you mean the appletv is a total failure - a 3 year old "hobby" which only apple fanbois are buying. Appletv's technology is old and stale. Hdtvs and blu-ray players have basically all of its wireless features and then some built into them now. A sad failure for apple due to their itunes greed.
You mean the AppleTV is a TOTAL Failure - a 3 year old "hobby" which only Apple fanbois are buying. AppleTV's technology is old and stale. HDTVs and Blu-ray players have basically all of its wireless features and then some built into them now. A sad failure for Apple due to their iTunes greed.
That's a ridiculous overstatement. I am an AppleTV consumer since Day 1, who -- except for this incident, which I consider to be a major screw-up -- has got exactly what he expected from it. If that's a 'fonboi', big deal. (Although, I'd expect, by now, for you to be slightly less of a cliche, unfortunately you always seem to revert to type. You just can't help it.)
If it's 'old and stale' and gets overtaken by others, so be it. That won't be because you say so or want it to be so. At the moment, there is isn't enough bandwidth in the pipes to stream Blu-ray and such, so it's wishful thinking. Even if there were the bandwidth, no one today offers the simplicity of UI that AppleTV does. If someone does, please tell us who, how much it costs, and where I can buy/download it on to my existing A/V set-up (which is reasonably fancy and current, so I don't want to spend $$$ buying a new one).
It's a single failure. The first in multiple updates over several years. No data is lost, and they jumped right on it and issued a fix almost immediately after discovery.
To translate that into ... "proof that their QA is bad" is just hyperbole.
It's a single failure of the only real function it has, how blind can you be? And this hasn't been the only failure that the ATV has had, btw. Loss of sync'd items has occurred before, not only to me but others too, so to say this os the only time it's happened is not true.
I still don't quite get the appeal of the Apple TV. I'm still trying to understand how it is any better than my PS3 which now has Netflix Instant Streaming capabilities.
And to the person that talked about Netflix streaming choking and buffering every 5-10 minutes, that's bull****. We watched that awful movie Paul Blart: Mall Cop last night and didn't have one hiccup in the whole 1:38 runtime -- and that was over 802.11g wireless.
I still don't quite get the appeal of the Apple TV. I'm still trying to understand how it is any better than my PS3 which now has Netflix Instant Streaming capabilities.
Apart from the movies to rent/buy, with AppleTV, I like the fact that it can play my music, display my photos, and play my personal videos/movies all streamed directly from iTunes on any computer in the house (or with all of it stored in the AppleTV box), as well directly access Youtube and now, internet radio. And, with the ability to use my iPhone as a comprehensive remote.
Can your PS3 do all that? (It's a question, not an attempt to be snarky).
Apart from the movies to rent/buy, with AppleTV, I like the fact that it can play my music, display my photos, and play my personal videos/movies all streamed directly from iTunes on any computer in the house (or with all of it stored in the AppleTV box), as well directly access Youtube and now, internet radio. And, with the ability to use my iPhone as a comprehensive remote.
Can your PS3 do all that? (It's a question, not an attempt to be snarky).
I can do all of that stuff with my PS3. It can stream music/movies/pictures from either my wife's Windows XP machine or my HP EX485 Windows Home Server (or I can store media on its 80GB HDD or I can use a thumb drive). I don't know if my PS3 can stream anything from my MacBook Pro, but I haven't bothered since all of my media is stored on the Windows Home Server anyway (all of my my pictures, music, and three seasons of Mad Men ).
As for remotes, I have a Logitech Harmony One which controls my TV, sound system, DVR/cable box, and my PS3.
I still don't quite get the appeal of the Apple TV. I'm still trying to understand how it is any better than my PS3 which now has Netflix Instant Streaming capabilities.
And to the person that talked about Netflix streaming choking and buffering every 5-10 minutes, that's bull****. .
Apple TVs better if you don't want or need a PS3.
And btw, streaming may work if you don't get interference from any other source. I live in a large condo complex and I can see 10 wireless networks at any given time. I wonder how many I can't see but exist. So streaming does indeed stutter, choke .... So don't don't call names when you don't know the circumstances.
