As for Phish, saw them a couple of summers ago. Late into the evening (it was outdoors) the crowd suddenly erupted, throwing glowsticks. It was like a metoer shower that didn't want to end. It was the most radical thing I think I ever saw. That's the only Phish concert I ever attended. Is that something that happened a lot at their shows? I suspect here in Hartford we had a lot of "Phish heads" from way back. It's a short drive straight down I-91 from Vermont.
[quote]Sorry, Applenut, I didn't know Phish broke up. Is this true? Living in Hong Kong one doesn't really get the latest news...<hr></blockquote>
Phish broke up a long time ago. At least a year. Seems like it was because Trey was an ass. The minute they broke up he formed his own band and toured.
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Anyway, Phish are musically one of the most talented bands ever. They can jam forever, and can always come up with something completely new, and overwhelming. Don't diss them until you hear them live.<hr></blockquote>
as long as it sounds like the grateful dead
I hav heard them live numerous times. You don't need to tell me how Phish sound.
If you want jamming bands that don't just bite off of others like Phish then look towards Gov't Mule, Phil Lesh, Bela Fleck and the Fecktones, etc.
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If you asked them to play like Hendrix, they'd play like Hendrix. Play like BB King, they'd play like BB king.<hr></blockquote>
that's stretching it a bit far. good band but they never sound like either of those 2. the best cover I have heard them do is 5:15.
[quote]If you asked them to play like the average, unoriginal 90's rock and roll style band, they'd play just like Pearl Jam.<hr></blockquote>
rather than a Grateful Dead wannabe? Anything is an improvement
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And if you asked them to play like Phish, they wouldn't sound like anyone else.<hr></blockquote>
except the Grateful Dead
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A memorable band has to be original, and Pearl Jam are not.<hr></blockquote>
I read just yesterday that one of the guys from Phish was saying "We didn't break up, we're on hiatus." Not that it makes a difference (especially not to me since I don't give a rat's ass about Phish) but I'd hate to have some Phish fan slashing his wrists over slightly inaccurate information about the group's demise.
<strong>I read just yesterday that one of the guys from Phish was saying "We didn't break up, we're on hiatus." Not that it makes a difference (especially not to me since I don't give a rat's ass about Phish) but I'd hate to have some Phish fan slashing his wrists over slightly inaccurate information about the group's demise.</strong><hr></blockquote>
nothing slightly inaccurate. they broke up.
yea, I'm sure the status could have changed to "hiatus" when they realized that none of them had a future as a solo artists and needed cash
Wow. Interesting list. I can't agree with the order, but I'd agree with most of the bands.
I'm not much of a Phish fan. I think, being a jam band, they're not the kind of musicians that 'hook you' with a CD. But I don't think they sound much like The Dead, even though they have that kind of fan base etc. They might have the same style, but a different sound.
Once, (some time ago) a friend of mine won two good tickets to go see Phish at Sandstone in KC so we went up there with these uh, tainted cubes. Well, we weren't familiar with the music at all and of course the rest of the crowd was. My friend and I sat, wide eyed, in our chairs the whole time, while everyone around us was singing along and cheering at all the 'right parts'. There was one song where everyone would yell in unison, then clap, or something like that. We looked at each other and just busted out laughing because we realized we had absolutely no idea what was going on.
I'd previously heard a couple of songs through friends but I just didn't know how/when I was supposed to get involved - you just can't tell these things from listening to a CD. I was awfully relieved when they played "bouncing around the room" and that "swinging from my vines" song. At least I wasn't at a complete loss.
You're either into Phish or you're not. I guess I'm not.
The music was pretty good though. And they had a decent light show.
Weird list. I can agree on many of the names but they screwed up much of the order. For instance: Nirvana at 5 and Sonic Youth only at 17? t should be the exact opposite. And where are any of the bands from the english late80/early90 indie scene? Bands like My Bloody Valentine, Charlatans, Ride, Swervedriver? That scene (esp. MBV) was more innovative than any of the grounge bands (despite the popularity of the latter) and I even saw (and was fan of) Pearl Jam, Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins at venues with sub-500 audience in early 90s.
Greatest record of the 90s: My Bloody Valentine: "Loveless". It was so radical that it destroyed the whole scene.
At least the Bboys made it in at 10 but putting PF so low invalidates the whole list. I stopped reading spin a while ago. I thought they were out of publication.
