I am kinda feeling sorry for you. It seems that nothing from Apple works for you.
In this situation he has a point. Major WiFi bug yet to be fixed for the last three iPhone software updates. Many people effected. Thousands of complaints on Twitter and on the Apple discussion boards. Effects both my iPhones on any WiFi network. Bug is in the OS. My 2G loses WiFi often now, and my 3G hasn't had any WiFi for about a month. One of these days they'll fix this bug. I heard someone mention it's directly related to the overheating issues, which obviously Apple would never admit to. At this stage I wouldn't be surprised, though I personally think it's a simple yet elusive software bug.
Until they fix it I won't be recommending the iPhone to anyone. Where bugs are concerned in the Mac OS I always seem to escape, but not with the iPhone OS it seems.
I'm leery of TMs, seeing that many are dying a heat-death about 18 months old. I think I'll go with Airport Extreme + disk. AE has external power brick but it's off in a corner so I don't have to look at it.
I take your point.... I've read this also. I do have a backup for my iMac on my MacBook, MobileMe, iPhone, and the ext. HD. Also, make a DVD of just photos once in awhile. I would also get the AppleCare.
That's cool that you have such a streamlined system working like that for you actually. I have other needs musically and visually and with my system that requires more sophisticated equipment- not to put your set up down. Enjoy.
Where bugs are concerned in the Mac OS I always seem to escape, but not with the iPhone OS it seems.
I have been spared the iPhone 3.1 thing, but had it bad with the OSX 10.4 (or was it 10.5?) wifi bug on my mb. Unbelievably frustrating what with dropped connections every few minutes. And it didn't happen on XP which made it even worse. I hard wired my iMac and printer to play safe. Now, they're all wifi and everybody's happy as pigs in shit. Speaking of which I wonder how the boys and girls at Bluetooth (?) feel about this new proposed standard?
I am kinda feeling sorry for you. It seems that nothing from Apple works for you.
Yet, by all accounts as determined by consumer survey reports, the successes of virtually all of Apples softwares, OS's and hardware, the Apple Store, iTunes and the iPhone, although there have been some glitches, doesn't appear to be the norm.
Yet, you experience otherwise. But then, we know that you are not the norm.
More importantly, you always seem to be at the head of the pack. A rabid infested pack at that.
Perhaps it is best you travel elsewhere. Let us know. We may just like to contribute to your new surroundings. At least, it is something that we can do for our fellow man.
SO IGNORE ME and spare me your ridiculous analogies and fanbot paranoia mentality.
I have a good rapport with others on here - I could care less what you think.
TeckDud, I think the "good rapport with others on here", along with so much of the "important and insightful " opinions that you delight in sharing, exists only in your mind. Haven't you figured it out yet? You're behaving like the "boy who cried wolf" and every time you sling mud at Apple, just for the sake of slinging, well, it just cheapens your posts even further. People here are starting to catch on and at this rate you'll soon have zero relevance whatsoever. Reading your posts is like watching a train wreck in slow motion. So sad ... so sad.
TeckDud, I think the "good rapport with others on here", along with so much of the "important and insightful " opinions that you delight in sharing, exists only in your mind. Haven't you figured it out yet? You're behaving like the "boy who cried wolf" and every time you sling mud at Apple, just for the sake of slinging, well, it just cheapens your posts even further. People here are starting to catch on and at this rate you'll soon have zero relevance whatsoever. Reading your posts is like watching a train wreck in slow motion. So sad ... so sad.
Dude, 2 posts from you and nothing added to the thread or discussion yet I'm sad.
All my posts at least stick to the topic on hand and not childish personal attacks like you do NEWBEE.
Hhmmm. Seems that Airport Extreme + disk is NOT supported for TM. I thought I remembered seeing that it was but that's incorrect. Sorry for the misleading comment.
It's about time. This will be a peer-to-peer standard that means you don't need a wlan and don't have to disconnect machines to communicate with a device.
I already use the direct Mac to Mac wifi connection as it's much faster than going through a router but the obvious downside is the manual connection every time.
I'm very much looking forward to wifi mice with no lag or dongle. I just hope the battery life holds up. I know my iphone only lasts an hour or so on wifi.