Plus I can rip my daughter's DVDs and put them on the Apple TV so she doesn't destroy them, as kids tend to do.
Hey, I bought my AppleTV for pretty much the same reason but the picture quality is not as good as the DVD and I am out of disk space. Not as happy with the device anymore.
And btw, streaming may work if you don't get interference from any other source. I live in a large condo complex and I can see 10 wireless networks at any given time. I wonder how many I can't see but exist. So streaming does indeed stutter, choke .... So don't don't call names when you don't know the circumstances.
How is that Netflix's problem? It's not their problem your wireless situation sucks or that you're bombarded with wireless signals.
That's like blaming Ferrari because your new sports car is stuck in a traffic jam.
That's a ridiculous overstatement. I am an AppleTV consumer since Day 1, who -- except for this incident, which I consider to be a major screw-up -- has got exactly what he expected from it. If that's a 'fonboi', big deal. (Although, I'd expect, by now, for you to be slightly less of a cliche, unfortunately you always seem to revert to type. You just can't help it.)
If it's 'old and stale' and gets overtaken by others, so be it. That won't be because you say so or want it to be so. At the moment, there is isn't enough bandwidth in the pipes to stream Blu-ray and such, so it's wishful thinking. Even if there were the bandwidth, no one today offers the simplicity of UI that AppleTV does. If someone does, please tell us who, how much it costs, and where I can buy/download it on to my existing A/V set-up (which is reasonably fancy and current, so I don't want to spend $$$ buying a new one).
Well then I feel sorry for you cause you got stuck with the 40GB version. I on the other hand waited 2 more months when it went up to 160 GB and bought from day 1 of the 160 GB.
The problem is you're extremely limited to iTunes content ONLY which I had no way of knowing at day 1- Did you?. Movie rentals and sales came a year later. Apple's choke hold grip has cause the failure on this device which could be used for so much more if it were only opened up. No netflix, No Amazon, No Blockbuster, No Hulu. It really should be renamed the iTunesTV. Safari anyone?
I can do all of that stuff with my PS3. It can stream music/movies/pictures from either my wife's Windows XP machine or my HP EX485 Windows Home Server (or I can store media on its 80GB HDD or I can use a thumb drive). I don't know if my PS3 can stream anything from my MacBook Pro, but I haven't bothered since all of my media is stored on the Windows Home Server anyway (all of my my pictures, music, and three seasons of Mad Men ).
As for remotes, I have a Logitech Harmony One which controls my TV, sound system, DVR/cable box, and my PS3.
That's great! I am very impressed. Some of us don't do games, so AppleTV seemed like the more simple and logical choice. And, I am quite happy with it (as you, no doubt, are with your PS3).
Apart from the movies to rent/buy, with AppleTV, I like the fact that it can play my music, display my photos, and play my personal videos/movies all streamed directly from iTunes on any computer in the house (or with all of it stored in the AppleTV box), as well directly access Youtube and now, internet radio. And, with the ability to use my iPhone as a comprehensive remote.
Can your PS3 do all that? (It's a question, not an attempt to be snarky).
Well it took 3 years to get all your stuff at the top of the menu as well as a search function both of which should have been there from day ONE.
PS3 is a much better deal. Games, Blu-ray , wireless rentals from a massive library. AppleTv has none of that.
Apart from the movies to rent/buy, with AppleTV, I like the fact that it can play my music, display my photos, and play my personal videos/movies all streamed directly from iTunes on any computer in the house (or with all of it stored in the AppleTV box), as well directly access Youtube and now, internet radio. And, with the ability to use my iPhone as a comprehensive remote.
Can your PS3 do all that? (It's a question, not an attempt to be snarky).
Any PC laptop can do all that with it with its HDMI port- and is totally portable computer which the Apple TV is not.
Well then I feel sorry for you cause you got stuck with the 40GB version. I on the other hand waited 2 more months when it went up to 160 GB and bought from day 1 of the 160 GB.
The problem is you're extremely limited to iTunes content ONLY which I had no way of knowing at day 1- Did you?. Movie rentals and sales came a year later. Apple's choke hold grip has cause the failure on this device which could be used for so much more if it were only opened up. No netflix, No Amazon, No Blockbuster, No Hulu. It really should be renamed the iTunesTV. Safari anyone?
