Why you should be proud to send your kids to Berkeley...

in General Discussion edited January 2014
if you beleive that morality is what you make it.

<a href="http://www.knoxstudio.com/shns/story.cfm?pk=EDU-SEXCLASS-02-17-02&cat=LS"; target="_blank">Berkeley sexuality class under fire</a>

If anyone defends this as good education and worth college credit I will likely have a violent bowel upheaval.

Read the article, it will explain everything. :eek:


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    Dude, Im transfering there immediatly. Man, I have a friend there who must be having a blast.
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    brussellbrussell Posts: 9,812member
    I'm sorry, but I just had to laugh at the absurdity of some of these quotes.

    [quote]The University of California at Berkeley has suspended a male sexuality class after the campus newspaper published allegations that students watched their instructor have sex at a strip club and participated in an orgy at an extracurricular party.


    "Those sorts of activities are not part of the approved course curriculum," Felde said.<hr></blockquote>

    [quote]Christy Kovacs, a Berkeley freshman who was enrolled in the male sexuality course last semester for two units, said in an interview that some students in the class were involved in an orgy at a party. The party was held to introduce students from other sections of the course and was not mandatory, Kovacs said.<hr></blockquote>

    Not mandatory? Was it extra credit?

    [quote]Some partygoers also took Polaroid pictures of their genitalia, to show that their bodies were not disgusting...<hr></blockquote>

    I would think that would be exactly the way to make them look disgusting.

    [quote]Kovacs said the class was a positive experience and should not be portrayed in a "scandalous, negative light."<hr></blockquote>
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    paulpaul Posts: 5,278member
    That cop course sounds intresting...
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    cosmonutcosmonut Posts: 4,872member
    [quote]"Caren Kaplan, chairwoman of the Woman's Studies Department and sponsor of the sexuality classes, had reviewed the course description for the male sexuality course but was not provided with a detailed course syllabus..."<hr></blockquote>

    This is what struck me as funniest. It makes it sound as though, IF those activities were planned for in the syllabus, then they're okay. <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />

    Ha ha. The syllabus. (those of you who've been involved in higher academia will appreciate that comment, even in its simplicity)
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    /me waits for Eugene to comment on this
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    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    Hmm, wow, a female sexuality course. If I wasn't going to be graduated this semester...
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    jambojambo Posts: 3,036member
    Yay! I am actually considering moving to the States to study in the next couple of years. Now guess which place just moved to the top of my list?

    J :cool:
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    Never saw anything like that when I was at Berkeley (mid 1970s). I wonder if I'd find those courses if I could find my old catalogs ...

    [ 02-18-2002: Message edited by: Skipjack ]</p>
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    ferroferro Posts: 453member
    Ya know after watching "Girls Gone Wild - Campus Adventures" or something like that and now I hear this...

    I have to go to college there



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    What shocks me are people like NohaJ who count this as reason NOT to go to Berklely.
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    noahjnoahj Posts: 4,503member
    [quote]Originally posted by The Toolboi:

    <strong>What shocks me are people like NohaJ who count this as reason NOT to go to Berklely. </strong><hr></blockquote>

    Once again, thank you for proving my point about the moral drift in America today, and the world in general.
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    [quote]Originally posted by NoahJ:


    Once again, thank you for proving my point about the moral drift in America today, and the world in general. </strong><hr></blockquote>

    Hey NoahJ wanna do a three way for extra credit
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    moogsmoogs Posts: 4,296member
    Like I said some weeks back...

    Berkeley is a living paradox: no community in America has a higher cummulative IQ - and at the same time - the complete lack of common sense that seems to dominate their politics, education and societal values.

    Couldn't pay me to live there.

    [ 02-18-2002: Message edited by: Moogs ? ]</p>
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    I kind of doubt the credability of the article since the only source was the school newspaper. Pretty funny stuff, however I doubt that it is true. Even those wacky Californians have some standards...
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    noahjnoahj Posts: 4,503member
    [quote]Originally posted by Scott H.:


    Hey NoahJ wanna do a three way for extra credit </strong><hr></blockquote>

    You big tease...
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    What do you mean? They quoted several students.
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    Maybe its true... but I find it VERY hard to believe.
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    noahjnoahj Posts: 4,503member
    For those who doubt the authenticity here is another article.

    <a href="http://www.dailycal.org/article.asp?id=7723"; target="_blank">http://www.dailycal.org/article.asp?id=7723</a>;
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    glurxglurx Posts: 1,031member
    Meanwhile, down the road a few miles at Cal State Hayward you can learn about "<a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2002/02/18/MN219777.DTL"; target="_blank">The Sexuality of Terrorism</a>."

    [quote] SCHOOL NEWS: Students at Cal State Hayward are getting quite an eyeful this quarter with an online course titled -- we kid you not -- "The Sexuality of Terrorism."

    The professor is feminist and activist Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz, who makes no bones about her views that:

    A) "Terrorism is on a continuum that starts with battery in the home and up to and including organized militaries that run on taxpayer money."

    And . . .

    B) "The U.S. has participated in some of the most horrible terrorism in history" (everything from Vietnam to the Contra war).

    As for how Sept. 11 and its aftermath fit into all this?

    Dunbar-Ortiz says it's all part of the "organized violence" that's an "extension of the patriarchal family, where violence against women takes place. "

    Whatever the case, the San Francisco professor is about to get her first midterm Wednesday night when she's grilled on Fox News TV by talk show deans Hannity and Colmes.

    And it probably won't be pretty.

  • Reply 20 of 62
    I agree that the events outside of the classroom setting discussed in the article seem, rather, um, inappropriate (to use a euphemism), but the in classroom content actually sounds like a very worthwhile class. For example:

    [quote] Bach said one of his favorite parts of the class is the week when the class discusses violence in relationships because it gives students the chance to talk about times when they were hurt.

    <hr></blockquote> and [quote] In the female sexuality course, students make presentations about negative portrayals of women in the media and discuss stereotypes placed upon different groups of women.

    <hr></blockquote> Sexuality classes are not unique to Cal either. I know UCSB offers one as well, and it's one of the most popular classes on campus.

    Additionally, I have to agree with Toolboi that this one class is not at all a reason to not attend UC Berkeley. Cal is one of the elite universities in the nation (and I'm bitter because they rejected me). NoahJ, morals are all relative. That's why we try to not let the government legislate morality.
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