As Apple preps multi-touch mouse, Microsoft shows off its own

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  • Reply 61 of 102
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    Originally Posted by NeilM View Post


    It's amusing that, once again, defensive MS feels the need to show vapourware as some kind of attempted counter to anyone else having a good idea.



    That's EXACTLY what I was gonna say. . Geez, they must be REALLY shakin' in dem boots. I wonder if they realize how sad and obvious it is.
  • Reply 62 of 102
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    Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post


    And the pot officially calls the kettle black.



    I think you got the verbal diarrhoea market pretty much sewn up teckdude.



    You can tell a person from their spelling, Teckstud is from US/American English speaking country (diarrhea) and Gazoobee is from UK English speaking country, since he spells the same word with o (diarrhoea).

    Both have something in common, wonder what that is
  • Reply 63 of 102
    cubertcubert Posts: 728member
    MeTooSoft reminds me of one of your friend's little brothers when you were growing up - always tagging along asking, "Hey, hey, can I come. Can I play, too. Huh? Huh? Come on guys!"
  • Reply 64 of 102
    teckstudteckstud Posts: 6,476member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post


    And the pot officially calls the kettle black.



    I think you got the verbal diarrhoea market pretty much sewn up teckdude.



    And who asked for your two pence's worth?
  • Reply 65 of 102
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    Originally Posted by Rot'nApple View Post


    Did you ever use the egg shell iMac hockey puck design mouse that Apple had when it came out? Awful!! Absolutely worthless! It's stashed in a drawer in my desk... Stylish maybe, worst "feel in the palm of one's hand", though.



    And the mighty mouse... too sensitive, every session on my computer, I have to watch the widget screen pop up or expose whip away my open windows all because I needed to move my mouse.



    Apple may have neutral reviews on their mice, but that's because they are not worth writing about. Apple gets too artsy fartsy with them for my taste and seems to place form over function when creating them! One day, I hope Apple has a worthwhile product.



    I never use one. I never bought an iMac for myself. My wife and son have used both. Never heard them complain.



    I just called colleague of mine that services one of our largest school boards in the area and asked him how many mouses have they bought in the past 5 years. Answer, "Can't remember. We use the mouse that comes with the computer. In fact some of them are more than ten years old, and if we need to, we buy the cheapest one available."



    Since I got my Logitech MX two years ago, I have bought 2 MacBook Pros and 2 iMacs. I have plans to buy another MacBook Pro within the next 4 months. My Logitech will have continue to be on my desktop next to my short Apple keyboard and infront of my 28" monitor. It just fits perfectly.
  • Reply 66 of 102
    teckstudteckstud Posts: 6,476member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by souliisoul View Post


    You can tell a person from their spelling, Teckstud is from US/American English speaking country (diarrhea) and Gazoobee is from UK English speaking country, since he spells the same word with o (diarrhoea).

    Both have something in common, wonder what that is



    Both know how to spell "the runs" in their respective dialects, my friend
  • Reply 67 of 102
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    Originally Posted by teckstud View Post


    Both know how to spell "the runs" in their respective dialects, my friend



    Both love Apple Mac
  • Reply 68 of 102
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    Originally Posted by macmondo View Post


    excuse me? I said it looked like a prototype, I didn't mention usability. My opinion was about the ugly looks of that brown Zune.



    And for me, I value usability over aesthetics (I think the thing has to be designed well enough, which I think the Zune is. It works well too. Nothing amazing or jaw dropping, but it definitely works well!) and is one of the reasons I stay AWAY from Apple's computers (they are too underpowered for what they look like!)



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    Originally Posted by macmondo View Post


    And about the MS mouse. Using it with macs it's quite annoying when returning from sleep mode the MS mouse doesn't come back to life. I have to disconnect and reconnect its USB cable to bring it back to work.



    I found that regardless of brand, if one has a mouse plugged into a cheap un-powered USB hub that is plugged into a Mac (or computer running Mac OS X), when the machine comes out of sleep, the mouse will not respond. I suggest trying to plug the mouse into a USB port on the machine itself. Of course, you may have that done already, and in that case I would give MS a call, or bring your Mac into an Apple Store for help. (Oddly, I've never had the issue with Windows or Linux)
  • Reply 69 of 102
    teckstudteckstud Posts: 6,476member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by souliisoul View Post


    Both love Apple Mac



    very good

    Have we determined why Vonage app never made the front page of topics yet MS mouse prototypes have?
  • Reply 70 of 102
    teckstudteckstud Posts: 6,476member
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    Originally Posted by JupiterOne View Post


    Do you mean this AI article? Or do you mean a review?



    Why no posts on it and why not a thread?
  • Reply 71 of 102
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    Originally Posted by Roc Ingersol View Post


    I've been starting to wonder if this is going to become their standard press move: the press whips itself into a fury about a possible Apple product, so Microsoft points people toward a similar research idea they toyed with and discarded years ago.



