I'm wondering how it will be in a cold winter-day... btw heating that huge space, well, this is a kind of architecture just thinking about design but not functionality.
And what about the noise? if there are just half of as many people as can fit conveniently, they must whistle for not to disturb each other.
My question is, where does the glass staircase lead to? Evidently it's a room under the main floor, but for what?
EDIT: Looks to me that the checkout counter and 3rd party accessories area is probably on the lower level... but why would they require people go downstairs and then back up? Weird.
I've only been to one Apple store, but the one here in San Francisco has two floors. For this store in NYC to have two floors looked normal to me, but maybe not. The one in SF has most computers and accessories on the first floor and the second I think is for the guru folks, in-store training, and more accessories. Don't quote me on that since I only went up there once. Anyway, just saying I would imagine other stores have two levels.
How does your own johnson taste after telling that you lived on the Upper West side not far from Seinfeld...? After not so subliminally suggesting (or just flat out telling) you are must make or made or lived with someone who made a well above avg income or more and can afford to live near wealthy celebs?
Some people can be so funny, always needing validation and a look at me moment!
Back to topic, the store looks great - but similar to the other NYC store, so not that big of a deal. This store reminds me of the new Dallas Cowboys stadium with the big Apple logo being the Cowboys video board. Just my sports connection.
:later.
Obviously, you've never been to NYC or you''d know that our neighborhoods are diverse and one bum could be living a block from a King Midas.
As far as my johnston goes .........................
What about the Barnes and Noble, the Tower Records, the Loews Movie Theater, or even the Victoria's Secret that the Apple Store replaced. Those we not conservative stores. They have (or had) large bright signage and giant windows.
Tower Records has been closed for 2 years. Where've you been?
You could theoretically heat and cool it pretty efficiently-- displacement ventilation and 20' diameter BigAssFans make for a pretty effective solution, but no BigAssFans here to be seen. Lighting also looks like a mess; Apple could do a lot to improve in that area.
Obviously, you've never been to NYC or you''d know that our neighborhoods are diverse and one bum could be living a block from a King Midas.
I am from CT, college in NY... I know NYC like the back of my hand and I do know neighborhoods changes within 1-2 blocks. Don't so vaguely suggest you lived in an area with rich people and celebs then backtrack and say you lived just out of their reach. That's like me saying everyone in my area drives Mercedes and Rolls Royce, but then later saying, but not me, because I live 1 block away -- then why mention it if not to try to connect myself to it all? Don't mention something in regards to you if it doesn't pertain to you, say you lived just past the area or close to them, but not a part of them.
... I'd be willing to bet you that heating/cooling the place will be easy, and efficient. Obviously heating should be easy. Most of the time, the sunshine will do a fine job of that. Cooling could actually be super slick too - depending on the design. The sheer volume of the space helps. Most of the heat will stay in the upper, unoccupied portion of the building. If the ceiling vents, and if cool underground air flows into the lower floor, they will have a mighty efficient convection cooled building.
As for materials, I don't know many items that are more 'green' than glass, aluminum, and stone. Good job Apple, it's an amazing looking building, and hopefully efficient.
I think you are right about the design but I can also think of something "more green," which is ... plants!
I know it's probably sacrilege for an Apple store but there isn't a building in the world that can't have it's air improved by the simple addition of plants.
The vast majority of Offices and buildings don't have enough natural light to support actual plant life. It's kind of a crying shame that a building like that should be so sterile when you could actually plant oak trees inside it. Even a spaceship has more life in it that that place.
a bit sterile like a friend here said, but grand and beautiful nevertheless. Glass is such a beautiful structural element (that does take a lot of cleaning). Nice curves, a bit too minimal, but minimal is good. I would probably go for some darker shades (darker as in very slightly darker beige say to give it a warmer feel to complement the glass), but that's a matter of taste.
Good luck to the store and to all the good people involved with running it. I am sure it will provide a great customer shopping experience.
I absolutely love high airy ceilings and this is the epitome.
Great suggestion for the plants. I would go for big pots with a few actual trees, small ones.
