French foreign minister speaks out
<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/europe/newsid_1805000/1805341.stm"; target="_blank">On french radio</a>
I agree with him in the substance but the reason for this thread is something different:
1: Why isn´t this on cnn.com anywhere? When I made a search on his name and the latest article is from 28-Jan-02 and is about Israel. Isn´t this more important for US than what he says about Israel?
2: This is most probably a reaction to the Iran-N.Korea-Iraq part of Bush speech. Is this good or bad that international partners react like this?
I agree with him in the substance but the reason for this thread is something different:
1: Why isn´t this on cnn.com anywhere? When I made a search on his name and the latest article is from 28-Jan-02 and is about Israel. Isn´t this more important for US than what he says about Israel?
2: This is most probably a reaction to the Iran-N.Korea-Iraq part of Bush speech. Is this good or bad that international partners react like this?
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What a shame! (Both the narrowminded US media and the narrowminded US president.) Wish I could vote in this country.
Escher
(US resident, French citizen)
<strong>France = Irrelevant</strong><hr></blockquote>
That explains your attitude towards my #2 question but why is the french foreign minister relevant when he speaks about Israel but not when he say something about US-french relations?
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That explains your attitude towards my #2 question but why is the french foreign minister relevant when he speaks about Israel but not when he say something about US-french relations?</strong><hr></blockquote>
France = Irrelevant all the time
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France = Irrelevant all the time</strong><hr></blockquote>
Funny because it seems like they are only irrelevant to CNN when their foreign minister is talking about USA and not when its about a a third country <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
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Funny because it seems like they are only irrelevant to CNN when their foreign minister is talking about USA and not when its about a a third country
I don't run CNN so I couldn't say. It seems CNN can be a little slow to pick up on stories that are not "beaking news". Besides it's not news when a European leader bitches about the US. See if it comes up in the NYT.
But anyway what the **** does france care? They wont do any of the fighting. They wont solve any of the problems. They wont suffer any major impact due to any of it.
France = Irrelevant
[ 02-06-2002: Message edited by: Scott H. ]</p>
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I don't run CNN so I couldn't say. It seems CNN can be a little slow to pick up on stories that are not "beaking news".</strong><hr></blockquote>
No I can understand that. All those people involved in the breaking AND developing news (I got a mail from them with CAPITAL letters in the subject field so I knew it was importent) about the treatment of Bush harmless skin cancer a month ago. It must have drained their resoursers. Hope the involved journalists have been rewarded with a good and long vacation on Hawaii for their good work. I am the first to recognise CNN´s need to sort between those stories that are newsworthy and those that are not.
Speaking about it: Anyone seen the front page of CNN.com today? About the man who placed a huge fan on each shoulder to be able to fly? That is importent for people to know about.
[ 02-06-2002: Message edited by: Anders ]</p>
The French Diplomat to England called Israel a shitty little country. He still has his job. Some diplomat.
France wastes little time putting down the US yet whines like a schoolgirl for our help anytime a problem arises.
France allowed Arab terrrists to go unabated through France in the seventies as long as they promised not to attack French targets. Biggest bunch of pussies in the world.
France as an ally? Better off without them.............
And while I love scott's rash answers, I can assure him that the french foreign minister is not aone in his views. Many Americans, in fact, feel the same way.The educated ones, mostly...
<strong>It would be difficult to find a more worthless country than France. What exactly do they stand for? They are cowards, anti-semites, anti-American, anti-everything that isn't frog.</strong><hr></blockquote>
And I hear they are prejudiced too. All of them.
I won't go into the whole debate about France being "worthless". As someone who grew up in France and now resides in the U.S., I have a different perspective on America. As much as I love it here (in sunny California :cool: ), there are things that I wish were different.
Yes, America is a great country, but it's not the center of the world.
[ 02-06-2002: Message edited by: lolo ]</p>
Speaking about it: Anyone seen the front page of CNN.com today? About the man who placed a huge fan on each shoulder to be able to fly? That is importent for people to know about.
Holy merde! I missed that?! That's fantastique! Seriously that is cool as hell.
<strong>And while I love scott's rash answers, I can assure him that the french foreign minister is not aone in his views. Many Americans, in fact, feel the same way.The educated ones, mostly...
Well when the countries we need start bitching then we'll listen. We stopped listening to the liberal elite in this country when the blamed the US for 9-11.
crickets cherp
First of all pull you head out of your Ass, America, as lolo put it, is not the center of the world!
Second, have a little respect for the French, after all with out them America could have lost the war of indepenence and the US would still be under British rule.
it is perhaps hard for Europeans to see that what is news for them is not necessarily news here. While French attitudes towards the US war effort may very well be known "inside the Beltway" (i.e., in Washington DC), for the rest of the country these opinions are difficult to present as newsworthy.
After all, from an American perspective there are opinions coming from China, England, France, Germany, Brazil, Israel, Japan, etc...and the media does not report on each of these.
Personally I'd like to see more of this kind of news, but I'm not in CNN's target demographic. Neither are you, Anders. But Scott_H might be.
let's chill on the french bashing...
remember that the person with his finger on the trigger is half-french *cough cough*
Jonathan "benmoijesuisunpeutfrancais!"
[quote]It would be difficult to find a more worthless country than France. What exactly do they stand for? They are cowards, anti-semites, anti-American, anti-everything that isn't frog.<hr></blockquote>
The ignorance of this post is astounding. Its amazing how you generalize an entire population as cowards, anit-semites, and anit-American. You are almost as ignorant as the bastards responsible for 9/11. To call France a nation of cowards is a gross misjustice. Need I remind you of the French resistance durring WWII? Thousands of resistors where tortured and killed in the pursuit of the freedom for their country. To call them a nation of cowards and against everything except frogs is a slap in the face.
In fact our Independance would not have been possible without the French comming in on our side. You should watch your comments more carefully, and try not to give us a bad name.
2.)To be frank it really dosnt matter to the Bush administration that other countries react like this. They will do what they think is best for this country. Not you, not Denmark, not Sweden, not Cananda, not France. Only America. This can actualy be very good in some cases. And in others bad.
But the fact remains that while it would be nice that these countries aprove of what the Administration in doing, it really dosnt matter. Becuase America can do what it wants without the help of any country (for better or for worse).
As far this French person's view on American foreign policy im not so sure I agree with him. I dont like Bush all that much, and thought his state of the union address was stupid. But to call the United State's foreign policy single minded is un-true. Yes fighting Terrorism is now the cheif priority, but is far from the only one. The reason that I think this country has taken to fighting terrorism so heartily is of course 9/11, but also the fact that it seems like a fight that is worth fighting. A fight that has somesort of ending to it. And a fight that will really make a difference in the world.