MS should open its store up in the zoo across the street where it belongs.
LOL! Just keep MS away from the Snow Leopards in there.
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Originally Posted by bwik
Microsoft is a completely different kind of company. The ways Microsoft makes its money, do not require stores. In fact they try to stay out of the public spotlight.
Then why is Microsoft copying Apple and opening up their own store to compete with Apple? They will never have the same cachet as Apple's stores because MS doesn't selling computers.
The article fails to mention that the location of that store has a lot to do with its success as well as the iPhone. The GM Building where it is located is the Premier Class A building of NYC with the best location in all of Manhattan. SJ could not have made a better choice.
It is surrounded by Bergdorf Goodman, FAO Shwarz, the Plaza Hotel, the Pierre Hotel,and Central Park.
Also the cube itself is iconic in its own right. Tourists flock just to see "the cube".
MS should open its store up in the zoo across the street where it belongs.
You forget to mention: that location made no money before Apple showed up. It was extremely poorly laid out with steps (which ate up most of the square footage) leading to below grade shops which no one ever bother to go to. I have to assume Apple got the place for a song.
Typical of Apple, great design created an amazing retail environment. I don't think though that anyone else could have pulled off such a successful underground store.
Yeah, Tim, instead of asking for government handouts (which is, after all, our $$!), how about giving the schools and back-to-school parents a REALLY major one-time price break (instead of just an iPod Touch)?
The gov't has to address the fact that rich districts have 1 to 1.8 computers per child
while poor districts may have one computer for 12 kids
by the 10th gradewhich group is way ahead ?
So obama should get more computers to all kids and any kind of p/c will do .
Its not a handout since we pay tons of taxes and most gets spent on bombs and killing muslims
instead we should spend our money on hardware for children . At least we can buy some maps so usa kids can find england on a world map.
Handout is a stupid turn of phrase meant to slant the talk . good try
5th Avenue means nothing in itself. 5th Avenue runs for miles. Have you ever been to NYC?
5th Ave at the Empire State Building location does not carry the same clout- nor does 5th Ave near the Public Library. Madison Avenue is the real shopping street anyway. This particular location is at the crossroads of business, tourism, and ultra high income residential- completely unique.
I was the accountant for that building- it has always had one of the highest cost per square foot rates in NYC. It is 50 floors high and a block by a full city block long. Its finish is marble not concrete. It always has had an amazing presence in NYC ever since it was built in the sixties. Apple sits where, amongst other stores, Vidal Sasson once had his hair salon back in the mod sixties and seventies.
Yeah but 5th Ave. is not referred to simply "in itself" here. When an 5th Ave location is sited as a descriptive component of a retail location it is understood to imply high-end retail (just like the candy bar or Saks). It is usually not used as a conjunction with some fruit stand on 5th and 22nd.
Why would you ever go to a store that you can't get in the door when the products are available everywhere including online. Once you have seen a mac you have seen them all. Wow Apple people are just a bunch of lemmings.
You forget to mention: that location made no money before Apple showed up. It was extremely poorly laid out with steps (which ate up most of the square footage) leading to below grade shops which no one ever bother to go to. I have to assume Apple got the place for a song.
Typical of Apple, great design created an amazing retail environment. I don't think though that anyone else could have pulled off such a successful underground store.
Not true. Most of sq ft of that location was not even rentable for years- it was a sunken plaza.. The space and steps were sealed off long before Apple moved in by Donald Trump when he purchased the building and completely redesigned the plaza. The 5th Ave association was very upset by this along with his adding his name to the building sign. Thank god Trump sold it- god only knows if he would have OK'd the cube.
That location has always been a draw. However, Sj and Apple had the vision on what to do with the space by topping it off with the cube- which SJ owns. I extremely doubt that Apple is paying low rent at that location when the tenants pay the highest cost per sq ft in NYC.
Yeah but 5th Ave. is not referred to simply "in itself" here. When an 5th Ave location is sited as a descriptive component of a retail location it is understood to imply high-end retail (just like the candy bar or Saks). It is usually not used as a conjunction with some fruit stand on 5th and 22nd.
You're not getting it- this location is the best possible location in NYC- bar none. I've worked in real estate here for over 25 years. Saks Fifth Avenue's location is not even as good and that's across the street from Rockefeller Center. It's all about the 5th Avenue address of this paricular location.
Who would have thought that an excellent location and desirable products would help a retail company sell their wares? Talk about pointing out the obvious. I bet you were one of the people that were saying Apple is foolish for opening up such expensive retail stores at all, much less in such high rent areas, when companies like Gateway had already failed at it.
Not at all- facts are facts. It's not that obvious-if sales numbers like that were reported at another location on 6th Avenue - now that would be truly amazing. It's not even that great of a store inside. Soho NY has a much better layout. The loocation really does add to the story. I'm not trying to downplay Apple's products at all- just whoever steared Apple to that location deserves a lot of credit.
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MS should open its store up in the zoo across the street where it belongs.
LOL! Just keep MS away from the Snow Leopards in there.
Microsoft is a completely different kind of company. The ways Microsoft makes its money, do not require stores. In fact they try to stay out of the public spotlight.