No need to be condescending and feel sorry for me - I'll repeat what said, in case you missed it the first time: I am, overall, quite happy with it. The 40GB was much cheaper than the 160 GB when I got mine, and it serves my needs. For instance, I store about 15 GB of content (music and photos, mostly), and leave the extra for two to three movies to reside (incl. the possibility of one or two 720p HD).
I did not expect much more than iTunes and Youtube content. So, for example, I view the internet radio available now as a nice bonus actually. It would be great if there were more, but I did not expect it. You are confusing your price/value ratio of a product (relative to your expectations) to be the same for everyone else. That is never the case.
Incidentally, on the topic of 'iTunes TV', it is interesting that the email with the warning re. 3.0 came from the domain name "itunes.com."
One day too late, AFTER I had to resync my 140 GBs of content...
And what exactly will Apple do about the people who don't sync their Apple TV to a computer, whose content suddenly vanished due to Apple's negligence?
This happened to a friend of mine after a previous update. Apple re-downloaded all of her previous purchases and gave her a store credit for $100.00.
It was just enough to cover the extra bandwidth usage for the month.
It's a single failure. The first in multiple updates over several years. No data is lost, and they jumped right on it and issued a fix almost immediately after discovery.
To translate that into ... "proof that their QA is bad" is just hyperbole.
You are overlooking a similar bug that existed in the v2.X Apple TV software for several months earlier this year. Probably a different cause but a similar effect (all purchased content deleted from the Apple TV). Here is a link to an article on MacWorld/MacCentral that documented this earlier problem.
That's great! I am very impressed. Some of us don't do games, so AppleTV seemed like the more simple and logical choice. And, I am quite happy with it (as you, no doubt, are with your PS3).
The only real downside to the PS3 is you have to make sure your not one of the first to download their Firmware updates. There has been ore then a few PS3 that have gotten bricked after Sony released new firmware. The salt in the wound is they act like its your problem and want to change you to fix it.
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you mean the appletv is a total failure - a 3 year old "hobby" which only apple fanbois are buying. Appletv's technology is old and stale. Hdtvs and blu-ray players have basically all of its wireless features and then some built into them now. A sad failure for apple due to their itunes greed.
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You mean the AppleTV is a TOTAL Failure - a 3 year old "hobby" which only Apple fanbois are buying. AppleTV's technology is old and stale. HDTVs and Blu-ray players have basically all of its wireless features and then some built into them now. A sad failure for Apple due to their iTunes greed.
That's a ridiculous overstatement. I am an AppleTV consumer since Day 1, who -- except for this incident, which I consider to be a major screw-up -- has got exactly what he expected from it. If that's a 'fonboi', big deal. (Although, I'd expect, by now, for you to be slightly less of a cliche, unfortunately you always seem to revert to type. You just can't help it.)
If it's 'old and stale' and gets overtaken by others, so be it. That won't be because you say so or want it to be so. At the moment, there is isn't enough bandwidth in the pipes to stream Blu-ray and such, so it's wishful thinking. Even if there were the bandwidth, no one today offers the simplicity of UI that AppleTV does. If someone does, please tell us who, how much it costs, and where I can buy/download it on to my existing A/V set-up (which is reasonably fancy and current, so I don't want to spend $$$ buying a new one).
You're all wrong. It is that, but
It's a single failure. The first in multiple updates over several years. No data is lost, and they jumped right on it and issued a fix almost immediately after discovery.
To translate that into ... "proof that their QA is bad" is just hyperbole.
It's a single failure of the only real function it has, how blind can you be? And this hasn't been the only failure that the ATV has had, btw. Loss of sync'd items has occurred before, not only to me but others too, so to say this os the only time it's happened is not true.
And to the person that talked about Netflix streaming choking and buffering every 5-10 minutes, that's bull****. We watched that awful movie Paul Blart: Mall Cop last night and didn't have one hiccup in the whole 1:38 runtime -- and that was over 802.11g wireless.