I am from CT, college in NY... I know NYC like the back of my hand and I do know neighborhoods changes within 1-2 blocks. Don't so vaguely suggest you lived in an area with rich people and celebs then backtrack and say you lived just out of their reach. That's like me saying everyone in my area drives Mercedes and Rolls Royce, but then later saying, but not me, because I live 1 block away -- then why mention it if not to try to connect myself to it all? Don't mention something in regards to you if it doesn't pertain to you, say you lived just past the area or close to them, but not a part of them.
I simply mentioned it because he's the pitch man of the failed Microsoft TV ads- nothing more and nothing less. You read your own fud into it.
This is just disgusting. There's no need to get pornographic and it just shows how low you are wiling to go to make a point.
You have succeeded at the impossible.
Making yourself even *less* respectable than teckstud.
Thank you. Only you could quantify respectability....
.... the very one, you Gazoobee, who in a prior thread equates the USA with Nazi Germany because we simply are proud of our flag in time of war. NOw that is pornographic and disgusting. Shame on you Gazoobee. We are all still awaiting your apology.
And spoken by the very one, you Gazoobee, who equates the USA with Nazi Germany because we simply are proud of our flag in time of war. NOw that is pornographic and disgusting. Shame on you Gazoobee.
Just for the record techstud, I for one didn't read anything offensive into your statements about the Upper West Side.
Just for comparison though, if you're interested, see if you can find an image of the entry to subway station 72. Lot's of design cues in there. Perhaps Apple expects their new store to be as busy...
Just for the record techstud, I for one didn't read anything offensive into your statements about the Upper West Side.
Just for comparison though, if you're interested, see if you can find an image of the entry to subway station 72. Lot's of design cues in there. Perhaps Apple expects their new store to be as busy...
Best.
Cool- thanks. I think it's a cool design. The neighborhood has long changed over the years anyway. It's basically a bunch of ugly high rises now in the West 60s anyway. It will add some much needed luster along with the newly renovated dLincoln Center. . The only time I visit there these days is on my bike back from the park. I will check it out. It will do very well 'cause us New Yorkers love to shop and APple products are great.
Cool- thanks. I think it's a cool design. The neighborhood has long changed over the years anyway. It's basically a bunch of ugly high rises now in the West 60s anyway. It will add some much needed luster along with the newly renovated dLincoln Center. . The only time I visit there these days is on my bike back from the park. I will check it out. It will do very well 'cause us New Yorkers love to shop and APple products are great.
If by 'bike' you mean bicycle, I'm envious. I would like so much to have had my bike in Central Park in July of last year when I was visiting. What a fantastic venue for cycling! I ride a Trek Madone.
All of us who've used Macs for some time will remember the small store owner who did his best to support the local community of users. It's sad that they often had such a hard time but the future for Apple in marketing is perhaps obvious when one considers the income generated by their own stores. This new one will attract attention at least.
Sigh.....I imagine you are not really concerned about being right or wrong. You just like to argue for the sake of argument.
I actually think he believes he is correct. I think he has a delusional disorder.
The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders defines a delusion as?
A false belief based on incorrect inference about external reality that is firmly sustained despite what almost everybody else believes and despite what constitutes incontrovertible and obvious proof or evidence to the contrary. The belief is not one ordinarily accepted by other members of the person's culture or subculture.
I don't think the stage metaphor really works here.
I walked past the new store last night after seeing Janáček's "From the House of the Dead" at the Metropolitan Opera. (A fantastic production, BTW.) And I gotta say, the stage metaphor is a perfect metaphor.
3 sides are of what looks like a textured stone-like material and the 4th side is open... pretty much like a stage. The ceiling is so high (25 to 30 feet by my eye) that it recedes and nearly disappears. But that was at night, so it'll be interesting to see it in daylight. The lighting is bright and dramatic as are the Apple product posters in a band along the "stone" walls. It almost seems like you'd be outdoors. It's certainly IS a stage!
I can't wait to check out the downstairs space.
In a way, it's almost anti-architectural... the interior space that the building contains is far more interesting than the building itself. But again, I want to see it in the day time.
I actually think he believes he is correct. I think he has a delusional disorder.
The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders defines a delusion as?
A false belief based on incorrect inference about external reality that is firmly sustained despite what almost everybody else believes and despite what constitutes incontrovertible and obvious proof or evidence to the contrary. The belief is not one ordinarily accepted by other members of the person's culture or subculture.
Sound like anyone we know?
