If they go back to the glued screen system that will not only make the screen more expensive to replace (as pointed out in a previous post) but also makes it a bit more vulnerable to damage.
One morning while running errands I left my phone charging in the car. It was left for about three hours in the car and the outside temperatures climbed from around 75 degrees F to about 92. With the combined heat from the ambient air and charging it became so hot I could barely hold it. The end result was that I caused the screen to delaminate in one corner. It looks like rows of stuck pixels but is actually caused from the delimitation. I am just a bit disappointed that Apple went back to that process.
As to folks complaining about the screen, what is so bad about the current ones? Although I must admit, for whatever reason, the one on my wife's 1st generation 4gb (bought on clearance after Apple discontinued it) has the brightest, clearest, and most vibrant color screen of any iphone I have handled including the 3gs. Go figure.
Well some say there is a 75% chance that AT&T continues to be the sole provider for the iPhone while other rumors indicate that there is an 80% chance that Verizon will get it. So that means there is a 160% chance that something is going to happen that 50% of people are going to be pissed about 100% of the time.
It amazes me when everyone is so against or don't understand video calling. The fact is that most 3G phones in Europe have it, so its a competitive feature. It was also one of the first selling points of 3G and having used it I can say it works quite well.
Multimedia was always the point of 3G. It was to allow you to now access video on your device (YouTube wasn't big yet, but TV clips etc..) In addition all the phone came out with the front facing camera that allowed video calling. I used it a few times, especially since my carrier in Europe at the time offered a promotion for free video calls in order to push 3G pickup. That was back in 2005 and it worked surprisingly well. So I can't imagine Apple would have that much of a hard time to include iChat and have it work according to the desktop version with the addition of perhaps video calling numbers where carriers supported it (i.e. all of europe).
That new screen bezel looks to make the iPhone 4G have about the same screen size as a Nexus One (3.7"). I was hoping to get a 4.2 or 4.3 out of Apple next, since some of the Android device makers are rumored to be working on devices with that size.
It amazes me when everyone is so against or don't understand video calling. The fact is that most 3G phones in Europe have it, so its a competitive feature. It was also one of the first selling points of 3G and having used it I can say it works quite well.
I agree that at some point I have seen it in a couple of TV ads, but it never took of. I have never heard of anybody doing a video call from a mobile phone.
I agree that at some point I have seen it in a couple of TV ads, but it never took of. I have never heard of anybody doing a video call from a mobile phone.
It's a feature without a market. That's the problem with a lot of "features". They're there, but people don't use them. So do they matter? Not really, except to a very few.
That's the problem with the iPhone in that the looks won't ever change. It is basically a screen. Apple does not want to distract from the screen so they'll design out anything that does. Thankfully the case manufacturers make the iPhone/iPod Touch fun to use. I'd still like to see a flip version of the iPhone.
1. Would be interesting and good if it worked well.
2. Useful feature, however I probably wouldn't use it. Most people wouldn't want to talk out loud in public what they are typing.
3. Given to be good.
4. Only if the phone doesn't get too much larger.
5. So long as battery life isn't affected.
6. Do not care for it, has always made phones seem flimsy to me.
7. See #6 above. Plus I much prefer on-screen entry.
8. Would be good although I probably wouldn't switch away from AT&T.
9. Given. Sounds like they might have 5.1 for next iteration.
10. I really really have wanted this. The ability to have an on-demand video chat with the person that I'm calling (who also has an iphone).
11. Would be nice. Doubt it's happening though.
12. I still am not sold on AMOLED. It sounds really expensive for not giving that much (and having other drawbacks compared to LED LCD)
13. I've been able to do that for a while... even while holding the phone with that hand.
14. Not sure what you mean, but it does sound interesting.
I agree with you on all points.
I would hate to have flimsy battery cover like the other phones. Same goes for physical keyboard...I can type faster on my iphone than on blackberry or mogul anyway.
One thing I would like in addition to some of the features listed above is microSD port. Probably won't happen, though - it would cut into the pricing of the higher capacity models.
That's the problem with the iPhone in that the looks won't ever change. It is basically a screen. Apple does not want to distract from the screen so they'll design out anything that does. Thankfully the case manufacturers make the iPhone/iPod Touch fun to use. I'd still like to see a flip version of the iPhone.
