I hope the next gen iPhone gets this as well.. It really is a pain to use the iPhone if you're reading in bed on your side, or in the car, or running.. It's always flipping when I don't want it to.
It'd be nicer if there were a push button that brought up a foldover mini settings screen that is usable from within apps, including functions like mute, aspect lock, connectivity (wi-fi, bluetooth and aeroplane mode), and maybe a couple others.
Very useful feature. Mute is really only useful for phones since they have "vibrate" feature. On the iPad you can just turn the volume all the way down.
It'd be nicer if there were a push button that brought up a foldover mini settings screen that is usable from within apps, including functions like mute, aspect lock, connectivity (wi-fi, bluetooth and aeroplane mode), and maybe a couple others.
So now I guess there is no way turn off sounds without lowering the volume? aka making the alarm clock useless...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the alarms work on the iPod and iPhone even if the volume is turned down completely - could swear it does mine.
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Seems like a good thing to have - the lack of a rotation override is an infuriating omission on the iPhone.
not to discount your emotions, but "infuriating" seems a bit dramatic and an exageration. Annoying or frustrating, but to infuriate is to make extremely angry to the level of near or at violence. (sorry, just me nit-picking)
... What if are reading on your bed and want to turn on your side, what if you want to see a photo upside-down, etc etc.
Yes. This is the main reason.
The iPad is a couch device. It's not a coincidence that Steve Jobs demoed it while sitting on a couch. It's also aimed at low end users and lazier people to a certain extent. A lot of people will want to lay on the couch and read a magazine or a book and if they didn't have this switch, then the whole first week after the release would be filled with people commenting on how stupid Apple was for not having it.
It's a hardware switch because most people, especially those average non-geeky low end users that it's aimed at, never discover the settings application of want to dive in there and change anything. It's unreasonable to expect people to go into settings and change this back and forth all the time.
Think of all the so-called techies that post on this forum in the recent discussions about Bing, who were completely unaware that they could already change the default search provider, and that's right at the top of the first page of settings for Safari. Then think of your Mum using this thing and being annoyed at the rotation when she lies down on the couch or tries to read in bed.
I hope the next gen iPhone gets this as well.. It really is a pain to use the iPhone if you're reading in bed on your side, or in the car, or running.. It's always flipping when I don't want it to.
It's already here, there's a rotation lock as part of SBSettings. I've been using it to great effect for a long time now. I just wish you could specify on an app by app basis (EI mail should never rotate). Reading in bed on your side is a perfect example of why a rotation lock is very needed.
I don't own an iphone, so I can't say this with 100% certainty, but I would think you can set up custom profiles that assign any sound (or mute) to each and every notification type?
I think the rotation lock is a very useful feature (much more useful than mute).
All phones and PDAs I use are always set to either off (at night) or vibrate (during the day). I find it an annoying and unnecessary fact of life that there are still people who have audible rings going off all over the place.
I just ordered an iPad this morning, now the wait begins ...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the alarms work on the iPod and iPhone even if the volume is turned down completely - could swear it does mine.
No, they do not. If your phone on silent, they come through anyway. If your "volume" is at zero, then no they don't
But, the point is moot because there is no Clock app, which I didn't realize before.
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A lot of people responding don't seem to get it at all. No, there is no Audio difference between the iPhone and iPad that justifies this decision. What about the iPod touch? Does it have a silent ringer switch, even though it has 3 less sounds than the iPhone? (sms, ringtone, voicemail) Yep.
I'm not saying this isn't a great new feature! Of course it is! We need it on the the iPhone as well.
But to replace the exterior mute button? Stupidity.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the alarms work on the iPod and iPhone even if the volume is turned down completely - could swear it does mine.
not to discount your emotions, but "infuriating" seems a bit dramatic and an exageration. Annoying or frustrating, but to infuriate is to make extremely angry to the level of near or at violence. (sorry, just me nit-picking)
It does border on infuriating at times, especially when reading news whole lying down. Sometimes it even gets a bit of a spin going. Worse is when it then won't go back and gets stuck.
I seriously hope this becomes an option for the iPhone as well.
It's already here, there's a rotation lock as part of SBSettings. I've been using it to great effect for a long time now. I just wish you could specify on an app by app basis (EI mail should never rotate). Reading in bed on your side is a perfect example of why a rotation lock is very needed.
