crack are these people smoking?
Psystar isn't necessarily going to lose. Remember when Microsoft was trying to claim they could require their web browser and only their web browser to be sold with Windows because it was integral? Well, Apple is trying to tie a whole computer to their OS! Why should courts side with Apple if they didn't side with Microsoft?
All Psystar wants to do is what every other PC manufacturer does, sell computers with someone else's OS, except Psystar wants Apple's OS, not Microsoft's.
Well, we've gone over this before, but once again Apple is not a monopoly. MS had a monopoly position in personal computer operating systems market and used that position illegally. Apple does not have a monopoly position. And please don't try to argue that Macintosh computers is a market onto itself. That's as asinine as saying the Pepsi has a monopoly on Pepsi. (And I bet Pepsi would have something to say about it if I started buying Pepsi and bottling and selling it in bottles labeled PsyCola and marketing it as Pepsi but cheaper.)
You meant to say 100 fold, right?
10 x 22,000 = 220,000
100 x 22,000 = 2,200,000
Oops. Yes. Thanks. Apparenly I don't do math well early in the morning.
"For the past week and the following ten days we will be doing depositions of some of Apple's highest level people. After numerous depositions of Psystar employees and associates, the shoe is finally on the other foot, oh the joy!"
True to the tone they have shown publicly so far, the company is even planning a semi-democratic take on their legal proceedings, asking readers to send in questions. The company states that they will take the top ten submissions for each Apple executive and ask them during the process.
These guys are so moronic they think they're on reality TV, or in the middle of the OJ trial. Well, they're soon going to be the BIggest Losers.
Psystar isn't necessarily going to lose. Remember when Microsoft was trying to claim they could require their web browser and only their web browser to be sold with Windows because it was integral? Well, Apple is trying to tie a whole computer to their OS!
Why should courts side with Apple if they didn't side with Microsoft?.
Because Microsoft was, and still is, a Monopoly. Apple is not.
This court and this judge has already thrown out that argument. Do try and keep up!
Oops, simple typo. No worries. Either way, they are still tyrannical idiots.
I hope Psytar wins.
We should be able to put an operating system on whatever computer we choose.
While Psystar is in the wrong for clearly violating any IP that Apple has, Apple's tyranny must come to an end. ASSR (Apple Socialist Soviet Republic) must be dealt with. Their tyranny is out of control. Now while I use their products everyday and don't plan to use anything else, they are still boneheaded in their heavy handed tactics. Remove the Fuhrer and replace the Reich and all will be well.
You should crawl back in your hole. Comparing Apple to Nazis and the Soviet disrespects and makes a mockery of the millions of people who were tortured and murdered by those governments, including many of my relatives. It's easy to spout such nonsense, but shame on you!
I hope Psytar wins.
We should be able to put an operating system on whatever computer we choose.
You're missing the point - you can do that for your own use, but when you start selling them and making profits off them without permission from Apple, you've gone too far.
Here's something you might understand - try buying pictures of Mickey Mouse, and start manufacturing a boatload of Mickey Mouse merchandise to sell at a profit, without permission from Disney.
Then they went in to file Chapter 11 just a couple months ago, and now they pull money out their ass to put together a new team of lawyers?
Asked and answered already. The new law firm took the case on a contingency fee basis.
True to the tone they have shown publicly so far, the company is even planning a semi-democratic take on their legal proceedings, asking readers to send in questions
Do they have some grandiose notion that they have, or hope to have, populist support?
We should be able to put an operating system on whatever computer we choose.
What's stopping you from doing that right now?
You should crawl back in your hole. Comparing Apple to Nazis and the Soviet disrespects and makes a mockery of the millions of people who were tortured and murdered by those governments, including many of my relatives. It's easy to spout such nonsense, but shame on you!
Hahahahahahahahaha. Cry me a river.
While Psystar is in the wrong for clearly violating any IP that Apple has, Apple's tyranny must come to an end. ASSR (Apple Socialist Soviet Republic) must be dealt with. Their tyranny is out of control. Now while I use their products everyday and don't plan to use anything else, they are still boneheaded in their heavy handed tactics. Remove the Fuhrer and replace the Reich and all will be well.
In my opinion, the only thing I see boneheaded here is Psystar's counter claim and the level of rhetoric in the above post.
Also, it seems clear to me now that Psystar is just some low-level operation. Nothing they've done leads me to believe there is some massive conspiracy of clone-makers backing them. Especially with their childish response on their blog post.
What's stopping you from doing that right now?
I should be able to buy a computer from someone and ask them to install whichever operating system I wish on it as you can do with most computers except for the interferene of the tyrants at apple and the apple fanboys!
I should be able to buy a computer from someone and ask them to install whichever operating system I wish on it as you can do with most computers except for the interferene of the tyrants at apple and the apple fanboys!
You don't have the right, and Apple doesn't have to sell you anything they don't want to sell you, Michael Dell!
Law suits are legalized war. Many people don't know that the plaintiff opens themselves up to a world of hurt by filing suit. A defendant can go after the plaintiff so vigorously that they wish they never filed suit and maybe even drop their case (not likely with Apple). Virtually any request by the defendant may be allowed, as along as the information that might be obtained can be argued to be even remotely relevant to the defense. The plaintiff already feels so aggrieved as to file suit, and now the defendant forces them to walk on hot coals. It doesn't seem fair.
In Apple vs. Psystar, the reason to mount a vigorous defense is that it buys time and more opportunity for the plaintiff to make a blunder. Furthermore, some ancillary incident may be discovered, like destruction of supposed "evidence", that brings more pain onto Apple from the court than the relief Apple seeks through the law suit. Psystar might get the case dismissed because the "evidence" Psystar needs to defend itself might have been destroyed by Apple. This would leave Psystar in a very pretty position, both legally and business-wise.
IANAL
Hahahahahahahahaha. Cry me a river.
What an ignorant a-hole.
May Kharma pay you a visit soon.
What an ignorant a-hole.
May Kharma pay you a visit soon.
I'm waiting.....
Please don't feed the trolls.
There's an ignore button for a reason.
Jimzip