Yeah but honestly don't you think they could have gotten a 65 watt quad in the old iMac 24"? I do.
Yes I do and think they should have used the SFF Core 2 quads. The old 24" were an absolute ripoff for what you got. The new high end i5/7 models still have a lot of drawback inherent to the all in one form factor (an a sealed one at that), but at least they're on par with a desktop in terms of speed, unlike their predecessors, and they've solved the memory bottleneck.
Aplnub, exactly how are you doing it? From which model computer? What kind of cable? or are you doing it wirelessly from Time Capsule?
I have an old iBookG4 60GB (maxed out) HD and am wondering best way to transfer data and settings.
I ran into the problem of not being able to clone directly over from SuperDuper with the unibody MacBook. Evidently, 10.6.2 for everyone without a new iMac is different for some of us with the new iMac. Since I got an i7 with the 4850, I imagine the build is different and will not be compatible across the line until 10.6.3. In other words, you can boot from an earlier version of the OS on a new piece of hardware without all the supported drivers. I got a Kernel Panic booting from my external HDD.
Now, on to your question. I cranked up Migration Assistant. MA takes a very long time. I let it run from 6 pm until I got up this morning and it was finally done.
I have a Western Digital MyBook 1TB HDD and a 2TB HDD I do my SuperDuper backups on. One drive is used once a month to make a back up and then is moved to a separate location to be stored. I used the 1TB drive for this backup and they both are USB. Normally, I prefer Firewire but they were so cheap I decided to go with USB this time.
Since I keep a bootable SuperDuper clone available, I just Migrated an existing backup disk into my new iMac. I then rebooted, logged into my account (be sure if you do it this way the migrated account has Admin privileges), and delete the account you had to create logging on to your Mac for the first time (be sure not to create the same user name that you will use on your soon to be migrated account).
Another thing to note is that I had to reload iTunes as it reported it was corrupted. After a download and reinstall, everything was fine and it picked back up with my iTunes Movie download just like normal. VMWare 3.0 also had to be reloaded. It acted like I had not updated to the latest version of 3.0 and it was up to date.
I prefer not using MA, but in this case, I had to unless I wanted to wait for 10.6.3 to come out since I use SuperDuper to create and maintain bootable clones of my HDD.
My original computer was a 24" C2D iMac Aluminum (first model in Aluminum) with the 2.8 GHz Extreme I think.
For the record, FW 400 is not present on the new iMac, only FW800. Which is fine since an adapter can be bought to be compatible with FW400.
A little scattered but I hope this helps. Feel free to ask anymore questions. I could probably put together a chart showing my steps if I had some time and you think you may need a guide.
I ran into the problem of not being able to clone directly over from SuperDuper with the unibody MacBook. Evidently, 10.6.2 for everyone without a new iMac is different for some of us with the new iMac. Since I got an i7 with the 4850, I imagine the build is different and will not be compatible across the line until 10.6.3. In other words, you can boot from an earlier version of the OS on a new piece of hardware without all the supported drivers. I got a Kernel Panic booting from my external HDD.
Now, on to your question. I cranked up Migration Assistant. MA takes a very long time. I let it run from 6 pm until I got up this morning and it was finally done.
I have a Western Digital MyBook 1TB HDD and a 2TB HDD I do my SuperDuper backups on. One drive is used once a month to make a back up and then is moved to a separate location to be stored. I used the 1TB drive for this backup and they both are USB. Normally, I prefer Firewire but they were so cheap I decided to go with USB this time.
Since I keep a bootable SuperDuper clone available, I just Migrated an existing backup disk into my new iMac. I then rebooted, logged into my account (be sure if you do it this way the migrated account has Admin privileges), and delete the account you had to create logging on to your Mac for the first time (be sure not to create the same user name that you will use on your soon to be migrated account).
Another thing to note is that I had to reload iTunes as it reported it was corrupted. After a download and reinstall, everything was fine and it picked back up with my iTunes Movie download just like normal. VMWare 3.0 also had to be reloaded. It acted like I had not updated to the latest version of 3.0 and it was up to date.
I prefer not using MA, but in this case, I had to unless I wanted to wait for 10.6.3 to come out since I use SuperDuper to create and maintain bootable clones of my HDD.
My original computer was a 24" C2D iMac Aluminum (first model in Aluminum) with the 2.8 GHz Extreme I think.