<strong>Weird list. I can agree on many of the names but they screwed up much of the order. For instance: Nirvana at 5 and Sonic Youth only at 17? t should be the exact opposite. And where are any of the bands from the english late80/early90 indie scene? Bands like My Bloody Valentine, Charlatans, Ride, Swervedriver? That scene (esp. MBV) was more innovative than any of the grounge bands (despite the popularity of the latter) and I even saw (and was fan of) Pearl Jam, Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins at venues with sub-500 audience in early 90s.
Greatest record of the 90s: My Bloody Valentine: "Loveless". It was so radical that it destroyed the whole scene.</strong><hr></blockquote>
uggg... I can't stand Sonic Youth. I sat through their hour of crappy music 3 days in a row because they opened for Pearl Jam. I know a lot of people regard them highly but god I just don't see anything there.
BTW, isn't that Spin list a list of the most "influential" bands and not best bands of all time?
Sonic youth is good stuff. I wouldn't put them as high as anders would, but they're good. The Flaming Lips are also really good. Artistically talented, but they don't get the press. Now, radiohead way below Nirvana? It's got to be an influence thing and not an actual "greatness" ranking because there's no way in hell that should happen. I'm glad P.J.'s on there. They are too underrated, in my opinion. Not just because I love their music, but their politics too. They're not afraid to take a stand on what they believe and I think that they have developed into the role of being role-models nicely. They've matured a lot and will be around for a long time to come. At least I can be assured of buying some new music every once in a while with them around
The Beatles were not a "boy band". Now, the Monkees - THERE is a 60's boy band for ya...
Dylan or Beatles more influentual? Well, Dylan had a huge influence on the Beatles. Anyone think Dylan was influenced by the Beatles?
As far as hot live bands / "Jam Bands ", no one holds a candle to <a href="http://www.radiators.org"; target="_blank">The Radiators</a>
Think Stevie Ray Vaughn meets Little Feat meets Grateful Dead..... and they are a bar band, so you can actually get up close and SEE what they play. Much like the Dead, they rotate about 500 songs, and no two shows are ever the same, and their fans are, well, VERY devoted.... much like we are with our Macs
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The Rev Rocks!
I've got Rev stickers all over my box and monitor.
Have you seen him live before?
As for Phish, saw them a couple of summers ago. Late into the evening (it was outdoors) the crowd suddenly erupted, throwing glowsticks. It was like a metoer shower that didn't want to end. It was the most radical thing I think I ever saw. That's the only Phish concert I ever attended. Is that something that happened a lot at their shows? I suspect here in Hartford we had a lot of "Phish heads" from way back. It's a short drive straight down I-91 from Vermont.
Phish broke up a long time ago. At least a year. Seems like it was because Trey was an ass. The minute they broke up he formed his own band and toured.
[quote]
Anyway, Phish are musically one of the most talented bands ever. They can jam forever, and can always come up with something completely new, and overwhelming. Don't diss them until you hear them live.<hr></blockquote>
as long as it sounds like the grateful dead
I hav heard them live numerous times. You don't need to tell me how Phish sound.
If you want jamming bands that don't just bite off of others like Phish then look towards Gov't Mule, Phil Lesh, Bela Fleck and the Fecktones, etc.
[quote]
If you asked them to play like Hendrix, they'd play like Hendrix. Play like BB King, they'd play like BB king.<hr></blockquote>
that's stretching it a bit far. good band but they never sound like either of those 2. the best cover I have heard them do is 5:15.
[quote]If you asked them to play like the average, unoriginal 90's rock and roll style band, they'd play just like Pearl Jam.<hr></blockquote>
rather than a Grateful Dead wannabe? Anything is an improvement
[quote]
And if you asked them to play like Phish, they wouldn't sound like anyone else.<hr></blockquote>
except the Grateful Dead
[quote]
A memorable band has to be original, and Pearl Jam are not.<hr></blockquote>
yea, that was a good one
Roger, Irving Plaza is located in beautiful NYC, not too far from your neck of the woods right?
His preaching sessions usually involve local figures around here, I can't imagine he knows that much about other places.
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Roger, Irving Plaza is located in beautiful NYC, not too far from your neck of the woods right?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I knew that much. I was wondering where in NYC. Manahttan? Brooklyn? If Manhattan, where in Manhattan - midtown?
Never mind. I just found the website.
