A native Microsoft Office (and specially PowerPoint) for the iPad is a must. As is a USB port for the remote control and to share files. Hopefully in the near future. Meanwhile waiting...
You don't need USB for a remote control. Bluetooth or WiFi would work fine without a dongle. Personally I want an iPhone app to control my iPad. If you really want a dongle, I'm sure someone will make one that uses a dock connector. From what I understand it is easy to share files with computers on the iPad, just plug it in an any app that you've enabled sharing on the iPad will show up as its own drive/folder that you can drag and drop files into and out of. Of course there is also the camera connection kit that give you an SD card reader and a usb port, but the full capabilities are an unknown right now.
Keynote would probably display most powerpoints just fine, but hopefully Microsoft does make some Office Apps.
Before focusing on "must haves" it is good to familiarize yourself with the actual device. Of course we will know more when it launches and we can hold one, but a little advance research doesn't hurt. It already has a lot of the capabilities you want it to have, just not presented in the same way you are accustomed to.
No one mentioned that the iWork apps only cost $10 each? I have a really hard time imagining that Microsoft would be willing to rewrite their entire Office suite for just $10 for each app. Apple could do it because they didn't rewrite it all; they just simply changed how the user interacted with the application.
So much for the "but it's not a 'serious' machine" bleating.
No, it won't run FCP (yet), but you can sure as hell whip up a nice Keynote presentation, etc.
Just one problem. This survey is in direct contradiction to the survey posted on this site yesterday.
Yesterday it was web browsing, gaming and updating your address book. This is not a serious machine because it doesn't have the power to process serious applications or work.
Most enterprise people will not take to a Tablet or else the market would have been flooded with them already. Tablets have been around for quite some time, it's not a new trend what so ever.
Having had a lot of them they sucked in different ways so it's not that enterprise people don't WANT a tablet...just that they want one that doesn't SUCK. Apple products typically doesn't suck.
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A real keyboard and the screen being held up on it's own is essential to enterprises needs.
Gee...then it's a good thing there's a keyboard dock...
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They will use a netbook instead if price is problem or they don't need a lot of performance.
Or an iPad if they want something easy to use and more portable than most netbooks.
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For the iPad the limitations are these:
64GB to limiting for storage.
No Ethernet port for those places where security is a issue.
Can't run software outside of the App Store.
No Flash
64GB isn't too bad even given rather large keynote files. Larger would be better but I think most folks are used to culling what they keep on mobile devices.
Ethernet can likely be run through the dock connector if desired. If there is a market, someone will make a dongle or a dock. But lets be honest, wired ethernet on a device like this makes it simply annoying to use unless docked. Using a secure VPN tunnel is probably secure enough for most folks.
You can run any enterprise software you develop with an enterprise dev account.
Flash...meh.
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Apple can do what they want because they are a consumer products company, enterprise has more open and other needs that is better served by the Windows PC and RIMs of the world.
Except that there is a gap between a smartphone and a laptop in the enterprise world for something useful for meetings and travel. The iPad is ideal given that the keyboard dock allows for writing fairly lengthy documents.
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The iPad being adopted wide scale by enterprise is a pipe dream, schools yes, enterprise no.
Just one problem. This survey is in direct contradiction to the survey posted on this site yesterday.
Yesterday it was web browsing, gaming and updating your address book. This is not a serious machine because it doesn't have the power to process serious applications or work.
Nice FUD.
Wierd, I thought you were already on my ignore list. Easy enough to fix.
Just one problem. This survey is in direct contradiction to the survey posted on this site yesterday.
Yesterday it was web browsing, gaming and updating your address book. This is not a serious machine because it doesn't have the power to process serious applications or work.
He always tries to twists everything around to prove it's a game changer. Kind of delusional actually.
I'd say it'll be there. iWork for Mac and iWork.com both have export options for Powerpoint and Excel formats.
Yes, I use iWork on my Mac, so I'm aware of that, but I posted that from Apple's site because it thought it was a bit odd and maybe telling that they specifically mention being able to import from MS products, but when exporting or sharing options, they do not mention exporting to MS products (except for Pages). Maybe they are still working on it for the release, but for now it sounds like it is NOT possible.
It would be a lot easier for folks if you didn't keep signing up with different variations of the same name when you get banned.