For the record, FW 400 is not present on the new iMac, only FW800. Which is fine since an adapter can be bought to be compatible with FW400.
A little scattered but I hope this helps. Feel free to ask anymore questions. I could probably put together a chart showing my steps if I had some time and you think you may need a guide.
Why didn't you restore from a TM backup? Seems like those have less issues than MA, or am I wrong on this?
Why didn't you restore from a TM backup? Seems like those have less issues than MA, or am I wrong on this?
I don't use TM. I have used it before with mixed results. Too many error messages. Also, TM does not create bootable backups. If your computer goes down, you can't immediately boot from a backup on another Mac. Too many downsides with TM in my opinion. To be fair, I do use it with my Time Capsule but by no means do I rely on it. It is a last ditch effort if something goes horribly wrong.
To be fair, SuperDuper works flawlessly for this type of task every time. I have just showed one potential problem and it is really a problem with me buying the latest and greatest hardware and living on the edge.
I don't use TM. I have used it before with mixed results. Too many error messages. Also, TM does not create bootable backups. If your computer goes down, you can't immediately boot from a backup on another Mac. Too many downsides with TM in my opinion. To be fair, I do use it with my Time Capsule but by no means do I rely on it. It is a last ditch effort if something goes horribly wrong.
To be fair, SuperDuper works flawlessly for this type of task every time. I have just showed one potential problem and it is really a problem with me buying the latest and greatest hardware and living on the edge.
My advice is to make an 8GB partition on your drive(s) and use Disk Utility to restore the SL Install Disc to it. This way you can always hold down the Option key at boot up to access that partition like you would the DVD. It?s also a lot faster than optical media. On an external drive this makes easy work of doing repairs for others with Macs. No FW or another Mac needed, USB works swimmingly.
My advice is to make an 8GB partition on your drive(s) and use Disk Utility to restore the SL Install Disc to it. This way you can always hold down the Option key at boot up to access that partition like you would the DVD. It?s also a lot faster than optical media. On an external drive this makes easy work of doing repairs for others with Macs. No FW or another Mac needed, USB works swimmingly.
The problem is not USB, external drive, or FW. Close a version of 10.6.2 on current Hardware before the iMac update. Try booting off that cloned drive. It won't work because the builds lack the correct hardware drivers. Maybe it would have worked in Safe Mode. I may try Safe Mode tonight for kicks.
Believe, SuperDuper is way better than TM for me. Remember, I need a bootable clone.
The problem is not USB, external drive, or FW. Close a version of 10.6.2 on current Hardware before the iMac update. Try booting off that cloned drive. It won't work because the builds lack the correct hardware drivers. Maybe it would have worked in Safe Mode. I may try Safe Mode tonight for kicks.
Believe, SuperDuper is way better than TM for me. Remember, I need a bootable clone.
I?m not saying clone a drive. I?m saying use Disk Utility to restore the OS X Install DIsc to a partition so you don?t need to clone a drive. This also helps with doing repairs to the partition because you never need to have the physical DVD with you as it?s on a local partition. It?s a huge time saver.
I don't use TM. I have used it before with mixed results. Too many error messages. Also, TM does not create bootable backups. If your computer goes down, you can't immediately boot from a backup on another Mac. Too many downsides with TM in my opinion. To be fair, I do use it with my Time Capsule but by no means do I rely on it. It is a last ditch effort if something goes horribly wrong.
To be fair, SuperDuper works flawlessly for this type of task every time. I have just showed one potential problem and it is really a problem with me buying the latest and greatest hardware and living on the edge.
Yeah I use SD as well, just for the bootable clones. That's a potentially bacon saving backup.
I read where people have flawless restores from TM but MA seems to have more problems. If I were to get a new machine I think I would restore from a TM backup.
I?m not saying clone a drive. I?m saying use Disk Utility to restore the OS X Install DIsc to a partition so you don?t need to clone a drive. This also helps with doing repairs to the partition because you never need to have the physical DVD with you as it?s on a local partition. It?s a huge time saver.
I guess I could clone over my install disk like you said but I have tried previously to make an image of the SL DVD I purchased to hurry up the installation and couldn't get it to work. I need to revisit that.
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Yeah I use SD as well, just for the bootable clones. That's a potentially bacon saving backup.