No, they do not. If your phone on silent, they come through anyway. If your "volume" is at zero, then no they don't
But, the point is moot because there is no Clock app, which I didn't realize before.
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A lot of people responding don't seem to get it at all. No, there is no Audio difference between the iPhone and iPad that justifies this decision. What about the iPod touch? Does it have a silent ringer switch, even though it has 3 less sounds than the iPhone? (sms, ringtone, voicemail) Yep.
I'm not saying this isn't a great new feature! Of course it is! We need it on the the iPhone as well.
But to replace the exterior mute button? Stupidity.
I think it's a good place for it. It would be nice if apps would implement this themselves. Some do. Stanza should, but they don't as far as I can tell.
Very useful feature. Mute is really only useful for phones since they have "vibrate" feature. On the iPad you can just turn the volume all the way down.
This change so late in game makes me think reading in bed on your side wasn't even considered until someone at Apple actually tried this and realized it was an issue.
No, they do not. If your phone on silent, they come through anyway. If your "volume" is at zero, then no they don't
But, the point is moot because there is no Clock app, which I didn't realize before.
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A lot of people responding don't seem to get it at all. No, there is no Audio difference between the iPhone and iPad that justifies this decision. What about the iPod touch? Does it have a silent ringer switch, even though it has 3 less sounds than the iPhone? (sms, ringtone, voicemail) Yep.
I'm not saying this isn't a great new feature! Of course it is! We need it on the the iPhone as well.
But to replace the exterior mute button? Stupidity.
The iPod touch has it because the iPhone has it, not because the iPod touch needs it. A mute button is nice to have, but it is far from a requirement, and if I had to choose one on the iPad, I would take the screen orientation lock.
I think it's a good place for it. It would be nice if apps would implement this themselves. Some do. Stanza should, but they don't as far as I can tell.
Yeah I suppose I'll get over it in an hour or so. It just might be little confusing at first. First they move the controls to the opposite side from the iPhone, then they change one of the buttons functions.
Maybe the'll change the volume up/down to turning 3G on/off, but only on those models, on the WiFI only it will be for giving positive or negative ratings to App store apps
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So now I guess there is no way turn off sounds without lowering the volume? aka making the alarm clock useless
Since there is no clock app, this won't matter.
Since there is no clock app, this won't matter.
I am sure this one clock app in the 100,000+ that work with the iPad.
It'd be nicer if there were a push button that brought up a foldover mini settings screen that is usable from within apps, including functions like mute, aspect lock, connectivity (wi-fi, bluetooth and aeroplane mode), and maybe a couple others.
That would be great.
So now I guess there is no way turn off sounds without lowering the volume? aka making the alarm clock useless...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the alarms work on the iPod and iPhone even if the volume is turned down completely - could swear it does mine.
Seems like a good thing to have - the lack of a rotation override is an infuriating omission on the iPhone.
not to discount your emotions, but "infuriating" seems a bit dramatic and an exageration. Annoying or frustrating, but to infuriate is to make extremely angry to the level of near or at violence. (sorry, just me nit-picking)
... What if are reading on your bed and want to turn on your side, what if you want to see a photo upside-down, etc etc.
Yes. This is the main reason.
The iPad is a couch device. It's not a coincidence that Steve Jobs demoed it while sitting on a couch. It's also aimed at low end users and lazier people to a certain extent. A lot of people will want to lay on the couch and read a magazine or a book and if they didn't have this switch, then the whole first week after the release would be filled with people commenting on how stupid Apple was for not having it.
It's a hardware switch because most people, especially those average non-geeky low end users that it's aimed at, never discover the settings application of want to dive in there and change anything. It's unreasonable to expect people to go into settings and change this back and forth all the time.
Think of all the so-called techies that post on this forum in the recent discussions about Bing, who were completely unaware that they could already change the default search provider, and that's right at the top of the first page of settings for Safari. Then think of your Mum using this thing and being annoyed at the rotation when she lies down on the couch or tries to read in bed.
I hope the next gen iPhone gets this as well.. It really is a pain to use the iPhone if you're reading in bed on your side, or in the car, or running.. It's always flipping when I don't want it to.
It's already here, there's a rotation lock as part of SBSettings. I've been using it to great effect for a long time now. I just wish you could specify on an app by app basis (EI mail should never rotate). Reading in bed on your side is a perfect example of why a rotation lock is very needed.
Sheldon
I think the rotation lock is a very useful feature (much more useful than mute).
