f. flash. forget about it. It's crap, and html 5 specifications just do away with it. Nobody gives a flying f. about flash anymore, even once flash websites have stopped using it, it's not user friendly, it's a hog on resources, there's a whole list on way flash sucks.
Bullshit propaganda... have you tried to explain that to all the web sites still using flash?
I'm using my iPhone quite a bit, and number of my web searches that will end with "Missing pluggin" is too high for my taste... especially that Flash requirement is more often on media-related sites (such as movies and video games web sites), and iPad should be media related device.
I'm all for scrapping Flash and using new standards supported by my iPhone, but at present I might just as well be for scrapping English, French, Indian, Chinese... and using Esperanto world wide; not going to happen right now, if ever.
Agreed. £499? Add on another £200 in "Apple Only"" accessories and you have a semi usable product. Does anyone here seriously want to say they will type for several hours on a flat screen with no feedback vs a keyboard?
Nice enough product of you are an iPhone user/lover; and plenty are - but plenty are not. Still tethered to iTunes, still mollycoddled and spoon fed apps by the approval committee. Not a real OS to many people. Watch video? Certainly - if you have downloaded it from iTunes or have spent the time converting it to a suitable format. On a proper computer, with a real keyboard, that does real things.
I am extremely underwhelmed. If MS had released this last month you would be ridiculing it as an uninspired iPhone clone. Which is what it is.
I'm surprised with the no multitasking, but hopeful that they are waiting to introduce it with iPhone OS 4.0. This device is still two months from shipping, things could change. V2 will definitely be better though.
Did they specifically state no multitasking? I wasn't watching that closely.
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Very interesting device! Lots to like, lots missing. No phone capabilities on the 3G version? .
I would have been very surprised to have a built in phone. Why would Apple cannibalize the iPhone market with this device?
MS Office support, coupled with some kind of a physical interface to display presentations on a projector would make it possible for me to travel w/o my notebook, which would translate to an instant purchase. Yes, some LCD/DLP projectors have WiFi interface, but I haven't run into anyone who has actually used this, yet.
You raise an interesting point. How would I connect it to a projector for my Keynote presentations? I hope there's some reasonably easy way...... another adapter, I suppose.....
I was wrong on the name (predicted iSlate), the price (predicted $500, but subsidized by the plan), right on predicting the iWorks and other functionality.
In my mind the tabled would be a lot more wide screen, but I guess they went for "there is really no up or down" design. Kindle will survive because of the glare (it will be hard to read this on the L when it is sunny outside).
Overall, if I had any need for a netbook I would grab the lowest end version. Since I have a 13 inch MB and a 17inch display to connect it to, I really have no use for this, but be careful, I am not saying that this is useless, I am saying that I don't need a netbook and therefore don't need an iPad. Those who do need a netbook will be very satisfied with this (especially when iOS 4.0 comes out).
The iMaxiPad...a big fat iPod Touch. A useless device.
Someone commented that they would take that on vacation instead, and manage their photos. How do you plan on doing that without your Mac to sync the photos via iTunes? Nice try!
I would do it with the built-in MobileMe application they're sure to release, if it's not already there. Or via the web with Picassa, Flickr, MobileMe, etc.
If the thing's wirelessly connected, those limitations aren't as severe as you imply.
It's all about the cloud, and if Apple can get you to buy MobileMe for added functionality with this thing, then that's just more money in their bank.
The device has potential for great success, but typical apple the first model is on the weak side to gauge user acceptance. I'll wait for the 3rd generation one. Great device though...
The bezel is there so you can get a good enough grip on it without touching the touch screen, does look awkward though
Cases are always extra with Apple.. nothing new
We'll see about attachments, I don't think there is a problem with formats that Apple supports through first party applications, so iWork should help there. In the end, it is and has always been intended to be a companion device, so there are some restrictions for the sake of usability.
Thanks for the ePub info. I stand corrected (as I said, I was hoping someone would disprove my assumption!) in terms of what the iPad can read. But is Apple's iBook format also ePub or something that a Nook, or Kindle (heh, that's got its own DRM crazy) or Sony eReader can use?
Here's a thought. If I already have an iPhone for which I pay AT&T $30/month for UNLIMITED data, I think I shouldn't have to pay again to get UNLIMITED data, or any data, on the iPad. My reasoning is this. If you are using your iPad, it's unlikely you will be using your iPhone simultaneously. I suppose you could get a phone call while you're on your iPad, but that's not data, that's voice. So technically, I'm still only using one stream of data at a time on an Apple 3G device on the AT&T network. On stream of data = one UNLIMITED data plan. Anyone buying this logic?
Did they specifically state no multitasking? I wasn't watching that closely.
No they didn't, but the Engadget blog said it looked like it didn't have it. Apple will make a big deal out of it when they do bring it in. It isn't a feature you could miss by not paying attention.
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f. flash. forget about it. It's crap, and html 5 specifications just do away with it. Nobody gives a flying f. about flash anymore, even once flash websites have stopped using it, it's not user friendly, it's a hog on resources, there's a whole list on way flash sucks.
