I guess you are not old enough to remember that back in the late 70's and early 80's, teens thought Sony was the most admired company after they introduced the Sony Walkman. The Sony Walkman was everywhere, just as popular as the iPod, and every teen wanted one. That is the only reason why they think Jobs is cool. It is not disturbing news, it is just obvious news.
He founds a company that brought the computer to the masses, leaves it until it goes down the tube from mismanagement, come back to lead it, does not resort to massive layoffs but to innovation and makes it one of the most, if not the most iconic company of this decade.
BTW, all these teens will be buying macs when they become adults. Go AAPL.
Get your facts straight. He didn't leave, he was fired after the board held a coup to get rid of him. Apple bought NeXT, which Jobs was part of that deal, since he owned NeXT. He did resort to massive layoffs by wiping out the crippled management team and replaced it with his own people. The iMac revived Apple three years before the iPod was released. Most teens with an iPod already own a Mac.
Get your facts straight. He didn't leave, he was fired after the board held a coup to get rid of him. Apple bought NeXT, which Jobs was part of that deal, since he owned NeXT. He did resort to massive layoffs by wiping out the crippled management team and replaced it with his own people. The iMac revived Apple three years before the iPod was released. Most teens with an iPod already own a Mac.
A bit harsh, but I agree.
Steve spent 10 years in the 'wilderness' messing with Next and buying Pixar. Must have been an excruciating period in his life. To be fired from your own company. I can't believe he doesn't harbor bitterness to the Board of Directors....with each Apple success it must be bittersweet for him.
Really, really inappropriate. This is the kind of garbage I'd expect to see on MacRumors or Neowin. Not here.
Stupid idea, whoever you are. You might not always agree with Teckstud, but this sort of name-calling and baiting is a new low. If you want to debate, then debate. That's par for the course. But this is just pathetic.
Really, really inappropriate. This is the kind of garbage I'd expect to see on MacRumors or Neowin. Not here.
Stupid idea, whoever you are. You might not always agree with Teckstud, but this sort of name-calling and baiting is a new low. If you want to debate, then debate. That's par for the course. But this is just pathetic.
I have to agree with Quadra610 and add ZDNet to that garbage pile too.
This is the kind of garbage I'd expect to see on MacRumors or Neowin. Not here.
That is why it is here. AppleInsider has the same garbage as those other sites. TeckStud has earned his reputation based on his comments on products he never owns, and has no first hand experience with. His comments are equally unreliable as the articles posted here. He hates everything. You can't debate with him, it is pointless because he has no evidence to back anything up. But sometimes his comments are rather amusing.
You should enroll in a basic statistics class at a local community college, before making statements like that.
A sample of 1000 randomly selected people from amongst a population of 300 million would result in a sampling error of (roughly) plus-or-minus 3% (for a 95% confidence interval).
Google something like "statistical sampling" and take it from there.....
Really, really inappropriate. This is the kind of garbage I'd expect to see on MacRumors or Neowin. Not here.
Stupid idea, whoever you are. You might not always agree with Teckstud, but this sort of name-calling and baiting is a new low. If you want to debate, then debate. That's par for the course. But this is just pathetic.
Sometimes, we all need to have a bit of a sense of humor..... I actually thought it was funny!
"We live in a celebrity-obsessed culture, so it's no surprise that teens admire famous entrepreneurs like Steve Jobs and Oprah Winfrey, who have built brands around their personas as well as around their products," said Jack Kosakowski, president of Junior Achievement USA.
Sorry, Jack, but that's a bit off. 1) Oprah Winfrey IS a celebrity. I don't want to discredit her entrepreneurial achievements, but her fame is what runs her business. 2) Steve Jobs, despite what both Apple and Windows fanboys may claim, does NOT inject his persona into his products. He's all but missing from the Pixar credits (they do not say, A Steve Jobs Production!) And he has never appeared in a single Apple ad. His name is nowhere to be found on any Apple products. Compare and contrast with Michael Dell, Hewlett-Packard, Ford, or Bose.