I read where people have flawless restores from TM but MA seems to have more problems. If I were to get a new machine I think I would restore from a TM backup.
Those were the only two problems. iTunes and VMWare. If TM is quicker and you keep an up to date copy, it may well be worth it.
I guess I could clone over my install disk like you said but I have tried previously to make an image of the SL DVD I purchased to hurry up the installation and couldn't get it to work. I need to revisit that.
Don?t use cloning software, use Disk Utility. You click on drive on the left-hand column and then choose the Restore tab from the right-side area. Then it?s simply a matter of dragging the SL DVD from the left-hand side to the area for source and then dragging the destiantion partition in the same way.
PS: The trickiest thing about this method (and oddly non-Apple-like in usability) is that you have to use the drag-and-drop method to copy the Source and Destination partitions. The Image button next to the Source field won?t let you choose the partition. It?s the only caveat for this slick setup. After that you?ll be able to hold down the Option key and boot to the SL Install Disk as if it were a DVD.
Don?t use cloning software, use Disk Utility. You click on drive on the left-hand column and then choose the Restore tab from the right-side area. Then it?s simply a matter of dragging the SL DVD from the left-hand side to the area for source and then dragging the destiantion partition in the same way.
PS: The trickiest thing about this method (and oddly non-Apple-like in usability) is that you have to use the drag-and-drop method to copy the Source and Destination partitions. The Image button next to the Source field won?t let you choose the partition. It?s the only caveat for this slick setup. After that you?ll be able to hold down the Option key and boot to the SL Install Disk as if it were a DVD.
Poor choice of words on my part. I make images using Disk Utility. I will try it again.
I called the Store nearest me: FW400 --> 800 = $30 cable.
If they do it on my 1:1 I have to leave it there 48 hours. Too addicted, will buy cable, 48 hrs worth $30. They said AppleCare will handhold me if anything goes wrong, LOL
Any other tips for this dummie, like that great one of not using old id account when first setting up new iMac since it will be transfered? Leery of disaster.
I called the Store nearest me: FW400 --> 800 = $30 cable.
If they do it on my 1:1 I have to leave it there 48 hours. Too addicted, will buy cable, 48 hrs worth $30. They said AppleCare will handhold me if anything goes wrong, LOL
Any other tips for this dummie, like that great one of not using old id account when first setting up new iMac since it will be transfered? Leery of disaster.
If you can wait for a package to arrive in the mail, Monoprice is the cheapest place to cables and adapters from.
I called the Store nearest me: FW400 --> 800 = $30 cable.
If they do it on my 1:1 I have to leave it there 48 hours. Too addicted, will buy cable, 48 hrs worth $30. They said AppleCare will handhold me if anything goes wrong, LOL
Any other tips for this dummie, like that great one of not using old id account when first setting up new iMac since it will be transfered? Leery of disaster.
It's is really straight forward. Solipsism has a good link there too. I wouldn't be able to wait but I know Best Buy has adapters but they are expensive, like $48 or something when I was in there the other day.
Thanks! Since I've had really good luck with all the cables (for AirTunes) I've already bought at the Apple Store, will just buy the 400 -> 800 cable there. Yeah I'm like a rat at the lever, pushing for the fix, checking n refreshing my shipping page, making a nice home for the new i7, like preparing a nursery. Sure will lavish enough attention on the thing
Thanks! Since I've had really good luck with all the cables (for AirTunes) I've already bought at the Apple Store, will just buy the 400 -> 800 cable there. Yeah I'm like a rat at the lever, pushing for the fix, checking n refreshing my shipping page, making a nice home for the new i7, like preparing a nursery. Sure will lavish enough attention on the thing
The screen is unlike anything I have seen. Very wide and very sharp. The processors sound like mini explosions going off. Very cool sound. And best of all, I can't wait to purchase more ram just because I can stuff it full.
I am going to purchase a 2 TB SATA 3.5" hdd to put in my OWC enclosure so I can run FW 800 and free up a USB port and have faster back ups.
Also, purchasing Star Trek in HD was a good move to show off the screen. Flat awesome. I would buy one of these for my television if I could use a DirectTv box with it.
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Yeah but honestly don't you think they could have gotten a 65 watt quad in the old iMac 24"? I do.