Excellent, I suppose this improves wireless sync technology,
Personally, I sync all of my address book/cal/notes/etcetc with my laptop every chance I get,
so I hope wireless sync is incorporated into the iPhone soon.
Then my iPhone'll be up to par with my old Nokia.
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Originally Posted by cwfrederick
its hard to ignore you when youre constantly bitching on every topic. STFU troll.
Sorry to interject, but I'm having quite the difficulty identifying who the troll actually is on these forums.
Are you having trouble finding the ignore function?
In reference to how Apple does things, I politely request that one of the mods take initiative and create a video tutorial of this important feature. Or would you prefer a one-on-one?
..e. You, like all of your ilk, latch onto a minority of anecdotal reports (from unamed and unverified sources) and present them as gospel and widespread....
I have definitely had problems with wifi on first and third generation iPod touches. This is with the most recent Apple Extreme N router. But this is radio technology in a potentially noisy environment so I am not scandalized. I'd be very pleased if Apple turned on the N radio in the 3G iPod touch which might alleviate some of the problem.
Those issues are not connected to this promising announcement. Using the wifi radios in devices to set up a mesh network clearly has great potential as wifi becomes ever more ubiquitous. I'm surprised and pleased that the industry continues to move in this direction.
Excellent, I suppose this improves wireless sync technology,
Personally, I sync all of my address book/cal/notes/etcetc with my laptop every chance I get,
so I hope wireless sync is incorporated into the iPhone soon.
Then my iPhone'll be up to par with my old Nokia.
Sorry to interject, but I'm having quite the difficulty identifying who the troll actually is on these forums.
Are you having trouble finding the ignore function?
In reference to how Apple does things, I politely request that one of the mods take initiative and create a video tutorial of this important feature. Or would you prefer a one-on-one?
yes, actually. i was not aware of this function, and probably neither are most people.
i politely accept your one-on-one tutorial offer. please meet me at the top of the nearest tall building.
In this situation he has a point. Major WiFi bug yet to be fixed for the last three iPhone software updates. Many people effected. Thousands of complaints on Twitter and on the Apple discussion boards. Effects both my iPhones on any WiFi network. Bug is in the OS. My 2G loses WiFi often now, and my 3G hasn't had any WiFi for about a month. One of these days they'll fix this bug. I heard someone mention it's directly related to the overheating issues, which obviously Apple would never admit to. At this stage I wouldn't be surprised, though I personally think it's a simple yet elusive software bug.
Until they fix it I won't be recommending the iPhone to anyone. Where bugs are concerned in the Mac OS I always seem to escape, but not with the iPhone OS it seems.
Why don't you just return it to Apple, get a refund and buy a device that actually works then?
So what is different with this from ad hoc mode (IBSS) that has been in WiFi since the beginning?
I could speculate but I'd rather know the truth thanks...
my understanding is that right now two devices, say your computer and your printer, need a router device to speak. but under Direct, they can talk directly to each other, even without there being a router around.
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Originally Posted by teckstud
You mean to tell me that you haven't heard from anyone else here that there is a WiFi problem with the iPhone's 3.1 update?
the trouble with such posts on boards such as this is that, rather like the Nielsen TV Ratings System, they do not account for everyone. A show that is said to get 1 million viewers didn't actually have all those viewers counted. it was more like 100 viewers in the sample. for all we know those 100 people were the only ones watching said show.
by the same token, the folks that post on blogs like this could be the only ones, for all we know, having a particular problem. the other X million iphone users could be going just fine.
I certainly don't know of any problems the 30 or so folks I know with an iphone have had with their wifi and this is a bunch of junkies that update their software within the first week so I'm pretty sure they are all on 3.1 (a good 25 of them for sure)
Why don't you just return it to Apple, get a refund and buy a device that actually works then?
No thanks, some people have already tried that twice and still get the issue. As I say it's not a hardware issue, it's a software one. Apple are going to have to find the issue too, or the iPhone rep. will take a hit.
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How about giving me a WiFI now for my iPhone that holds.
Or any WiFi whatsoever.
I am kinda feeling sorry for you. It seems that nothing from Apple works for you.