Sorry, Jack, but that's a bit off. 1) Oprah Winfrey IS a celebrity. I don't want to discredit her entrepreneurial achievements, but her fame is what runs her business. 2) Steve Jobs, despite what both Apple and Windows fanboys may claim, does NOT inject his persona into his products. He's all but missing from the Pixar credits (they do not say, A Steve Jobs Production!) And he has never appeared in a single Apple ad. His name is nowhere to be found on any Apple products. Compare and contrast with Michael Dell, Hewlett-Packard, Ford, or Bose.
Really, really inappropriate. This is the kind of garbage I'd expect to see on MacRumors or Neowin. Not here.
Stupid idea, whoever you are. You might not always agree with Teckstud, but this sort of name-calling and baiting is a new low. If you want to debate, then debate. That's par for the course. But this is just pathetic.
You missed the point; he's gayfor teckstud. It's a a romantic gesture; he's in love. How sweet.
Not to sound like a frat boy who just had a good time with a sorority girl, but I think teckstud kinda liked it anyway. (?)
Regardless I know all about terrible names, you should change it. We can't change them can we?
Isn't Difficult but possible and Somewhat challenging vagely similar?
I mean, if something is difficult but possible, it's most probably challenging, right? Maybe it's my bad English not detecting the two alternatives as clearly different
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This is really disturbing news.
I guess you are not old enough to remember that back in the late 70's and early 80's, teens thought Sony was the most admired company after they introduced the Sony Walkman. The Sony Walkman was everywhere, just as popular as the iPod, and every teen wanted one. That is the only reason why they think Jobs is cool. It is not disturbing news, it is just obvious news.
He founds a company that brought the computer to the masses, leaves it until it goes down the tube from mismanagement, come back to lead it, does not resort to massive layoffs but to innovation and makes it one of the most, if not the most iconic company of this decade.
BTW, all these teens will be buying macs when they become adults. Go AAPL.
Get your facts straight. He didn't leave, he was fired after the board held a coup to get rid of him. Apple bought NeXT, which Jobs was part of that deal, since he owned NeXT. He did resort to massive layoffs by wiping out the crippled management team and replaced it with his own people. The iMac revived Apple three years before the iPod was released. Most teens with an iPod already own a Mac.
I have a hard time believing that the average American teenager even knows who makes the iPod
Teenagers are smarter than you. They are not idiots. They know who makes the iPod.
When you see Steve Jobs lumped in with The Olsen Twins and The Oprah as most admired don't you find that slightly disturbing?
I'd bet NEWBEE was part of the survey.
Just what disturbs you? --Everything?
Love the username!
Get your facts straight. He didn't leave, he was fired after the board held a coup to get rid of him. Apple bought NeXT, which Jobs was part of that deal, since he owned NeXT. He did resort to massive layoffs by wiping out the crippled management team and replaced it with his own people. The iMac revived Apple three years before the iPod was released. Most teens with an iPod already own a Mac.
A bit harsh, but I agree.
Steve spent 10 years in the 'wilderness' messing with Next and buying Pixar. Must have been an excruciating period in his life. To be fired from your own company. I can't believe he doesn't harbor bitterness to the Board of Directors....with each Apple success it must be bittersweet for him.
Hyperbole much?
Uh, what? "gayforteckstud"??
Really, really inappropriate. This is the kind of garbage I'd expect to see on MacRumors or Neowin. Not here.
Stupid idea, whoever you are. You might not always agree with Teckstud, but this sort of name-calling and baiting is a new low. If you want to debate, then debate. That's par for the course. But this is just pathetic.
Uh, what? "gayforteckstud"??
Really, really inappropriate. This is the kind of garbage I'd expect to see on MacRumors or Neowin. Not here.
Stupid idea, whoever you are. You might not always agree with Teckstud, but this sort of name-calling and baiting is a new low. If you want to debate, then debate. That's par for the course. But this is just pathetic.
I have to agree with Quadra610 and add ZDNet to that garbage pile too.
I have to agree with Quadra610 and add ZDNet to that garbage pile too.
I'd rather be 'depressed' than 'gay!'
