Do Macs have this problem given the "open OS" you mention? I know that the whole damn thing crashes unexpectedly if you try to view certain websites, but is that a problem in lots of other instances too?
And BTW, crashing of the whole OS hasn't been a noticeable problem for a decade or so with Windows. Whatever its liabilities, stability has been fine.
I do not have crash problems with my netbook, and my wifes Dell XPS windows 7 laptop has never crashed.
Leopard never crashed on me, but Snow Leopard has on a few occasions.
As we've seen with the Internet as a whole, and now the App Store, once you allow a complete free for all you end up with so much utter crap out there that you can't find the good stuff and it ceases to be a useful resource.
Are you really saying that the internet has ceased to be a useful resource? You can't find good Mac programs on the internet? WTF? Really?
Words evolve. Typically, censorship refers to government action. It can, however, refer to a company suppressing speech negative to it's interests. It seems a stretch to call Apple's actions censorship. Apple merely is choosing what applications to allow in it's store.
With all due respect, netbooks were not marketed as Desktop replacement, nor did Dell or any other company say that they were.
Consumers, and probably some Apple types, slammed them for things they were never designed to do. On some of the boards, this being one of them, I have seen people complain that they could not work on one for 8 hours on a netbook, that they can't run photoshop, etc.
That is like complaining that a Lexus is a completely crappy car because it can't race in the Indy 500.
When you put a desktop OS on ANYTHING you are given the impression. When they let you install it (ie: photoshop), they are giving you the impression. You get where this is going?
As to jailbreaking. I have a hunch that Apple tries to prevent it because people are going to try and jailbreak their phone, they will brick their phone and then want a new one under warranty. So, this is a way to stop that.
I take it that you relatively little about jailbreaking an iPhone. Bricking it is not really an option, and therefore, not really a danger. Note that in iTunes, the Restore button is displayed in a very prominent location on the page.
Anyways, anybody who wants to roam wild, they can jail-break the iPhone OS, get into all kinds of sites and download porn, or anything else. Or get another OS device and take their chances. It is a matter of choice.
Do you take chances with your Mac, or is that not an "OS device"? I'm really not sure why having more software choices (wisely exercised) is a bad thing.
When you put a desktop OS on ANYTHING you age giving the impression. When they let you install it (ie: photoshop), they are giving you the impression. You get where this is going?
I guess we will disagree. When I bought the Dell, I knew exactly what I was getting, and what its limitations were. I had no illusions that I was buying a desktop replacement.
Just as if I were to buy a MacBook I would not realistically expect to do professional level video editing, while running a simulation of climate change, while listening to music, etc.
Not typically, that's actually what the word means. Usually when someone argues that words evolve, what they're generally saying is that they don't know what a word means, so they make up whatever they'd like it to mean. Sorry, that's not evolution, that's ignorance.
: to examine in order to suppress or delete anything considered objectionable <censor the news>; also : to suppress or delete as objectionable <censor out indecent passages>
I love the Doc. He's endlessly entertaining with his unintended irony.
actaully your mac is the SAME underlying OS with a different GUI (touch instead of mouse and keyboard). So there would be no taking a chance on a different OS per say as it's really the same. It's like comparing a Venza and a Camry. Same exact drive train, they just look different and have different user interfaces. But underneath the metal the Venza is a Camry are the same thing. Think Win Home vs Windows Pro, but a whole lot more intuitive and less windows.
I guess we will disagree. When I bought the Dell, I knew exactly what I was getting, and what its limitations were. I had no illusions that I was buying a desktop replacement.
Just as if I were to buy a MacBook I would not realistically expect to do professional level video editing, while running a simulation of climate change, while listening to music, etc.
You get the idea of where this is going.
So you think everybody and their grandma thinks just like you? You do know that 89.78% of the population is as stupid as a dog?
No, it's not, but neither is quoting the term [I]censorship[/I ]and then giving a definition to the word censor. Seriously? who did you think you were going to fool with that argument?
cen?sor?ship |ˈsensərˌ sh ip|
noun
? the practice of officially examining books, movies, etc., and suppressing unacceptable parts : details of the visit were subject to military censorship.
Please click on the link I gave to Meriiam Webster's definition of the verb form of the word "Censor". I have no pride of authorship in MW; it was the first one I clicked on.
The definition you give is fine, in that the word can be used to mean exactly that. But the word does not mean ONLY that.
Don't accuse me of lying. I don't. And my whole frigging point was that the word could/should be looked up in the damn dictionary. And I gave a hyperlink to the source. Fer chrissakes, your lame accusation is so pathetic that it is insulting.
how bout using the dictionary that came with your mac:
censor |ˈsensər|
noun
1 an official who examines material that is about to be released, such as books, movies, news, and art, and suppresses any parts that are considered obscene, politically unacceptable, or a threat to security.