That's not a problem, it's a virtue. No reason to change it until they come up with something that requires the change. There's the same complaint about the G5 Powermac to the new Mac Pro. The case has been just dandy. Why change it? Just to be different?
It amazes me when everyone is so against or don't understand video calling. The fact is that most 3G phones in Europe have it, so its a competitive feature. It was also one of the first selling points of 3G and having used it I can say it works quite well.
Multimedia was always the point of 3G. It was to allow you to now access video on your device (YouTube wasn't big yet, but TV clips etc..) In addition all the phone came out with the front facing camera that allowed video calling. I used it a few times, especially since my carrier in Europe at the time offered a promotion for free video calls in order to push 3G pickup. That was back in 2005 and it worked surprisingly well. So I can't imagine Apple would have that much of a hard time to include iChat and have it work according to the desktop version with the addition of perhaps video calling numbers where carriers supported it (i.e. all of europe).
I have no real opinion on the usefulness of doing video calls from your phone, hell I am so ugly no one will video chat with me unless they have my credit card number first.
I think the reality is that you are forgetting that Apple is a global company but it is still somewhat U.S. centric. In all probability Apple will add a front facing camera but I suspect it will not be until The Deathstar improves their network. Look at how much flak Apple took after allowing something as simple as tethering in all the other markets except for the U.S. And if they did the front facing camera for video chats but limited it to wifi in the us what exactly would be the point? The added cost and complexity to add this to phone while limiting its use to wifi is probably going to limit its appeal (imho). The vast majority of the time that I am on wifi I am at home or work and then I would use my macbook. And if I am in public using free wifi such as in a restaurant or bar I really don't see this as being a activity I want to try. Again this is simply my opinion but maybe others will prove me wrong.
It's a feature without a market. That's the problem with a lot of "features". They're there, but people don't use them. So do they matter? Not really, except to a very few.
It's a good thing that Apple installed cameras in every single iMac and Macbook/Macbook Pro, and put in the capability for video chat right into iChat . . . . . . .
It's a good thing that Apple installed cameras in every single iMac and Macbook/Macbook Pro, and put in the capability for video chat right into iChat . . . . . . .
And just how often are they being used for that purpose? Not too often according to everyone I ask. I doubt the average is far off from that.
It's a fun feature in the beginning. Then after a while, it wears off.
The point is that the feature is there if you need it. If Apple thought it a stupid feature, they wouldn't have made it default.
At least you didn't say that Apple made a "feature" by not including it on the iPhone, which is what so many people on this forum say.
I'm not saying that it shouldn't be there. I'm saying that some features that seem to be a good idea aren't always. Like the video conferencing the two guys earlier mentioned. One said he tried it a few times because of some deal, and the other said that it never caught on. That's what I'm seeing with video on Apple's products too. A few people will love it, a bunch of others will try it for a while, then drop it, and the majority won't even bother. It's too much trouble, requires a fast, reliable connection, and people don't usually want to have others see them on a call.
THe question really is, what do you gain by seeing the person you're talking to most of the time? I don't see any. Maybe someday it will become normal, but I'm willing to bet that will be a while off.
Need my iPhone to do everything. For starters: remote control my tv, open my garage, pay for things like gas food, camera can be used as a scanner, or other stuff- like a digital swiss army knife.
This will not be the actual phone. They're only testing the guts of the hardware. The actual cover will not be shown until the release. Apple typically tests their hardware in nono finalized form so people won't know what it looks like. What better form to test it on then the old one?
I haven't heard anything about cracking issues since the very early days. We have four, and all are fine. Can you site something that shows this is a current, serious issue?.
Well, I haven't read any English forum threads about the issue. There are a couple of multi-page threads concerning both 3G and 3GS on Finland's largest Apple forum, though I wouldn't call it a serious or widespread issue with this little evidence. It just seems to me that it's not totally fixed.
Well, I haven't read any English forum threads about the issue. There are a couple of multi-page threads concerning both 3G and 3GS on Finland's largest Apple forum, though I wouldn't call it a serious or widespread issue with this little evidence. It just seems to me that it's not totally fixed.
But as always, we have to remember that the people who have something to complain about are always the loudest ones.
Considering that over 20 million were sold last year alone, then a few problems here and there are not unexpected. Then the questions come to why it happened. were they dropped, were they sat upon? did they hit something? I don't know anyone who has had a phone with cracks.