Then why is Microsoft copying Apple and opening up their own store to compete with Apple? They will never have the same cachet as Apple's stores because MS doesn't selling computers.
The article fails to mention that the location of that store has a lot to do with its success as well as the iPhone. The GM Building where it is located is the Premier Class A building of NYC with the best location in all of Manhattan. SJ could not have made a better choice.
It is surrounded by Bergdorf Goodman, FAO Shwarz, the Plaza Hotel, the Pierre Hotel,and Central Park.
Also the cube itself is iconic in its own right. Tourists flock just to see "the cube".
MS should open its store up in the zoo across the street where it belongs.
You forget to mention: that location made no money before Apple showed up. It was extremely poorly laid out with steps (which ate up most of the square footage) leading to below grade shops which no one ever bother to go to. I have to assume Apple got the place for a song.
Typical of Apple, great design created an amazing retail environment. I don't think though that anyone else could have pulled off such a successful underground store.
I have to assume Apple got the place for a song.
Perhaps we should qualify that with, ?...relatively speaking for that area."
Yeah, Tim, instead of asking for government handouts (which is, after all, our $$!), how about giving the schools and back-to-school parents a REALLY major one-time price break (instead of just an iPod Touch)?
The gov't has to address the fact that rich districts have 1 to 1.8 computers per child
while poor districts may have one computer for 12 kids
by the 10th gradewhich group is way ahead ?
So obama should get more computers to all kids and any kind of p/c will do .
Its not a handout since we pay tons of taxes and most gets spent on bombs and killing muslims
instead we should spend our money on hardware for children . At least we can buy some maps so usa kids can find england on a world map.
Handout is a stupid turn of phrase meant to slant the talk . good try
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5th Avenue means nothing in itself. 5th Avenue runs for miles. Have you ever been to NYC?
5th Ave at the Empire State Building location does not carry the same clout- nor does 5th Ave near the Public Library. Madison Avenue is the real shopping street anyway. This particular location is at the crossroads of business, tourism, and ultra high income residential- completely unique.
I was the accountant for that building- it has always had one of the highest cost per square foot rates in NYC. It is 50 floors high and a block by a full city block long. Its finish is marble not concrete. It always has had an amazing presence in NYC ever since it was built in the sixties. Apple sits where, amongst other stores, Vidal Sasson once had his hair salon back in the mod sixties and seventies.
Yeah but 5th Ave. is not referred to simply "in itself" here. When an 5th Ave location is sited as a descriptive component of a retail location it is understood to imply high-end retail (just like the candy bar or Saks). It is usually not used as a conjunction with some fruit stand on 5th and 22nd.
Why would you ever go to a store that you can't get in the door when the products are available everywhere including online. Once you have seen a mac you have seen them all. Wow Apple people are just a bunch of lemmings.
Wow. Great first post.
No, really; brilliant.
Wow, and all this time, I thought K Street was a rampant Mafia den!
Well you're both right... cept instead of calling them Dons, Underbosses and Consigliere's we give them tiles like Senator, Congressman or Judge!
You forget to mention: that location made no money before Apple showed up. It was extremely poorly laid out with steps (which ate up most of the square footage) leading to below grade shops which no one ever bother to go to. I have to assume Apple got the place for a song.
Typical of Apple, great design created an amazing retail environment. I don't think though that anyone else could have pulled off such a successful underground store.
Not true. Most of sq ft of that location was not even rentable for years- it was a sunken plaza.. The space and steps were sealed off long before Apple moved in by Donald Trump when he purchased the building and completely redesigned the plaza. The 5th Ave association was very upset by this along with his adding his name to the building sign. Thank god Trump sold it- god only knows if he would have OK'd the cube.
That location has always been a draw. However, Sj and Apple had the vision on what to do with the space by topping it off with the cube- which SJ owns. I extremely doubt that Apple is paying low rent at that location when the tenants pay the highest cost per sq ft in NYC.
Yeah but 5th Ave. is not referred to simply "in itself" here. When an 5th Ave location is sited as a descriptive component of a retail location it is understood to imply high-end retail (just like the candy bar or Saks). It is usually not used as a conjunction with some fruit stand on 5th and 22nd.
You're not getting it- this location is the best possible location in NYC- bar none. I've worked in real estate here for over 25 years. Saks Fifth Avenue's location is not even as good and that's across the street from Rockefeller Center. It's all about the 5th Avenue address of this paricular location.
Who would have thought that an excellent location and desirable products would help a retail company sell their wares?
Not at all- facts are facts. It's not that obvious-if sales numbers like that were reported at another location on 6th Avenue - now that would be truly amazing. It's not even that great of a store inside. Soho NY has a much better layout. The loocation really does add to the story. I'm not trying to downplay Apple's products at all- just whoever steared Apple to that location deserves a lot of credit.
Does the $340,000 just represent people's salaries standing in a picket line ... or, as I guess, is it really a wining and dining of the politicians?
It's legal, but it seems a bit shady. I guess that's the American Mindset.
Wow. Great first post.
No, really; brilliant.
Seems the lemming is also following mac. (Why the H.E. double hockey sticks is he even here??)
You're not getting it- this location is the best possible location in NYC- bar none.
I thought that was the intersection of 57th/Fifth, sometimes referred to as the center of the Universe.