• Psychoanalysis an aspect of the superego that is said to prevent certain ideas and memories from emerging into consciousness. [ORIGIN: from a mistranslation of German Zensur ‘censorship,’ coined by Freud.]
2 (in ancient Rome) either of two magistrates who held censuses and supervised public morals.
verb [ trans. ] (often be censored)
examine (a book, movie, etc.) officially and suppress unacceptable parts of it : my mail was being censored.
ORIGIN mid 16th cent. (in sense 2): from Latin, from censere ‘assess.’
USAGE Both censor and censure are both verbs and nouns, but censor means ' scrutinize, revise, or cut unacceptable parts (from a book, movie, etc.)' or 'a person who does this,' while censure means 'criticize harshly' or 'harsh criticism:' : the inmates received their mail only after prison officials had censored all the contents;: some senators considered a resolution of censure to express strong disapproval of the president’s behavior.
the practice of officially examining books, movies, etc., and suppressing unacceptable parts : details of the visit were subject to military censorship.
Please click on the link I gave to Meriiam Webster's definition of the verb form of the word "Censor". I have no pride of authorship in MW; it was the first one I clicked on.
The definition you give is fine, in that the word can be used to mean exactly that. But the word does not mean ONLY that.
Don't accuse me of lying. I don't. And my whole frigging point was that the word could/should be looked up in the damn dictionary. And I gave a hyperlink to the source. Fer chrissakes, your lame accusation is so pathetic that it is insulting.
1) You gave a link to MW after I posted my definition straight from the OAD2.
2) You are lying because you quoted the word censorSHIP but then defined the word censor. The words prick and prickle aren't the same simply because they share many of the same letters in the same order. So if I say you are acting like a prickle, it doesn't exactly get my point across.
3) Main Entry: cen·sor·ship
Pronunciation: \\ˈsen(t)-sər-ˌship\\
Function: noun
Date: circa 1591
1 a : the institution, system, or practice of censoring b : the actions or practices of censors; especially : censorial control exercised repressively
2 : the office, power, or term of a Roman censor
3 : exclusion from consciousness by the psychic censor
So you buy an Apple product where you can only install software that Apple approves and can only get it from the App Store owned by Apple... yet you are surprised by Apple's censorship?
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Do Macs have this problem given the "open OS" you mention? I know that the whole damn thing crashes unexpectedly if you try to view certain websites, but is that a problem in lots of other instances too?
And BTW, crashing of the whole OS hasn't been a noticeable problem for a decade or so with Windows. Whatever its liabilities, stability has been fine.
I do not have crash problems with my netbook, and my wifes Dell XPS windows 7 laptop has never crashed.
Leopard never crashed on me, but Snow Leopard has on a few occasions.
As we've seen with the Internet as a whole, and now the App Store, once you allow a complete free for all you end up with so much utter crap out there that you can't find the good stuff and it ceases to be a useful resource.
Are you really saying that the internet has ceased to be a useful resource? You can't find good Mac programs on the internet? WTF? Really?
Words evolve. Typically, censorship refers to government action. It can, however, refer to a company suppressing speech negative to it's interests. It seems a stretch to call Apple's actions censorship. Apple merely is choosing what applications to allow in it's store.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/censor
With all due respect, netbooks were not marketed as Desktop replacement, nor did Dell or any other company say that they were.
Consumers, and probably some Apple types, slammed them for things they were never designed to do. On some of the boards, this being one of them, I have seen people complain that they could not work on one for 8 hours on a netbook, that they can't run photoshop, etc.
That is like complaining that a Lexus is a completely crappy car because it can't race in the Indy 500.
When you put a desktop OS on ANYTHING you are given the impression. When they let you install it (ie: photoshop), they are giving you the impression. You get where this is going?
As to jailbreaking. I have a hunch that Apple tries to prevent it because people are going to try and jailbreak their phone, they will brick their phone and then want a new one under warranty. So, this is a way to stop that.
I take it that you relatively little about jailbreaking an iPhone. Bricking it is not really an option, and therefore, not really a danger. Note that in iTunes, the Restore button is displayed in a very prominent location on the page.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-10...=2547-1_3-0-20
What a completely BS statement regarding "usability".
Owning your own home does not allow you to ... Or putting a thousand plastic flamingoes on your front lawn.
Really? Where do you live? Around here, you can put as many plastic flamingos on your lawn as you desire.
But I don't think I've ever seen even one.
Anyways, anybody who wants to roam wild, they can jail-break the iPhone OS, get into all kinds of sites and download porn, or anything else. Or get another OS device and take their chances. It is a matter of choice.
Do you take chances with your Mac, or is that not an "OS device"? I'm really not sure why having more software choices (wisely exercised) is a bad thing.
When you put a desktop OS on ANYTHING you age giving the impression. When they let you install it (ie: photoshop), they are giving you the impression. You get where this is going?
I guess we will disagree. When I bought the Dell, I knew exactly what I was getting, and what its limitations were. I had no illusions that I was buying a desktop replacement.