I still don't quite get the appeal of the Apple TV. I'm still trying to understand how it is any better than my PS3 which now has Netflix Instant Streaming capabilities.
Apart from the movies to rent/buy, with AppleTV, I like the fact that it can play my music, display my photos, and play my personal videos/movies all streamed directly from iTunes on any computer in the house (or with all of it stored in the AppleTV box), as well directly access Youtube and now, internet radio. And, with the ability to use my iPhone as a comprehensive remote.
Can your PS3 do all that? (It's a question, not an attempt to be snarky).
Apart from the movies to rent/buy, with AppleTV, I like the fact that it can play my music, display my photos, and play my personal videos/movies all streamed directly from iTunes on any computer in the house (or with all of it stored in the AppleTV box), as well directly access Youtube and now, internet radio. And, with the ability to use my iPhone as a comprehensive remote.
Can your PS3 do all that? (It's a question, not an attempt to be snarky).
I can do all of that stuff with my PS3. It can stream music/movies/pictures from either my wife's Windows XP machine or my HP EX485 Windows Home Server (or I can store media on its 80GB HDD or I can use a thumb drive). I don't know if my PS3 can stream anything from my MacBook Pro, but I haven't bothered since all of my media is stored on the Windows Home Server anyway (all of my my pictures, music, and three seasons of Mad Men
As for remotes, I have a Logitech Harmony One which controls my TV, sound system, DVR/cable box, and my PS3.
I still don't quite get the appeal of the Apple TV. I'm still trying to understand how it is any better than my PS3 which now has Netflix Instant Streaming capabilities.
And to the person that talked about Netflix streaming choking and buffering every 5-10 minutes, that's bull****. .
Apple TVs better if you don't want or need a PS3.
And btw, streaming may work if you don't get interference from any other source. I live in a large condo complex and I can see 10 wireless networks at any given time. I wonder how many I can't see but exist. So streaming does indeed stutter, choke .... So don't don't call names when you don't know the circumstances.
Plus I can rip my daughter's DVDs and put them on the Apple TV so she doesn't destroy them, as kids tend to do.
Hey, I bought my AppleTV for pretty much the same reason but the picture quality is not as good as the DVD and I am out of disk space. Not as happy with the device anymore.
And btw, streaming may work if you don't get interference from any other source. I live in a large condo complex and I can see 10 wireless networks at any given time. I wonder how many I can't see but exist. So streaming does indeed stutter, choke .... So don't don't call names when you don't know the circumstances.
How is that Netflix's problem? It's not their problem your wireless situation sucks or that you're bombarded with wireless signals.
That's like blaming Ferrari because your new sports car is stuck in a traffic jam.
does every topic have to get hijacked
the world is watching is this the best AI can do ??
have the mods gone fishing >>
no soup for anyone tonight
nano phone
That's a ridiculous overstatement. I am an AppleTV consumer since Day 1, who -- except for this incident, which I consider to be a major screw-up -- has got exactly what he expected from it. If that's a 'fonboi', big deal. (Although, I'd expect, by now, for you to be slightly less of a cliche, unfortunately you always seem to revert to type. You just can't help it.)
If it's 'old and stale' and gets overtaken by others, so be it. That won't be because you say so or want it to be so. At the moment, there is isn't enough bandwidth in the pipes to stream Blu-ray and such, so it's wishful thinking. Even if there were the bandwidth, no one today offers the simplicity of UI that AppleTV does. If someone does, please tell us who, how much it costs, and where I can buy/download it on to my existing A/V set-up (which is reasonably fancy and current, so I don't want to spend $$$ buying a new one).
Well then I feel sorry for you cause you got stuck with the 40GB version. I on the other hand waited 2 more months when it went up to 160 GB and bought from day 1 of the 160 GB.
The problem is you're extremely limited to iTunes content ONLY which I had no way of knowing at day 1- Did you?. Movie rentals and sales came a year later. Apple's choke hold grip has cause the failure on this device which could be used for so much more if it were only opened up. No netflix, No Amazon, No Blockbuster, No Hulu. It really should be renamed the iTunesTV. Safari anyone?