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One morning while running errands I left my phone charging in the car. It was left for about three hours in the car and the outside temperatures climbed from around 75 degrees F to about 92. With the combined heat from the ambient air and charging it became so hot I could barely hold it. The end result was that I caused the screen to delaminate in one corner. It looks like rows of stuck pixels but is actually caused from the delimitation. I am just a bit disappointed that Apple went back to that process.
As to folks complaining about the screen, what is so bad about the current ones? Although I must admit, for whatever reason, the one on my wife's 1st generation 4gb (bought on clearance after Apple discontinued it) has the brightest, clearest, and most vibrant color screen of any iphone I have handled including the 3gs. Go figure.
1. Dual microphone to cancel background noise?
2. Voice input for all text entry fields?
3. Higher resolution screen?
4. Larger screen dimensions?
5. Multi-tasking?
6. User-replaceable battery?
7. Physical keyboard in addition to on-screen keyboard?
8. On any carrier other than the POS from AT&T?
9. Higher resolution camera?
10. Front-facing camera for video chat?
11. Customizable home-screen?
12. AMOLED screen (aka, anything other than the POS original screen)?
13. Being able to navigate with zoom in/out with only one hand?
14. Alternate input for navigation such as optical scrolling?
LOL - except for #7 & #10 it sounds like you're describing my new Nexus One.
Well some say there is a 75% chance that AT&T continues to be the sole provider for the iPhone while other rumors indicate that there is an 80% chance that Verizon will get it. So that means there is a 160% chance that something is going to happen that 50% of people are going to be pissed about 100% of the time.
Bravo on the math. Well done!
Multimedia was always the point of 3G. It was to allow you to now access video on your device (YouTube wasn't big yet, but TV clips etc..) In addition all the phone came out with the front facing camera that allowed video calling. I used it a few times, especially since my carrier in Europe at the time offered a promotion for free video calls in order to push 3G pickup. That was back in 2005 and it worked surprisingly well. So I can't imagine Apple would have that much of a hard time to include iChat and have it work according to the desktop version with the addition of perhaps video calling numbers where carriers supported it (i.e. all of europe).
It amazes me when everyone is so against or don't understand video calling. The fact is that most 3G phones in Europe have it, so its a competitive feature. It was also one of the first selling points of 3G and having used it I can say it works quite well.
I agree that at some point I have seen it in a couple of TV ads, but it never took of. I have never heard of anybody doing a video call from a mobile phone.
I agree that at some point I have seen it in a couple of TV ads, but it never took of. I have never heard of anybody doing a video call from a mobile phone.
It's a feature without a market. That's the problem with a lot of "features". They're there, but people don't use them. So do they matter? Not really, except to a very few.
1. Would be interesting and good if it worked well.
2. Useful feature, however I probably wouldn't use it. Most people wouldn't want to talk out loud in public what they are typing.
3. Given to be good.
4. Only if the phone doesn't get too much larger.
5. So long as battery life isn't affected.
6. Do not care for it, has always made phones seem flimsy to me.
7. See #6 above. Plus I much prefer on-screen entry.
8. Would be good although I probably wouldn't switch away from AT&T.
9. Given. Sounds like they might have 5.1 for next iteration.
10. I really really have wanted this. The ability to have an on-demand video chat with the person that I'm calling (who also has an iphone).
11. Would be nice. Doubt it's happening though.
12. I still am not sold on AMOLED. It sounds really expensive for not giving that much (and having other drawbacks compared to LED LCD)
13. I've been able to do that for a while... even while holding the phone with that hand.
14. Not sure what you mean, but it does sound interesting.
I agree with you on all points.
I would hate to have flimsy battery cover like the other phones. Same goes for physical keyboard...I can type faster on my iphone than on blackberry or mogul anyway.
One thing I would like in addition to some of the features listed above is microSD port. Probably won't happen, though - it would cut into the pricing of the higher capacity models.
That's the problem with the iPhone in that the looks won't ever change. It is basically a screen. Apple does not want to distract from the screen so they'll design out anything that does. Thankfully the case manufacturers make the iPhone/iPod Touch fun to use. I'd still like to see a flip version of the iPhone.
That's not a problem, it's a virtue. No reason to change it until they come up with something that requires the change. There's the same complaint about the G5 Powermac to the new Mac Pro. The case has been just dandy. Why change it? Just to be different?