All phones and PDAs I use are always set to either off (at night) or vibrate (during the day). I find it an annoying and unnecessary fact of life that there are still people who have audible rings going off all over the place.
I just ordered an iPad this morning, now the wait begins ...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the alarms work on the iPod and iPhone even if the volume is turned down completely - could swear it does mine.
No, they do not. If your phone on silent, they come through anyway. If your "volume" is at zero, then no they don't
But, the point is moot because there is no Clock app, which I didn't realize before.
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A lot of people responding don't seem to get it at all. No, there is no Audio difference between the iPhone and iPad that justifies this decision. What about the iPod touch? Does it have a silent ringer switch, even though it has 3 less sounds than the iPhone? (sms, ringtone, voicemail) Yep.
I'm not saying this isn't a great new feature! Of course it is! We need it on the the iPhone as well.
But to replace the exterior mute button? Stupidity.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the alarms work on the iPod and iPhone even if the volume is turned down completely - could swear it does mine.
not to discount your emotions, but "infuriating" seems a bit dramatic and an exageration. Annoying or frustrating, but to infuriate is to make extremely angry to the level of near or at violence. (sorry, just me nit-picking)
It does border on infuriating at times, especially when reading news whole lying down. Sometimes it even gets a bit of a spin going. Worse is when it then won't go back and gets stuck.
I seriously hope this becomes an option for the iPhone as well.
It's already here, there's a rotation lock as part of SBSettings. I've been using it to great effect for a long time now. I just wish you could specify on an app by app basis (EI mail should never rotate). Reading in bed on your side is a perfect example of why a rotation lock is very needed.
Sheldon
Really?!?! Never knew this, finding it now.......
I like it. Kinda thin headline news isn't it though...?
It is thin, but it shows that Apple has continued to make improvements since the introduction.
No, they do not. If your phone on silent, they come through anyway. If your "volume" is at zero, then no they don't
But, the point is moot because there is no Clock app, which I didn't realize before.
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A lot of people responding don't seem to get it at all. No, there is no Audio difference between the iPhone and iPad that justifies this decision. What about the iPod touch? Does it have a silent ringer switch, even though it has 3 less sounds than the iPhone? (sms, ringtone, voicemail) Yep.
I'm not saying this isn't a great new feature! Of course it is! We need it on the the iPhone as well.
But to replace the exterior mute button? Stupidity.
I think it's a good place for it. It would be nice if apps would implement this themselves. Some do. Stanza should, but they don't as far as I can tell.
OMG this is GREAT! Before this, I hated the iPad in every way imaginable... now I need THREE!
Just wanted to get both arguments out of the way...
Very useful feature. Mute is really only useful for phones since they have "vibrate" feature. On the iPad you can just turn the volume all the way down.
This change so late in game makes me think reading in bed on your side wasn't even considered until someone at Apple actually tried this and realized it was an issue.
No, they do not. If your phone on silent, they come through anyway. If your "volume" is at zero, then no they don't
But, the point is moot because there is no Clock app, which I didn't realize before.
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A lot of people responding don't seem to get it at all. No, there is no Audio difference between the iPhone and iPad that justifies this decision. What about the iPod touch? Does it have a silent ringer switch, even though it has 3 less sounds than the iPhone? (sms, ringtone, voicemail) Yep.
I'm not saying this isn't a great new feature! Of course it is! We need it on the the iPhone as well.
But to replace the exterior mute button? Stupidity.
The iPod touch has it because the iPhone has it, not because the iPod touch needs it. A mute button is nice to have, but it is far from a requirement, and if I had to choose one on the iPad, I would take the screen orientation lock.
OMG why did they do this? I loved the iPad and was gonna get THREE but this is a total deal breaker!
OMG this is GREAT! Before this, I hated the iPad in every way imaginable... now I need THREE!
Just wanted to get both arguments out of the way...
But: I'm only allowed to pre-order TWO, rats. Now I won't even get ONE - See, I showed YOU, Apple
I think it's a good place for it. It would be nice if apps would implement this themselves. Some do. Stanza should, but they don't as far as I can tell.
Yeah I suppose I'll get over it in an hour or so. It just might be little confusing at first. First they move the controls to the opposite side from the iPhone, then they change one of the buttons functions.
Maybe the'll change the volume up/down to turning 3G on/off, but only on those models, on the WiFI only it will be for giving positive or negative ratings to App store apps