Just as if I were to buy a MacBook I would not realistically expect to do professional level video editing, while running a simulation of climate change, while listening to music, etc.
You get the idea of where this is going.
Not typically, that's actually what the word means. Usually when someone argues that words evolve, what they're generally saying is that they don't know what a word means, so they make up whatever they'd like it to mean. Sorry, that's not evolution, that's ignorance.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/censor
Main Entry: censor
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): cen·sored; cen·sor·ing \\ˈsen(t)-sə-riŋ, ˈsen(t)s-riŋ\\
Date: 1882
: to examine in order to suppress or delete anything considered objectionable <censor the news>; also : to suppress or delete as objectionable <censor out indecent passages>
I love the Doc. He's endlessly entertaining with his unintended irony.
I guess we will disagree. When I bought the Dell, I knew exactly what I was getting, and what its limitations were. I had no illusions that I was buying a desktop replacement.
Just as if I were to buy a MacBook I would not realistically expect to do professional level video editing, while running a simulation of climate change, while listening to music, etc.
You get the idea of where this is going.
So you think everybody and their grandma thinks just like you? You do know that 89.78% of the population is as stupid as a dog?
No, it's not, but neither is quoting the term [I]censorship[/I ]and then giving a definition to the word censor. Seriously? who did you think you were going to fool with that argument?
Please click on the link I gave to Meriiam Webster's definition of the verb form of the word "Censor". I have no pride of authorship in MW; it was the first one I clicked on.
The definition you give is fine, in that the word can be used to mean exactly that. But the word does not mean ONLY that.
Don't accuse me of lying. I don't. And my whole frigging point was that the word could/should be looked up in the damn dictionary. And I gave a hyperlink to the source. Fer chrissakes, your lame accusation is so pathetic that it is insulting.
censor |ˈsensər|
noun
1 an official who examines material that is about to be released, such as books, movies, news, and art, and suppresses any parts that are considered obscene, politically unacceptable, or a threat to security.
• Psychoanalysis an aspect of the superego that is said to prevent certain ideas and memories from emerging into consciousness. [ORIGIN: from a mistranslation of German Zensur ‘censorship,’ coined by Freud.]
2 (in ancient Rome) either of two magistrates who held censuses and supervised public morals.
verb [ trans. ] (often be censored)
examine (a book, movie, etc.) officially and suppress unacceptable parts of it : my mail was being censored.
DERIVATIVES
censorial |senˈsôrēəl| |sɛnˈsɔriəl| |-ˈsɔːrɪəl| adjective
ORIGIN mid 16th cent. (in sense 2): from Latin, from censere ‘assess.’
USAGE Both censor and censure are both verbs and nouns, but censor means ' scrutinize, revise, or cut unacceptable parts (from a book, movie, etc.)' or 'a person who does this,' while censure means 'criticize harshly' or 'harsh criticism:' : the inmates received their mail only after prison officials had censored all the contents;: some senators considered a resolution of censure to express strong disapproval of the president’s behavior.
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censorship |ˈsensərˌ sh ip|
noun
the practice of officially examining books, movies, etc., and suppressing unacceptable parts : details of the visit were subject to military censorship.
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ _____________________________________________
I'd have to go with number Uno of the Censor definition. As it pertains to security and political correctness.
Please click on the link I gave to Meriiam Webster's definition of the verb form of the word "Censor". I have no pride of authorship in MW; it was the first one I clicked on.
The definition you give is fine, in that the word can be used to mean exactly that. But the word does not mean ONLY that.
Don't accuse me of lying. I don't. And my whole frigging point was that the word could/should be looked up in the damn dictionary. And I gave a hyperlink to the source. Fer chrissakes, your lame accusation is so pathetic that it is insulting.
1) You gave a link to MW after I posted my definition straight from the OAD2.
2) You are lying because you quoted the word censorSHIP but then defined the word censor. The words prick and prickle aren't the same simply because they share many of the same letters in the same order. So if I say you are acting like a prickle, it doesn't exactly get my point across.
3) Main Entry: cen·sor·ship
Pronunciation: \\ˈsen(t)-sər-ˌship\\
Function: noun
Date: circa 1591
1 a : the institution, system, or practice of censoring b : the actions or practices of censors; especially : censorial control exercised repressively
2 : the office, power, or term of a Roman censor
3 : exclusion from consciousness by the psychic censor
So you think everybody and their grandma thinks just like you? You do know that 89.78% of the population is as stupid as a dog?
I am a professor, so I know for a fact the percentage is higher than that.
I am a professor, so I know for a fact the percentage is higher than that.
I like to give some people here credit.
As in government
Yes, that is one perfectly OK way to use the word. But it is not the only OK way to use the word.
Many dictionaries have many perfectly good definitions, and no one is exclusively correct.
I want to make my own decisions - not have Apple do it for me.
Don't let the screen door slam on your way out, please.
Priceless.