It amazes me when everyone is so against or don't understand video calling. The fact is that most 3G phones in Europe have it, so its a competitive feature. It was also one of the first selling points of 3G and having used it I can say it works quite well.
Multimedia was always the point of 3G. It was to allow you to now access video on your device (YouTube wasn't big yet, but TV clips etc..) In addition all the phone came out with the front facing camera that allowed video calling. I used it a few times, especially since my carrier in Europe at the time offered a promotion for free video calls in order to push 3G pickup. That was back in 2005 and it worked surprisingly well. So I can't imagine Apple would have that much of a hard time to include iChat and have it work according to the desktop version with the addition of perhaps video calling numbers where carriers supported it (i.e. all of europe).
I have no real opinion on the usefulness of doing video calls from your phone, hell I am so ugly no one will video chat with me unless they have my credit card number first.
I think the reality is that you are forgetting that Apple is a global company but it is still somewhat U.S. centric. In all probability Apple will add a front facing camera but I suspect it will not be until The Deathstar improves their network. Look at how much flak Apple took after allowing something as simple as tethering in all the other markets except for the U.S. And if they did the front facing camera for video chats but limited it to wifi in the us what exactly would be the point? The added cost and complexity to add this to phone while limiting its use to wifi is probably going to limit its appeal (imho). The vast majority of the time that I am on wifi I am at home or work and then I would use my macbook. And if I am in public using free wifi such as in a restaurant or bar I really don't see this as being a activity I want to try. Again this is simply my opinion but maybe others will prove me wrong.
It's a feature without a market. That's the problem with a lot of "features". They're there, but people don't use them. So do they matter? Not really, except to a very few.
It's a good thing that Apple installed cameras in every single iMac and Macbook/Macbook Pro, and put in the capability for video chat right into iChat . . . . . . .
It's a good thing that Apple installed cameras in every single iMac and Macbook/Macbook Pro, and put in the capability for video chat right into iChat . . . . . . .
And just how often are they being used for that purpose? Not too often according to everyone I ask. I doubt the average is far off from that.
It's a fun feature in the beginning. Then after a while, it wears off.
And just how often are they being used for that purpose? Not too often according to everyone I ask. I doubt the average is far off from that.
It's a fun feature in the beginning. Then after a while, it wears off.
The point is that the feature is there if you need it. If Apple thought it a stupid feature, they wouldn't have made it default.
At least you didn't say that Apple made a "feature" by not including it on the iPhone, which is what so many people on this forum say.
The point is that the feature is there if you need it. If Apple thought it a stupid feature, they wouldn't have made it default.
At least you didn't say that Apple made a "feature" by not including it on the iPhone, which is what so many people on this forum say.
I'm not saying that it shouldn't be there. I'm saying that some features that seem to be a good idea aren't always. Like the video conferencing the two guys earlier mentioned. One said he tried it a few times because of some deal, and the other said that it never caught on. That's what I'm seeing with video on Apple's products too. A few people will love it, a bunch of others will try it for a while, then drop it, and the majority won't even bother. It's too much trouble, requires a fast, reliable connection, and people don't usually want to have others see them on a call.
THe question really is, what do you gain by seeing the person you're talking to most of the time? I don't see any. Maybe someday it will become normal, but I'm willing to bet that will be a while off.
I haven't heard anything about cracking issues since the very early days. We have four, and all are fine. Can you site something that shows this is a current, serious issue?.
Well, I haven't read any English forum threads about the issue. There are a couple of multi-page threads concerning both 3G and 3GS on Finland's largest Apple forum, though I wouldn't call it a serious or widespread issue with this little evidence. It just seems to me that it's not totally fixed.
The thread, you might get something out of it with a translator: http://hopeinenomena.net/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=127366
But as always, we have to remember that the people who have something to complain about are always the loudest ones.
Well, I haven't read any English forum threads about the issue. There are a couple of multi-page threads concerning both 3G and 3GS on Finland's largest Apple forum, though I wouldn't call it a serious or widespread issue with this little evidence. It just seems to me that it's not totally fixed.
The thread, you might get something out of it with a translator: http://hopeinenomena.net/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=127366
But as always, we have to remember that the people who have something to complain about are always the loudest ones.
Considering that over 20 million were sold last year alone, then a few problems here and there are not unexpected. Then the questions come to why it happened. were they dropped, were they sat upon? did they hit something? I don't know anyone who has had a phone with cracks.