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<strong>I read just yesterday that one of the guys from Phish was saying "We didn't break up, we're on hiatus." Not that it makes a difference (especially not to me since I don't give a rat's ass about Phish) but I'd hate to have some Phish fan slashing his wrists over slightly inaccurate information about the group's demise.</strong><hr></blockquote>
nothing slightly inaccurate. they broke up.
yea, I'm sure the status could have changed to "hiatus" when they realized that none of them had a future as a solo artists and needed cash
1) The Beatles
2) Ramones
3) Led Zeppelin
4) Bob Marley and the Wailers
5) Nirvana
6) Parliament/Funkadelic
7) The Clash
8) Public Enemy
9) The Rolling Stones
10) Beastie Boys
11) The Velvet Underground
12) Sly and the Family Stone
13) U2
14) Run-D.M.C.
15) Radiohead
16) The Jimi Hendrix Experience
17) Sonic Youth
18) AC/DC
19) The Stooges
20) Metallica
21) The Smiths
22) Patti Smith Group
23) N.W.A.
24) Kraftwerk
25) The Sex Pistols
26) Pearl Jam
27) Grateful Dead
28) R.E.M.
29) Black Sabbath
30) Pavement
31) Fugazi
32) Kiss
33) Pretenders
34) Rage Against the Machine
35) Fela Kuti & Afrika 70/Egypt 80
36) David Bowie and the Spiders From Mars
37) Blondie
38) Bad Brains
39) The Who
40) Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five
41) New Order
42) Hüsker Dü
43) Guns N' Roses
44) Outkast
45) The Beach Boys
46) Massive Attack
47) Lynrd Skynrd
48) KoRn
49) Pink Floyd
50) Red Hot Chili Peppers
I'm not much of a Phish fan. I think, being a jam band, they're not the kind of musicians that 'hook you' with a CD. But I don't think they sound much like The Dead, even though they have that kind of fan base etc. They might have the same style, but a different sound.
Once, (some time ago) a friend of mine won two good tickets to go see Phish at Sandstone in KC so we went up there with these uh, tainted cubes. Well, we weren't familiar with the music at all and of course the rest of the crowd was. My friend and I sat, wide eyed, in our chairs the whole time, while everyone around us was singing along and cheering at all the 'right parts'. There was one song where everyone would yell in unison, then clap, or something like that. We looked at each other and just busted out laughing because we realized we had absolutely no idea what was going on.
I'd previously heard a couple of songs through friends but I just didn't know how/when I was supposed to get involved - you just can't tell these things from listening to a CD. I was awfully relieved when they played "bouncing around the room" and that "swinging from my vines" song. At least I wasn't at a complete loss.
You're either into Phish or you're not. I guess I'm not.
The music was pretty good though. And they had a decent light show.
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Greatest record of the 90s: My Bloody Valentine: "Loveless". It was so radical that it destroyed the whole scene.
At least the Bboys made it in at 10 but putting PF so low invalidates the whole list. I stopped reading spin a while ago. I thought they were out of publication.
<strong>Weird list. I can agree on many of the names but they screwed up much of the order. For instance: Nirvana at 5 and Sonic Youth only at 17? t should be the exact opposite. And where are any of the bands from the english late80/early90 indie scene? Bands like My Bloody Valentine, Charlatans, Ride, Swervedriver? That scene (esp. MBV) was more innovative than any of the grounge bands (despite the popularity of the latter) and I even saw (and was fan of) Pearl Jam, Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins at venues with sub-500 audience in early 90s.
Greatest record of the 90s: My Bloody Valentine: "Loveless". It was so radical that it destroyed the whole scene.</strong><hr></blockquote>
uggg... I can't stand Sonic Youth. I sat through their hour of crappy music 3 days in a row because they opened for Pearl Jam. I know a lot of people regard them highly but god I just don't see anything there.
BTW, isn't that Spin list a list of the most "influential" bands and not best bands of all time?
But OTOH it does talk about their influence a lot...
Dylan or Beatles more influentual? Well, Dylan had a huge influence on the Beatles. Anyone think Dylan was influenced by the Beatles?
As far as hot live bands / "Jam Bands ", no one holds a candle to <a href="http://www.radiators.org"; target="_blank">The Radiators</a>
Think Stevie Ray Vaughn meets Little Feat meets Grateful Dead..... and they are a bar band, so you can actually get up close and SEE what they play. Much like the Dead, they rotate about 500 songs, and no two shows are ever the same, and their fans are, well, VERY devoted.... much like we are with our Macs