    I'm not sure what the up-side is for Microsoft though. Do they really want to draw attention to the fact that they spend ungodly amounts of money on very interesting research yet their business proper is consistently incapable of turning those ideas and prototypes into quality products?



    ...



    Communications takes it as an opportunity to get the corporate name into the media while attempting to link the company brand with innovation into the gullible mind. Marketing wants to derail the competition's recent marketing impetus. Operations wants to forestall purchases of competitor products and buy time. Like spiteful politics, it is somewhat effective, though not in the consumer's best interest.
  • Reply 72 of 102
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    Originally Posted by teckstud View Post


    very good

    Have we determined why Vonage app never made the front page of topics yet MS mouse prototypes have?



    Look at the front page about Skype approval (maybe) by AT&T on iPhone!
  • Reply 73 of 102
    nasseraenasserae Posts: 3,167member
    The only problem I have with the Mighty Mouse is the scroll wheel/ball. Apple should replace it with a touch area/button instead of physical wheel/ball.
  • Reply 74 of 102
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    Originally Posted by camroidv27 View Post


    And for me, I value usability over aesthetics



    we started at the point that those prototypes in the picture looks so ugly. Then some told, yes but prototypes don't necessarely have to look as the final product. Then I said that actually there was a product that was not prototype and looks as ugly as these, the Zune.

    I didn't want to start discussions about the usability of the Zune...





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    Originally Posted by camroidv27 View Post


    I found that regardless of brand, if one has a mouse plugged into a cheap un-powered USB hub that is plugged into a Mac (or computer running Mac OS X), when the machine comes out of sleep, the mouse will not respond. I suggest trying to plug the mouse into a USB port on the machine itself. Of course, you may have that done already, and in that case I would give MS a call, or bring your Mac into an Apple Store for help. (Oddly, I've never had the issue with Windows or Linux)



    sorry, but you're totally wrong. Right now I'm using a cheap Logitech RX250 mouse plugged into an old apple extended keyboard (that came with a PM G4 many years ago). And even the keyboard isn't plugged directly to my MBP, but to a simple USB-hub that goes to the mac. And the computer comes out of sleep 10-20 times a day and I've never had this problem.

    I only experienced it in our office where my colegue has been using a MS mouse that showed this issue. When I asked him to replace it to any other brand, since that it just worked fine.



    So I don't think it's regardless of brand.
  • Reply 75 of 102
    I just don't 'get' the concept of a multi-touch mouse.



    So I've got a hunk of plastic that I move around on my desk, and I'm supposed to move my fingers around on top of it, too? What? That's stupid.
  • Reply 76 of 102
    teckstudteckstud Posts: 6,476member
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    Originally Posted by FuturePastNow View Post


    I just don't 'get' the concept of a multi-touch mouse.



    So I've got a hunk of plastic that I move around on my desk, and I'm supposed to move my fingers around on top of it, too? What? That's stupid.



    Right? Just give me a laptop square glass pad. That's all you need.
  • Reply 77 of 102
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    Originally Posted by teckstud View Post


    Right? Just give me a laptop square glass pad. That's all you need.



    That is what I want, too. Replace the number pad on the keyboard (sorry, lefties).
  • Reply 78 of 102
    sdbryansdbryan Posts: 351member
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    Originally Posted by teckstud View Post


    I thought Microsoft utilized the 2 button concept before Apple - am I missing something?



    Apple has supported multi-button mice forever in its api's. So "power users" have had the option to purchase a third party mouse and take advantage of it in essentially all software including software from Apple (I had a two button optical mouse for my Mac Plus in 1987). But from a design standpoint Apple (or more specifically Steve Jobs) was adamant about avoiding any unnecessary complication for the majority of computer users who really object to complexity being the norm. So all Macs come with a single button mouse which means most programmers design their apps so they are easily usable without requiring a multi-button mouse.



    As multi-touch interfaces start to spread far and wide it seems possible that Jobs was right that multi-button mice were a dead end. Maybe in a year or so this will be clearer.
  • Reply 79 of 102
    anonymouseanonymouse Posts: 6,854member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by FuturePastNow View Post


    That is what I want, too. Replace the number pad on the keyboard (sorry, lefties).



    Why stop there? Replace the whole keyboard with a virtual keyboard/trackpad/custom input layout. Lefties and everyone else can reconfigure as desired.
  • Reply 80 of 102
    oc4theooc4theo Posts: 294member
    If this is a mouse, I will just use my f....king fingers. They are so ugly, I will never touch any of them.

    These retards at Microsoft have no shame! I can't believe they will actually put these pictures for anyone to see. Disgusting!
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