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This is the kind of garbage I'd expect to see on MacRumors or Neowin. Not here.
That is why it is here. AppleInsider has the same garbage as those other sites. TeckStud has earned his reputation based on his comments on products he never owns, and has no first hand experience with. His comments are equally unreliable as the articles posted here. He hates everything. You can't debate with him, it is pointless because he has no evidence to back anything up. But sometimes his comments are rather amusing.
1,000 samples isn't a very reliable survey.
You should enroll in a basic statistics class at a local community college, before making statements like that.
A sample of 1000 randomly selected people from amongst a population of 300 million would result in a sampling error of (roughly) plus-or-minus 3% (for a 95% confidence interval).
Google something like "statistical sampling" and take it from there.....
Uh, what? "gayforteckstud"??
Really, really inappropriate. This is the kind of garbage I'd expect to see on MacRumors or Neowin. Not here.
Stupid idea, whoever you are. You might not always agree with Teckstud, but this sort of name-calling and baiting is a new low. If you want to debate, then debate. That's par for the course. But this is just pathetic.
Sometimes, we all need to have a bit of a sense of humor..... I actually thought it was funny!
"We live in a celebrity-obsessed culture, so it's no surprise that teens admire famous entrepreneurs like Steve Jobs and Oprah Winfrey, who have built brands around their personas as well as around their products," said Jack Kosakowski, president of Junior Achievement USA.
Sorry, Jack, but that's a bit off. 1) Oprah Winfrey IS a celebrity. I don't want to discredit her entrepreneurial achievements, but her fame is what runs her business. 2) Steve Jobs, despite what both Apple and Windows fanboys may claim, does NOT inject his persona into his products. He's all but missing from the Pixar credits (they do not say, A Steve Jobs Production!) And he has never appeared in a single Apple ad. His name is nowhere to be found on any Apple products. Compare and contrast with Michael Dell, Hewlett-Packard, Ford, or Bose.
Sorry, Jack, but that's a bit off. 1) Oprah Winfrey IS a celebrity. I don't want to discredit her entrepreneurial achievements, but her fame is what runs her business. 2) Steve Jobs, despite what both Apple and Windows fanboys may claim, does NOT inject his persona into his products. He's all but missing from the Pixar credits (they do not say, A Steve Jobs Production!) And he has never appeared in a single Apple ad. His name is nowhere to be found on any Apple products. Compare and contrast with Michael Dell, Hewlett-Packard, Ford, or Bose.
Terrific post. Well put.
He's all but missing from the Pixar credits (they do not say, A Steve Jobs Production!)
They don't say a Steve Jobs Production, but he is in the credits, given proper credit where it is due.
They don't say a Steve Jobs Production, but he is in the credits, given proper credit where it is due.
Often fairly obscured. Thus the 'all but missing' part.
Uh, what? "gayforteckstud"??
Really, really inappropriate. This is the kind of garbage I'd expect to see on MacRumors or Neowin. Not here.
Stupid idea, whoever you are. You might not always agree with Teckstud, but this sort of name-calling and baiting is a new low. If you want to debate, then debate. That's par for the course. But this is just pathetic.
You missed the point; he's gayfor teckstud. It's a a romantic gesture; he's in love. How sweet.
Not to sound like a frat boy who just had a good time with a sorority girl, but I think teckstud kinda liked it anyway. (?)
Regardless I know all about terrible names, you should change it. We can't change them can we?
Steve has a better 720.
This is really disturbing news.
Hell TeckDud, everything is disturbing news to you. Why would this be any different?
Isn't Difficult but possible and Somewhat challenging vagely similar?
I mean, if something is difficult but possible, it's most probably challenging, right? Maybe it's my bad English not detecting the two alternatives as clearly different
Are you even in the right thread?
When you see Steve Jobs lumped in with The Olsen Twins and The Oprah as most admired don't you find that slightly disturbing?
I'd bet NEWBEE was part of the survey.
Sorry to disappoint you TeckDud ... I was still having my nap .... but I'm back now! ..... Bring it!