Is that what your magic mirror tells you while you wave your magic mouse at it?
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And what about the noise? if there are just half of as many people as can fit conveniently, they must whistle for not to disturb each other.
My question is, where does the glass staircase lead to? Evidently it's a room under the main floor, but for what?
EDIT: Looks to me that the checkout counter and 3rd party accessories area is probably on the lower level... but why would they require people go downstairs and then back up? Weird.
I've only been to one Apple store, but the one here in San Francisco has two floors. For this store in NYC to have two floors looked normal to me, but maybe not. The one in SF has most computers and accessories on the first floor and the second I think is for the guru folks, in-store training, and more accessories. Don't quote me on that since I only went up there once. Anyway, just saying I would imagine other stores have two levels.
How does your own johnson taste after telling that you lived on the Upper West side not far from Seinfeld...? After not so subliminally suggesting (or just flat out telling) you are must make or made or lived with someone who made a well above avg income or more and can afford to live near wealthy celebs?
Some people can be so funny, always needing validation and a look at me moment!
Back to topic, the store looks great - but similar to the other NYC store, so not that big of a deal. This store reminds me of the new Dallas Cowboys stadium with the big Apple logo being the Cowboys video board. Just my sports connection.
:later.
Obviously, you've never been to NYC or you''d know that our neighborhoods are diverse and one bum could be living a block from a King Midas.
As far as my johnston goes .........................
What about the Barnes and Noble, the Tower Records, the Loews Movie Theater, or even the Victoria's Secret that the Apple Store replaced. Those we not conservative stores. They have (or had) large bright signage and giant windows.
Tower Records has been closed for 2 years. Where've you been?
Obviously, you've never been to NYC or you''d know that our neighborhoods are diverse and one bum could be living a block from a King Midas.
I am from CT, college in NY... I know NYC like the back of my hand and I do know neighborhoods changes within 1-2 blocks. Don't so vaguely suggest you lived in an area with rich people and celebs then backtrack and say you lived just out of their reach. That's like me saying everyone in my area drives Mercedes and Rolls Royce, but then later saying, but not me, because I live 1 block away -- then why mention it if not to try to connect myself to it all? Don't mention something in regards to you if it doesn't pertain to you, say you lived just past the area or close to them, but not a part of them.
How does your own johnson taste ... .
This is just disgusting. There's no need to get pornographic and it just shows how low you are wiling to go to make a point.
You have succeeded at the impossible.
Making yourself even *less* respectable than teckstud.
... I'd be willing to bet you that heating/cooling the place will be easy, and efficient. Obviously heating should be easy. Most of the time, the sunshine will do a fine job of that. Cooling could actually be super slick too - depending on the design. The sheer volume of the space helps. Most of the heat will stay in the upper, unoccupied portion of the building. If the ceiling vents, and if cool underground air flows into the lower floor, they will have a mighty efficient convection cooled building.
As for materials, I don't know many items that are more 'green' than glass, aluminum, and stone. Good job Apple, it's an amazing looking building, and hopefully efficient.
I think you are right about the design but I can also think of something "more green," which is ... plants!
I know it's probably sacrilege for an Apple store but there isn't a building in the world that can't have it's air improved by the simple addition of plants.
The vast majority of Offices and buildings don't have enough natural light to support actual plant life. It's kind of a crying shame that a building like that should be so sterile when you could actually plant oak trees inside it. Even a spaceship has more life in it that that place.
Good luck to the store and to all the good people involved with running it. I am sure it will provide a great customer shopping experience.
I absolutely love high airy ceilings and this is the epitome.
Great suggestion for the plants. I would go for big pots with a few actual trees, small ones.
I don't think the stage metaphor really works here.
Ha,ha,ha, such a funny thing to say.
I am from CT, college in NY... I know NYC like the back of my hand and I do know neighborhoods changes within 1-2 blocks. Don't so vaguely suggest you lived in an area with rich people and celebs then backtrack and say you lived just out of their reach. That's like me saying everyone in my area drives Mercedes and Rolls Royce, but then later saying, but not me, because I live 1 block away -- then why mention it if not to try to connect myself to it all? Don't mention something in regards to you if it doesn't pertain to you, say you lived just past the area or close to them, but not a part of them.