Yes I do and think they should have used the SFF Core 2 quads. The old 24" were an absolute ripoff for what you got. The new high end i5/7 models still have a lot of drawback inherent to the all in one form factor (an a sealed one at that), but at least they're on par with a desktop in terms of speed, unlike their predecessors, and they've solved the memory bottleneck.
Got mine today! :-). My i7 is migrating my superduper backup over right now since you can't clone the current build over. Can't wait to try it out.
Aplnub, exactly how are you doing it? From which model computer? What kind of cable? or are you doing it wirelessly from Time Capsule?
I have an old iBookG4 60GB (maxed out) HD and am wondering best way to transfer data and settings.
Aplnub, exactly how are you doing it? From which model computer? What kind of cable? or are you doing it wirelessly from Time Capsule?
I have an old iBookG4 60GB (maxed out) HD and am wondering best way to transfer data and settings.
I ran into the problem of not being able to clone directly over from SuperDuper with the unibody MacBook. Evidently, 10.6.2 for everyone without a new iMac is different for some of us with the new iMac. Since I got an i7 with the 4850, I imagine the build is different and will not be compatible across the line until 10.6.3. In other words, you can boot from an earlier version of the OS on a new piece of hardware without all the supported drivers. I got a Kernel Panic booting from my external HDD.
Now, on to your question. I cranked up Migration Assistant. MA takes a very long time. I let it run from 6 pm until I got up this morning and it was finally done.
I have a Western Digital MyBook 1TB HDD and a 2TB HDD I do my SuperDuper backups on. One drive is used once a month to make a back up and then is moved to a separate location to be stored. I used the 1TB drive for this backup and they both are USB. Normally, I prefer Firewire but they were so cheap I decided to go with USB this time.
Since I keep a bootable SuperDuper clone available, I just Migrated an existing backup disk into my new iMac. I then rebooted, logged into my account (be sure if you do it this way the migrated account has Admin privileges), and delete the account you had to create logging on to your Mac for the first time (be sure not to create the same user name that you will use on your soon to be migrated account).
Another thing to note is that I had to reload iTunes as it reported it was corrupted. After a download and reinstall, everything was fine and it picked back up with my iTunes Movie download just like normal. VMWare 3.0 also had to be reloaded. It acted like I had not updated to the latest version of 3.0 and it was up to date.
I prefer not using MA, but in this case, I had to unless I wanted to wait for 10.6.3 to come out since I use SuperDuper to create and maintain bootable clones of my HDD.
My original computer was a 24" C2D iMac Aluminum (first model in Aluminum) with the 2.8 GHz Extreme I think.
For the record, FW 400 is not present on the new iMac, only FW800. Which is fine since an adapter can be bought to be compatible with FW400.
A little scattered but I hope this helps. Feel free to ask anymore questions. I could probably put together a chart showing my steps if I had some time and you think you may need a guide.
I ran into the problem of not being able to clone directly over from SuperDuper with the unibody MacBook. Evidently, 10.6.2 for everyone without a new iMac is different for some of us with the new iMac. Since I got an i7 with the 4850, I imagine the build is different and will not be compatible across the line until 10.6.3. In other words, you can boot from an earlier version of the OS on a new piece of hardware without all the supported drivers. I got a Kernel Panic booting from my external HDD.
Now, on to your question. I cranked up Migration Assistant. MA takes a very long time. I let it run from 6 pm until I got up this morning and it was finally done.
I have a Western Digital MyBook 1TB HDD and a 2TB HDD I do my SuperDuper backups on. One drive is used once a month to make a back up and then is moved to a separate location to be stored. I used the 1TB drive for this backup and they both are USB. Normally, I prefer Firewire but they were so cheap I decided to go with USB this time.
Since I keep a bootable SuperDuper clone available, I just Migrated an existing backup disk into my new iMac. I then rebooted, logged into my account (be sure if you do it this way the migrated account has Admin privileges), and delete the account you had to create logging on to your Mac for the first time (be sure not to create the same user name that you will use on your soon to be migrated account).
Another thing to note is that I had to reload iTunes as it reported it was corrupted. After a download and reinstall, everything was fine and it picked back up with my iTunes Movie download just like normal. VMWare 3.0 also had to be reloaded. It acted like I had not updated to the latest version of 3.0 and it was up to date.
I prefer not using MA, but in this case, I had to unless I wanted to wait for 10.6.3 to come out since I use SuperDuper to create and maintain bootable clones of my HDD.