In this situation he has a point. Major WiFi bug yet to be fixed for the last three iPhone software updates. Many people effected. Thousands of complaints on Twitter and on the Apple discussion boards. Effects both my iPhones on any WiFi network. Bug is in the OS. My 2G loses WiFi often now, and my 3G hasn't had any WiFi for about a month. One of these days they'll fix this bug. I heard someone mention it's directly related to the overheating issues, which obviously Apple would never admit to. At this stage I wouldn't be surprised, though I personally think it's a simple yet elusive software bug.
Until they fix it I won't be recommending the iPhone to anyone. Where bugs are concerned in the Mac OS I always seem to escape, but not with the iPhone OS it seems.
I'm leery of TMs, seeing that many are dying a heat-death about 18 months old. I think I'll go with Airport Extreme + disk. AE has external power brick but it's off in a corner so I don't have to look at it.
I take your point.... I've read this also. I do have a backup for my iMac on my MacBook, MobileMe, iPhone, and the ext. HD. Also, make a DVD of just photos once in awhile. I would also get the AppleCare.
Thanks for the heads up.
That's cool that you have such a streamlined system working like that for you actually. I have other needs musically and visually and with my system that requires more sophisticated equipment- not to put your set up down. Enjoy.
thx!
Where bugs are concerned in the Mac OS I always seem to escape, but not with the iPhone OS it seems.
I have been spared the iPhone 3.1 thing, but had it bad with the OSX 10.4 (or was it 10.5?) wifi bug on my mb. Unbelievably frustrating what with dropped connections every few minutes. And it didn't happen on XP which made it even worse. I hard wired my iMac and printer to play safe. Now, they're all wifi and everybody's happy as pigs in shit. Speaking of which I wonder how the boys and girls at Bluetooth (?) feel about this new proposed standard?
I am kinda feeling sorry for you. It seems that nothing from Apple works for you.
Yet, by all accounts as determined by consumer survey reports, the successes of virtually all of Apples softwares, OS's and hardware, the Apple Store, iTunes and the iPhone, although there have been some glitches, doesn't appear to be the norm.
Yet, you experience otherwise. But then, we know that you are not the norm.
More importantly, you always seem to be at the head of the pack. A rabid infested pack at that.
Perhaps it is best you travel elsewhere. Let us know. We may just like to contribute to your new surroundings. At least, it is something that we can do for our fellow man.
Amen to that and I'll be the first to "pony up".
Drivel ,drivel.
SO IGNORE ME and spare me your ridiculous analogies and fanbot paranoia mentality.
I have a good rapport with others on here - I could care less what you think.
TeckDud, I think the "good rapport with others on here", along with so much of the "important and insightful " opinions that you delight in sharing, exists only in your mind. Haven't you figured it out yet? You're behaving like the "boy who cried wolf" and every time you sling mud at Apple, just for the sake of slinging, well, it just cheapens your posts even further. People here are starting to catch on and at this rate you'll soon have zero relevance whatsoever. Reading your posts is like watching a train wreck in slow motion. So sad ... so sad.
Amen to that and I'll be the first to "pony up".
TeckDud, I think the "good rapport with others on here", along with so much of the "important and insightful " opinions that you delight in sharing, exists only in your mind. Haven't you figured it out yet? You're behaving like the "boy who cried wolf" and every time you sling mud at Apple, just for the sake of slinging, well, it just cheapens your posts even further. People here are starting to catch on and at this rate you'll soon have zero relevance whatsoever. Reading your posts is like watching a train wreck in slow motion. So sad ... so sad.
Dude, 2 posts from you and nothing added to the thread or discussion yet I'm sad.
All my posts at least stick to the topic on hand and not childish personal attacks like you do NEWBEE.
I already use the direct Mac to Mac wifi connection as it's much faster than going through a router but the obvious downside is the manual connection every time.
I'm very much looking forward to wifi mice with no lag or dongle. I just hope the battery life holds up. I know my iphone only lasts an hour or so on wifi.
Drivel ,drivel.
SO IGNORE ME and spare me your ridiculous analogies and fanbot paranoia mentality.
I have a good rapport with others on here - I could care less what you think.
its hard to ignore you when youre constantly bitching on every topic. STFU troll.
Stop derailing this thread...
HAHAHAHA! Priceless!
Personally, I sync all of my address book/cal/notes/etcetc with my laptop every chance I get,
so I hope wireless sync is incorporated into the iPhone soon.
