When Steve Jobs said they were about 5 years ahead of the competition - I'd say he was just about right. By the time the new Windows phone ships, Apple will be on to version 4. If you look at the current Windows Mobile offering today - you can surely see why many of their employees are using the iPhone. Maybe that will change with Windows Phone 7.
Maybe Microsoft will merge with Massive Dynamic in order to become a stronger competitor with Apple.
Just goes to show you a number of people who work at MS are only there because it is a job and it pays the bills.
I personally do not understand people who would work for a company and did not believe in what they were doing. Either you like their product or you do not if you do not like it why work for them.
No wonder why there are so many people dissatisfied with their work and do not like their jobs.
I would image at Apple that most everyone if not everyone who works there use nothing but Apple products and not the competitors products. I know when I was there I never heard of anyone who used anything but Apple products. There was a running joke at the time if it was not for the employees and their families Apple would have gone out of business.
I have spoken with our TAM from Microsoft. Things have changed since 2008. They have gone to requiring the employees to use BING over Google and to report the issues they are having so that it can be fixed. He actually told me with a straight face that Bing had finally surpassed Google over a year ago. And he followed it up by immediately saying he was not a Microsoft Schill...
The iPhone issue is also true, it was very heavily frowned upon at the time. This is totally believable.
Just goes to show you a number of people who work at MS are only there because it is a job and it pays the bills.
I personally do not understand people who would work for a company and did not believe in what they were doing. Either you like their product or you do not if you do not like it why work for them.
No wonder why there are so many people dissatisfied with their work and do not like their jobs.
I would image at Apple that most everyone if not everyone who works there use nothing but Apple products and not the competitors products. I know when I was there I never heard of anyone who used anything but Apple products. There was a running joke at the time if it was not for the employees and their families Apple would have gone out of business.
Not everybody that works at Apple likes it there.
Employees and temps working untold hours on the development of a new product and watching it become successful are lucky to get a 4% raise with no bonus. And the temps get nothing.
I forgot, temps can buy Apple products at a 10% discount.
I personally do not understand people who would work for a company and did not believe in what they were doing. Either you like their product or you do not if you do not like it why work for them.
So if you work for a TV network, you should only watch programmes on that network, and miss great programmes on other networks?
If you work for an airline, do you plan your trips solely around where your airline goes?
If you work for a sports car company who doesn't make family cars, do you squeeze your family into a sports car?
If your employer offers products and services that meet your needs, then yes, go for it, but why use them if they don't suit your needs.
I personally do not understand people who would work for a company and did not believe in what they were doing. Either you like their product or you do not if you do not like it why work for them.
Microsoft sells software for the Mac, you know. And does a lot of other stuff. Not everyone who works there works on Windows.
Quote:
I would image at Apple that most everyone if not everyone who works there use nothing but Apple products and not the competitors products. I know when I was there I never heard of anyone who used anything but Apple products. There was a running joke at the time if it was not for the employees and their families Apple would have gone out of business.
The Apple employees I know love their jobs and buy Apple products by the ton, but they also use Microsoft Pro trackballs and MS ergo keyboards and when they go home, they play games on XBoxes or on gaming computers that most assuredly aren't Macs.
So I'm not surprised at all that Microsoft employees use iPhones. In fact, 10% sounds pretty low for such a technophile crowd.
Just goes to show you a number of people who work at MS are only there because it is a job and it pays the bills.
I personally do not understand people who would work for a company and did not believe in what they were doing. Either you like their product or you do not if you do not like it why work for them.
No wonder why there are so many people dissatisfied with their work and do not like their jobs.
I think you're probably lucky, that is, if you really are doing work you like for a company you like, I don't think very many people manage to achieve that. It's life.
Having an interest in something gets old when you have to do 40, 50, 60 hour work weeks doing it, and having to deal with typical work interpersonal issues, it takes a toll. I think that's why Google has their 80/20 program, where 80% of the work is stuff that needs to be done, and 20% is some other project that's diversionary. From the people that talk about it, it seems like it tends to prevent burnout.
This number is even higher among people in the Windows Phone team. And here's why: there was a tradition in the team to dogfood its own product on dogfood phones. Employees were given dogfood phones for free and the wireless plans were free as well (including data and everything). When the team was struggling to produce a decent product, there was also a crisis with the supply of the dogfood phones. Whoever was responsible for dogfood phones made one bad deal with manufacturers after another. Each time dogfood phones were so bad, they couldn't run the software.