Bullshit propaganda... have you tried to explain that to all the web sites still using flash?
I'm using my iPhone quite a bit, and number of my web searches that will end with "Missing pluggin" is too high for my taste... especially that Flash requirement is more often on media-related sites (such as movies and video games web sites), and iPad should be media related device.
I'm all for scrapping Flash and using new standards supported by my iPhone, but at present I might just as well be for scrapping English, French, Indian, Chinese... and using Esperanto world wide; not going to happen right now, if ever.
Nice enough product of you are an iPhone user/lover; and plenty are - but plenty are not. Still tethered to iTunes, still mollycoddled and spoon fed apps by the approval committee. Not a real OS to many people. Watch video? Certainly - if you have downloaded it from iTunes or have spent the time converting it to a suitable format. On a proper computer, with a real keyboard, that does real things.
I am extremely underwhelmed. If MS had released this last month you would be ridiculing it as an uninspired iPhone clone. Which is what it is.
where is Ireland??? I hate to think of how he feels right now..
Sick!
I'm surprised with the no multitasking, but hopeful that they are waiting to introduce it with iPhone OS 4.0. This device is still two months from shipping, things could change. V2 will definitely be better though.
Did they specifically state no multitasking? I wasn't watching that closely.
Very interesting device! Lots to like, lots missing. No phone capabilities on the 3G version? .
I would have been very surprised to have a built in phone. Why would Apple cannibalize the iPhone market with this device?
To the poster above, it uses the ePub format for e... erm 'iBooks'.
Does it have a USB or SD card slot so I can move my photos onto it while on vacation?
There's a camera connection kit that plugs into the 30 pin connector to allow this.
http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/
Seems like they could've put these in the device itself...maybe a future version.
MS Office support, coupled with some kind of a physical interface to display presentations on a projector would make it possible for me to travel w/o my notebook, which would translate to an instant purchase. Yes, some LCD/DLP projectors have WiFi interface, but I haven't run into anyone who has actually used this, yet.
You raise an interesting point. How would I connect it to a projector for my Keynote presentations? I hope there's some reasonably easy way...... another adapter, I suppose.....
In my mind the tabled would be a lot more wide screen, but I guess they went for "there is really no up or down" design. Kindle will survive because of the glare (it will be hard to read this on the L when it is sunny outside).
Overall, if I had any need for a netbook I would grab the lowest end version. Since I have a 13 inch MB and a 17inch display to connect it to, I really have no use for this, but be careful, I am not saying that this is useless, I am saying that I don't need a netbook and therefore don't need an iPad. Those who do need a netbook will be very satisfied with this (especially when iOS 4.0 comes out).
game over before it started... at least for me.
The iMaxiPad...a big fat iPod Touch. A useless device.
Someone commented that they would take that on vacation instead, and manage their photos. How do you plan on doing that without your Mac to sync the photos via iTunes? Nice try!
I would do it with the built-in MobileMe application they're sure to release, if it's not already there. Or via the web with Picassa, Flickr, MobileMe, etc.
If the thing's wirelessly connected, those limitations aren't as severe as you imply.
It's all about the cloud, and if Apple can get you to buy MobileMe for added functionality with this thing, then that's just more money in their bank.
There are a lot of trolls here today...
Not everyone who isn't loving this is a troll...No multitasking, no flash, no MBP updates...I for one am very underwhelmed.
10 hours of video and 30 days of standby is a minus?
I personally never thought video chat was coming to this, I understand some wanted it though.
Multitasking in iPhone OS 4.0 (I hope)
It uses the ePub format
The bezel is there so you can get a good enough grip on it without touching the touch screen, does look awkward though
Cases are always extra with Apple.. nothing new
We'll see about attachments, I don't think there is a problem with formats that Apple supports through first party applications, so iWork should help there. In the end, it is and has always been intended to be a companion device, so there are some restrictions for the sake of usability.
Thanks for the ePub info. I stand corrected (as I said, I was hoping someone would disprove my assumption!) in terms of what the iPad can read. But is Apple's iBook format also ePub or something that a Nook, or Kindle (heh, that's got its own DRM crazy) or Sony eReader can use?
.... but at present I might just as well be for scrapping English, French, Indian, Chinese... and using Esperanto ....
There is no language called 'Indian.'
There are a lot of trolls here today...
And even more Apple butt-boys...
Did they specifically state no multitasking? I wasn't watching that closely.
No they didn't, but the Engadget blog said it looked like it didn't have it. Apple will make a big deal out of it when they do bring it in. It isn't a feature you could miss by not paying attention.
There's a camera connection kit that plugs into the 30 pin connector to allow this.
http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/
Seems like they could've put these in the device itself...maybe a future version.
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That kit's all good and well, but does nothing to explain why a bezel so gargantuan is not be utilized to its full potential.
Bottom Line: There's really no excuse for not including a camera on the iPad.[/CENTER]
"Five big partners... Penguin, Macmillion, Simon & Shuster... and more."
LOL. McGraw-Hill got ditched from the presentation
You would think Apple would have preferred to show more partners rather than less, but just as long as Steve Jobs got his revenge...