My original computer was a 24" C2D iMac Aluminum (first model in Aluminum) with the 2.8 GHz Extreme I think.
For the record, FW 400 is not present on the new iMac, only FW800. Which is fine since an adapter can be bought to be compatible with FW400.
A little scattered but I hope this helps. Feel free to ask anymore questions. I could probably put together a chart showing my steps if I had some time and you think you may need a guide.
Why didn't you restore from a TM backup? Seems like those have less issues than MA, or am I wrong on this?
Why didn't you restore from a TM backup? Seems like those have less issues than MA, or am I wrong on this?
I don't use TM. I have used it before with mixed results. Too many error messages. Also, TM does not create bootable backups. If your computer goes down, you can't immediately boot from a backup on another Mac. Too many downsides with TM in my opinion. To be fair, I do use it with my Time Capsule but by no means do I rely on it. It is a last ditch effort if something goes horribly wrong.
To be fair, SuperDuper works flawlessly for this type of task every time. I have just showed one potential problem and it is really a problem with me buying the latest and greatest hardware and living on the edge.
Why didn't you restore from a TM backup? Seems like those have less issues than MA, or am I wrong on this?
I don’t get it, either. TM has made it a breeze to restoring my system a breeze.
I don't use TM. I have used it before with mixed results. Too many error messages. Also, TM does not create bootable backups. If your computer goes down, you can't immediately boot from a backup on another Mac. Too many downsides with TM in my opinion. To be fair, I do use it with my Time Capsule but by no means do I rely on it. It is a last ditch effort if something goes horribly wrong.
To be fair, SuperDuper works flawlessly for this type of task every time. I have just showed one potential problem and it is really a problem with me buying the latest and greatest hardware and living on the edge.
My advice is to make an 8GB partition on your drive(s) and use Disk Utility to restore the SL Install Disc to it. This way you can always hold down the Option key at boot up to access that partition like you would the DVD. It?s also a lot faster than optical media. On an external drive this makes easy work of doing repairs for others with Macs. No FW or another Mac needed, USB works swimmingly.
My advice is to make an 8GB partition on your drive(s) and use Disk Utility to restore the SL Install Disc to it. This way you can always hold down the Option key at boot up to access that partition like you would the DVD. It?s also a lot faster than optical media. On an external drive this makes easy work of doing repairs for others with Macs. No FW or another Mac needed, USB works swimmingly.
The problem is not USB, external drive, or FW. Close a version of 10.6.2 on current Hardware before the iMac update. Try booting off that cloned drive. It won't work because the builds lack the correct hardware drivers. Maybe it would have worked in Safe Mode. I may try Safe Mode tonight for kicks.
Believe, SuperDuper is way better than TM for me. Remember, I need a bootable clone.
The problem is not USB, external drive, or FW. Close a version of 10.6.2 on current Hardware before the iMac update. Try booting off that cloned drive. It won't work because the builds lack the correct hardware drivers. Maybe it would have worked in Safe Mode. I may try Safe Mode tonight for kicks.
Believe, SuperDuper is way better than TM for me. Remember, I need a bootable clone.
I?m not saying clone a drive. I?m saying use Disk Utility to restore the OS X Install DIsc to a partition so you don?t need to clone a drive. This also helps with doing repairs to the partition because you never need to have the physical DVD with you as it?s on a local partition. It?s a huge time saver.
I don't use TM. I have used it before with mixed results. Too many error messages. Also, TM does not create bootable backups. If your computer goes down, you can't immediately boot from a backup on another Mac. Too many downsides with TM in my opinion. To be fair, I do use it with my Time Capsule but by no means do I rely on it. It is a last ditch effort if something goes horribly wrong.
To be fair, SuperDuper works flawlessly for this type of task every time. I have just showed one potential problem and it is really a problem with me buying the latest and greatest hardware and living on the edge.
Yeah I use SD as well, just for the bootable clones. That's a potentially bacon saving backup.
I read where people have flawless restores from TM but MA seems to have more problems. If I were to get a new machine I think I would restore from a TM backup.
I?m not saying clone a drive. I?m saying use Disk Utility to restore the OS X Install DIsc to a partition so you don?t need to clone a drive. This also helps with doing repairs to the partition because you never need to have the physical DVD with you as it?s on a local partition. It?s a huge time saver.