Obviously, no meaningful dogfooding was possible. The people responsible for making deals with manufacturers screwed up badly. But instead of firing those people, the upper management decided to stop dogfooding altogether (brilliant, huh?). So they terminated all free wireless plans, but offered to reimburse the data part of the employees' own wireless plans. And immediately half of the Windows Phone team bought iPhones! When forced to make a decision with their own money, employees made the best choice available at that time.
Comments
When Steve Jobs said they were about 5 years ahead of the competition - I'd say he was just about right. By the time the new Windows phone ships, Apple will be on to version 4. If you look at the current Windows Mobile offering today - you can surely see why many of their employees are using the iPhone. Maybe that will change with Windows Phone 7.
Maybe Microsoft will merge with Massive Dynamic in order to become a stronger competitor with Apple.
I personally do not understand people who would work for a company and did not believe in what they were doing. Either you like their product or you do not if you do not like it why work for them.
No wonder why there are so many people dissatisfied with their work and do not like their jobs.
I would image at Apple that most everyone if not everyone who works there use nothing but Apple products and not the competitors products. I know when I was there I never heard of anyone who used anything but Apple products. There was a running joke at the time if it was not for the employees and their families Apple would have gone out of business.
The iPhone issue is also true, it was very heavily frowned upon at the time. This is totally believable.
Just goes to show you a number of people who work at MS are only there because it is a job and it pays the bills.
I personally do not understand people who would work for a company and did not believe in what they were doing. Either you like their product or you do not if you do not like it why work for them.
No wonder why there are so many people dissatisfied with their work and do not like their jobs.
I would image at Apple that most everyone if not everyone who works there use nothing but Apple products and not the competitors products. I know when I was there I never heard of anyone who used anything but Apple products. There was a running joke at the time if it was not for the employees and their families Apple would have gone out of business.
Not everybody that works at Apple likes it there.
Employees and temps working untold hours on the development of a new product and watching it become successful are lucky to get a 4% raise with no bonus. And the temps get nothing.
I forgot, temps can buy Apple products at a 10% discount.
I personally do not understand people who would work for a company and did not believe in what they were doing. Either you like their product or you do not if you do not like it why work for them.
So if you work for a TV network, you should only watch programmes on that network, and miss great programmes on other networks?
If you work for an airline, do you plan your trips solely around where your airline goes?
If you work for a sports car company who doesn't make family cars, do you squeeze your family into a sports car?
If your employer offers products and services that meet your needs, then yes, go for it, but why use them if they don't suit your needs.
Phil
I personally do not understand people who would work for a company and did not believe in what they were doing. Either you like their product or you do not if you do not like it why work for them.
Microsoft sells software for the Mac, you know. And does a lot of other stuff. Not everyone who works there works on Windows.
I would image at Apple that most everyone if not everyone who works there use nothing but Apple products and not the competitors products. I know when I was there I never heard of anyone who used anything but Apple products. There was a running joke at the time if it was not for the employees and their families Apple would have gone out of business.
The Apple employees I know love their jobs and buy Apple products by the ton, but they also use Microsoft Pro trackballs and MS ergo keyboards and when they go home, they play games on XBoxes or on gaming computers that most assuredly aren't Macs.
So I'm not surprised at all that Microsoft employees use iPhones. In fact, 10% sounds pretty low for such a technophile crowd.
Just goes to show you a number of people who work at MS are only there because it is a job and it pays the bills.
I personally do not understand people who would work for a company and did not believe in what they were doing. Either you like their product or you do not if you do not like it why work for them.
No wonder why there are so many people dissatisfied with their work and do not like their jobs.
I think you're probably lucky, that is, if you really are doing work you like for a company you like, I don't think very many people manage to achieve that. It's life.
Having an interest in something gets old when you have to do 40, 50, 60 hour work weeks doing it, and having to deal with typical work interpersonal issues, it takes a toll. I think that's why Google has their 80/20 program, where 80% of the work is stuff that needs to be done, and 20% is some other project that's diversionary. From the people that talk about it, it seems like it tends to prevent burnout.
Obviously, no meaningful dogfooding was possible. The people responsible for making deals with manufacturers screwed up badly. But instead of firing those people, the upper management decided to stop dogfooding altogether (brilliant, huh?). So they terminated all free wireless plans, but offered to reimburse the data part of the employees' own wireless plans. And immediately half of the Windows Phone team bought iPhones! When forced to make a decision with their own money, employees made the best choice available at that time.
So there you go.