I simply mentioned it because he's the pitch man of the failed Microsoft TV ads- nothing more and nothing less. You read your own fud into it.
This is just disgusting. There's no need to get pornographic and it just shows how low you are wiling to go to make a point.
You have succeeded at the impossible.
Making yourself even *less* respectable than teckstud.
Thank you. Only you could quantify respectability....
.... the very one, you Gazoobee, who in a prior thread equates the USA with Nazi Germany because we simply are proud of our flag in time of war. NOw that is pornographic and disgusting. Shame on you Gazoobee. We are all still awaiting your apology.
Thank you. Only you could quantify lowliness.
And spoken by the very one, you Gazoobee, who equates the USA with Nazi Germany because we simply are proud of our flag in time of war. NOw that is pornographic and disgusting. Shame on you Gazoobee.
Just for the record techstud, I for one didn't read anything offensive into your statements about the Upper West Side.
Just for comparison though, if you're interested, see if you can find an image of the entry to subway station 72. Lot's of design cues in there. Perhaps Apple expects their new store to be as busy...
Best.
Just for the record techstud, I for one didn't read anything offensive into your statements about the Upper West Side.
Just for comparison though, if you're interested, see if you can find an image of the entry to subway station 72. Lot's of design cues in there. Perhaps Apple expects their new store to be as busy...
Best.
Cool- thanks. I think it's a cool design. The neighborhood has long changed over the years anyway. It's basically a bunch of ugly high rises now in the West 60s anyway. It will add some much needed luster along with the newly renovated dLincoln Center. . The only time I visit there these days is on my bike back from the park. I will check it out. It will do very well 'cause us New Yorkers love to shop and APple products are great.
Cool- thanks. I think it's a cool design. The neighborhood has long changed over the years anyway. It's basically a bunch of ugly high rises now in the West 60s anyway. It will add some much needed luster along with the newly renovated dLincoln Center. . The only time I visit there these days is on my bike back from the park. I will check it out. It will do very well 'cause us New Yorkers love to shop and APple products are great.
If by 'bike' you mean bicycle, I'm envious. I would like so much to have had my bike in Central Park in July of last year when I was visiting. What a fantastic venue for cycling! I ride a Trek Madone.
All of us who've used Macs for some time will remember the small store owner who did his best to support the local community of users. It's sad that they often had such a hard time but the future for Apple in marketing is perhaps obvious when one considers the income generated by their own stores. This new one will attract attention at least.
Take care.
Sigh.....I imagine you are not really concerned about being right or wrong. You just like to argue for the sake of argument.
The essential point is that when Tower was open, its presence on Broadway was not at all subtle.
The Apple Store sits right across the street from this four story movie theater.
Tower Records has been closed for 2 years. Where've you been?
Sigh.....I imagine you are not really concerned about being right or wrong. You just like to argue for the sake of argument.
I actually think he believes he is correct. I think he has a delusional disorder.
The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders defines a delusion as? Sound like anyone we know?
I don't think the stage metaphor really works here.
I walked past the new store last night after seeing Janáček's "From the House of the Dead" at the Metropolitan Opera. (A fantastic production, BTW.) And I gotta say, the stage metaphor is a perfect metaphor.
3 sides are of what looks like a textured stone-like material and the 4th side is open... pretty much like a stage. The ceiling is so high (25 to 30 feet by my eye) that it recedes and nearly disappears. But that was at night, so it'll be interesting to see it in daylight. The lighting is bright and dramatic as are the Apple product posters in a band along the "stone" walls. It almost seems like you'd be outdoors. It's certainly IS a stage!
I can't wait to check out the downstairs space.
In a way, it's almost anti-architectural... the interior space that the building contains is far more interesting than the building itself. But again, I want to see it in the day time.
It's a gorgeous grand statement.
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Sigh.....I imagine you are not really concerned about being right or wrong. You just like to argue for the sake of argument.
The essential point is that when Tower was open, its presence on Broadway was not at all subtle.
The Apple Store sits right across the street from this four story movie theater.
So now you're trying to explain that a sign is the same as a structural building? And you and solipsism think I have a disorder?
I actually think he believes he is correct. I think he has a delusional disorder.
The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders defines a delusion as? Sound like anyone we know?
Is that what your magic mirror tells you while you wave your magic mouse at it?