I can do all of that stuff with my PS3. It can stream music/movies/pictures from either my wife's Windows XP machine or my HP EX485 Windows Home Server (or I can store media on its 80GB HDD or I can use a thumb drive). I don't know if my PS3 can stream anything from my MacBook Pro, but I haven't bothered since all of my media is stored on the Windows Home Server anyway (all of my my pictures, music, and three seasons of Mad Men
As for remotes, I have a Logitech Harmony One which controls my TV, sound system, DVR/cable box, and my PS3.
That's great! I am very impressed. Some of us don't do games, so AppleTV seemed like the more simple and logical choice. And, I am quite happy with it (as you, no doubt, are with your PS3).
Apart from the movies to rent/buy, with AppleTV, I like the fact that it can play my music, display my photos, and play my personal videos/movies all streamed directly from iTunes on any computer in the house (or with all of it stored in the AppleTV box), as well directly access Youtube and now, internet radio. And, with the ability to use my iPhone as a comprehensive remote.
Can your PS3 do all that? (It's a question, not an attempt to be snarky).
Well it took 3 years to get all your stuff at the top of the menu as well as a search function both of which should have been there from day ONE.
PS3 is a much better deal. Games, Blu-ray , wireless rentals from a massive library. AppleTv has none of that.
In it's sole purpose- yes. Your description of that purpose however was spot on!
Apart from the movies to rent/buy, with AppleTV, I like the fact that it can play my music, display my photos, and play my personal videos/movies all streamed directly from iTunes on any computer in the house (or with all of it stored in the AppleTV box), as well directly access Youtube and now, internet radio. And, with the ability to use my iPhone as a comprehensive remote.
Can your PS3 do all that? (It's a question, not an attempt to be snarky).
Any PC laptop can do all that with it with its HDMI port- and is totally portable computer which the Apple TV is not.
Well then I feel sorry for you cause you got stuck with the 40GB version. I on the other hand waited 2 more months when it went up to 160 GB and bought from day 1 of the 160 GB.
The problem is you're extremely limited to iTunes content ONLY which I had no way of knowing at day 1- Did you?. Movie rentals and sales came a year later. Apple's choke hold grip has cause the failure on this device which could be used for so much more if it were only opened up. No netflix, No Amazon, No Blockbuster, No Hulu. It really should be renamed the iTunesTV. Safari anyone?
No need to be condescending and feel sorry for me - I'll repeat what said, in case you missed it the first time: I am, overall, quite happy with it.
I did not expect much more than iTunes and Youtube content. So, for example, I view the internet radio available now as a nice bonus actually. It would be great if there were more, but I did not expect it. You are confusing your price/value ratio of a product (relative to your expectations) to be the same for everyone else. That is never the case.
Incidentally, on the topic of 'iTunes TV', it is interesting that the email with the warning re. 3.0 came from the domain name "itunes.com."
One day too late, AFTER I had to resync my 140 GBs of content...
And what exactly will Apple do about the people who don't sync their Apple TV to a computer, whose content suddenly vanished due to Apple's negligence?
This happened to a friend of mine after a previous update. Apple re-downloaded all of her previous purchases and gave her a store credit for $100.00.
It was just enough to cover the extra bandwidth usage for the month.
It's a single failure. The first in multiple updates over several years. No data is lost, and they jumped right on it and issued a fix almost immediately after discovery.
To translate that into ... "proof that their QA is bad" is just hyperbole.
You are overlooking a similar bug that existed in the v2.X Apple TV software for several months earlier this year. Probably a different cause but a similar effect (all purchased content deleted from the Apple TV). Here is a link to an article on MacWorld/MacCentral that documented this earlier problem.
http://www.macworld.com/article/1412...etv_files.html
I continue to like my Apple TV, but these types of serious synching and data loss bugs are getting a little hard to take.
That's great! I am very impressed. Some of us don't do games, so AppleTV seemed like the more simple and logical choice. And, I am quite happy with it (as you, no doubt, are with your PS3).
The only real downside to the PS3 is you have to make sure your not one of the first to download their Firmware updates. There has been ore then a few PS3 that have gotten bricked after Sony released new firmware. The salt in the wound is they act like its your problem and want to change you to fix it.