I guess I could clone over my install disk like you said but I have tried previously to make an image of the SL DVD I purchased to hurry up the installation and couldn't get it to work. I need to revisit that.
Yeah I use SD as well, just for the bootable clones. That's a potentially bacon saving backup.
I read where people have flawless restores from TM but MA seems to have more problems. If I were to get a new machine I think I would restore from a TM backup.
Those were the only two problems. iTunes and VMWare. If TM is quicker and you keep an up to date copy, it may well be worth it.
I guess I could clone over my install disk like you said but I have tried previously to make an image of the SL DVD I purchased to hurry up the installation and couldn't get it to work. I need to revisit that.
Don?t use cloning software, use Disk Utility. You click on drive on the left-hand column and then choose the Restore tab from the right-side area. Then it?s simply a matter of dragging the SL DVD from the left-hand side to the area for source and then dragging the destiantion partition in the same way.
PS: The trickiest thing about this method (and oddly non-Apple-like in usability) is that you have to use the drag-and-drop method to copy the Source and Destination partitions. The Image button next to the Source field won?t let you choose the partition. It?s the only caveat for this slick setup. After that you?ll be able to hold down the Option key and boot to the SL Install Disk as if it were a DVD.
Don?t use cloning software, use Disk Utility. You click on drive on the left-hand column and then choose the Restore tab from the right-side area. Then it?s simply a matter of dragging the SL DVD from the left-hand side to the area for source and then dragging the destiantion partition in the same way.
PS: The trickiest thing about this method (and oddly non-Apple-like in usability) is that you have to use the drag-and-drop method to copy the Source and Destination partitions. The Image button next to the Source field won?t let you choose the partition. It?s the only caveat for this slick setup. After that you?ll be able to hold down the Option key and boot to the SL Install Disk as if it were a DVD.
Poor choice of words on my part. I make images using Disk Utility. I will try it again.
Poor choice of words on my part. I make images using Disk Utility. I will try it again.
I didn?t even notice it has the 3 different instructions on it for making the copies. BTW, this didn?t work with Leopard. It?s new with SL.
I called the Store nearest me: FW400 --> 800 = $30 cable.
If they do it on my 1:1 I have to leave it there 48 hours. Too addicted, will buy cable, 48 hrs worth $30. They said AppleCare will handhold me if anything goes wrong, LOL
Any other tips for this dummie, like that great one of not using old id account when first setting up new iMac since it will be transfered? Leery of disaster.
Thanks Aplnub!
I called the Store nearest me: FW400 --> 800 = $30 cable.
If they do it on my 1:1 I have to leave it there 48 hours. Too addicted, will buy cable, 48 hrs worth $30. They said AppleCare will handhold me if anything goes wrong, LOL
Any other tips for this dummie, like that great one of not using old id account when first setting up new iMac since it will be transfered? Leery of disaster.
If you can wait for a package to arrive in the mail, Monoprice is the cheapest place to cables and adapters from.
Thanks Aplnub!
I called the Store nearest me: FW400 --> 800 = $30 cable.
If they do it on my 1:1 I have to leave it there 48 hours. Too addicted, will buy cable, 48 hrs worth $30. They said AppleCare will handhold me if anything goes wrong, LOL
Any other tips for this dummie, like that great one of not using old id account when first setting up new iMac since it will be transfered? Leery of disaster.
It's is really straight forward. Solipsism has a good link there too. I wouldn't be able to wait but I know Best Buy has adapters but they are expensive, like $48 or something when I was in there the other day.
Thanks! Since I've had really good luck with all the cables (for AirTunes) I've already bought at the Apple Store, will just buy the 400 -> 800 cable there. Yeah I'm like a rat at the lever, pushing for the fix, checking n refreshing my shipping page, making a nice home for the new i7, like preparing a nursery. Sure will lavish enough attention on the thing
The screen is unlike anything I have seen. Very wide and very sharp. The processors sound like mini explosions going off. Very cool sound. And best of all, I can't wait to purchase more ram just because I can stuff it full.
I am going to purchase a 2 TB SATA 3.5" hdd to put in my OWC enclosure so I can run FW 800 and free up a USB port and have faster back ups.
Also, purchasing Star Trek in HD was a good move to show off the screen. Flat awesome. I would buy one of these for my television if I could use a DirectTv box with it.