Then my iPhone'll be up to par with my old Nokia.
its hard to ignore you when youre constantly bitching on every topic. STFU troll.
Sorry to interject, but I'm having quite the difficulty identifying who the troll actually is on these forums.
Are you having trouble finding the ignore function?
In reference to how Apple does things, I politely request that one of the mods take initiative and create a video tutorial of this important feature. Or would you prefer a one-on-one?
..e. You, like all of your ilk, latch onto a minority of anecdotal reports (from unamed and unverified sources) and present them as gospel and widespread....
I have definitely had problems with wifi on first and third generation iPod touches. This is with the most recent Apple Extreme N router. But this is radio technology in a potentially noisy environment so I am not scandalized. I'd be very pleased if Apple turned on the N radio in the 3G iPod touch which might alleviate some of the problem.
Those issues are not connected to this promising announcement. Using the wifi radios in devices to set up a mesh network clearly has great potential as wifi becomes ever more ubiquitous. I'm surprised and pleased that the industry continues to move in this direction.
Excellent, I suppose this improves wireless sync technology,
Personally, I sync all of my address book/cal/notes/etcetc with my laptop every chance I get,
so I hope wireless sync is incorporated into the iPhone soon.
Then my iPhone'll be up to par with my old Nokia.
Sorry to interject, but I'm having quite the difficulty identifying who the troll actually is on these forums.
Are you having trouble finding the ignore function?
In reference to how Apple does things, I politely request that one of the mods take initiative and create a video tutorial of this important feature. Or would you prefer a one-on-one?
yes, actually. i was not aware of this function, and probably neither are most people.
i politely accept your one-on-one tutorial offer. please meet me at the top of the nearest tall building.
teckstud is clearly a troll.
i politely accept your one-on-one tutorial offer. please meet me at the top of the nearest tall building.
FYI, click the user's name on whichever thread you are viewing.
<user name> => view public profile => user lists => Add to Ignore List
That's too many clicks, perhaps AI should add an 'Ignore' button right next to the reply button on each post
FYI, click the user's name on whichever thread you are viewing.
<user name> => view public profile => user lists => Add to Ignore List
That's too many clicks, perhaps AI should add an 'Ignore' button right next to the reply button on each post
haha, thanks for the tip
In this situation he has a point. Major WiFi bug yet to be fixed for the last three iPhone software updates. Many people effected. Thousands of complaints on Twitter and on the Apple discussion boards. Effects both my iPhones on any WiFi network. Bug is in the OS. My 2G loses WiFi often now, and my 3G hasn't had any WiFi for about a month. One of these days they'll fix this bug. I heard someone mention it's directly related to the overheating issues, which obviously Apple would never admit to. At this stage I wouldn't be surprised, though I personally think it's a simple yet elusive software bug.
Until they fix it I won't be recommending the iPhone to anyone. Where bugs are concerned in the Mac OS I always seem to escape, but not with the iPhone OS it seems.
Why don't you just return it to Apple, get a refund and buy a device that actually works then?
So what is different with this from ad hoc mode (IBSS) that has been in WiFi since the beginning?
I could speculate but I'd rather know the truth thanks...
my understanding is that right now two devices, say your computer and your printer, need a router device to speak. but under Direct, they can talk directly to each other, even without there being a router around.
You mean to tell me that you haven't heard from anyone else here that there is a WiFi problem with the iPhone's 3.1 update?
the trouble with such posts on boards such as this is that, rather like the Nielsen TV Ratings System, they do not account for everyone. A show that is said to get 1 million viewers didn't actually have all those viewers counted. it was more like 100 viewers in the sample. for all we know those 100 people were the only ones watching said show.
by the same token, the folks that post on blogs like this could be the only ones, for all we know, having a particular problem. the other X million iphone users could be going just fine.
I certainly don't know of any problems the 30 or so folks I know with an iphone have had with their wifi and this is a bunch of junkies that update their software within the first week so I'm pretty sure they are all on 3.1 (a good 25 of them for sure)
Why don't you just return it to Apple, get a refund and buy a device that actually works then?
No thanks, some people have already tried that twice and still get the issue. As I say it's not a hardware issue, it's a software one. Apple are going to have to find the issue too, or the iPhone rep. will take a hit.