Why do you need a list to ignore in the first place ? Haven't you ever been taught how to skim read? I do it all the time- especially the gang of four's posts. No need to put them on a list- that's so jouvenille.
What company in their right mind is going to lose business because they insist on not being compatible with everyone else?
Well, it has worked for Microsoft so far.
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No Ethernet port for those places where security is a issue.
Say WHAT? I've worked for Banks and Hospitals [two very security conscious industries] and this is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
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Can't run software outside of the App Store.
Not true - it just cost more to get the dev kit.
As for the rest of his nonsense, not even worth quoting.
Apples failure to break into the 'enterprise' is mostly self inflicted. It has nothing to do with the quality of hardware or software. It has to do with choices Apple has made not to compete in that comodity market.
As to the topic at hand - the iPad - you fail to see that it is not a notebook/netbook replacment or competitor. You equate previous failed tablet products by PC vendors as a predictor that the iPad will fail.
What you fail to understand is - the iPad is not computer based on your definition of computer.
Is this something my finance person is going to hammer out spreadsheets on? No.
Is this something my IT worker is going to manage database servers with on a daily basis? No.
Is this something my managers are going to use to check calendars between meetings? Send quick emails? Review email attachements? Possibly use web portal based intranet apps? YES.
Our managers already do this. On $2000+ panasonic toughbooks. with 2-3 hr battery life. that weigh in at a nice 4 pounds.
the iPad is not a laptop, netbook, or desktop replacement. And if you think that those are the only computer 'niches' in the 'enterprise', you are mistaken.
It would be a lot easier for folks if you didn't keep signing up with different variations of the same name when you get banned.
Even more helpful when folks stop replying to them.
Not dinging you, just commenting again that the ignore feature isn't all that useful at the moment because these folks are so annoying that it's hard not to call them idiots when they aren't on ignore.
It's just better to avoid that temptation...but then you see what they wrote quoted by someone and you're like "Geez, what a moron...I wish ignore worked better...".
Even more helpful when folks stop replying to them.
Not dinging you, just commenting again that the ignore feature isn't all that useful at the moment because these folks are so annoying that it's hard not to call them idiots when they aren't on ignore.
It's just better to avoid that temptation...but then you see what they wrote quoted by someone and you're like "Geez, what a moron...I wish ignore worked better...".
Even more helpful when folks stop replying to them.
Not dinging you, just commenting again that the ignore feature isn't all that useful at the moment because these folks are so annoying that it's hard not to call them idiots when they aren't on ignore.
It's just better to avoid that temptation...but then you see what they wrote quoted by someone and you're like "Geez, what a moron...I wish ignore worked better...".
Exactly. Practice self-control. Try it - you may like it.
I get it. But I don't understand why the software can't check and hide ignored users from properly quoted replies. Even though TechXXX has made quite a name for himself (in all its variations), on here, the person replying and quoting doesn't always know who is on who's ignore list.
You missed a couple of other basic problems with the iPad. If you try to throw it like a Frisbee, it's not going to go very far since it's the wrong shape and it's still probably going to break when it hits the ground. For skipping across a lake, a rock is still a better choice, and a lot less expensive. It also doesn't come with a loop for hanging it on your belt, a feature a lot of people need and are going to miss.
And, while biscuits might not stick on the oleophobic-coated surface, the components are ill-suited to survive a mere 30 minutes in the oven. What a ripoff! I may need to rethink my pre-order.
Ah... but Techstud is a more entrenched troll. Bridges would still expose him to the elements - in this case, actual post contributors. No... Techstud's type of breed flourishes best in dark, damp areas such as their parents' basement where the realities of the world cannot penetrate, leaving them free to construct their own abstract, twisted realities. Then their parents can come down and keep them fed as they cannot fend for themselves and enter daylight.
I'm not sure MS would bother to rewrite their suite for the iPad. More likely they'd extend their Microsoft Office Live online presence and go with a browser solution. That seems to be their future direction with Azure and other services.
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A native Microsoft Office (and specially PowerPoint) for the iPad is a must. As is a USB port for the remote control and to share files. Hopefully in the near future. Meanwhile waiting...
You don't need USB for a remote control. Bluetooth or WiFi would work fine without a dongle. Personally I want an iPhone app to control my iPad. If you really want a dongle, I'm sure someone will make one that uses a dock connector. From what I understand it is easy to share files with computers on the iPad, just plug it in an any app that you've enabled sharing on the iPad will show up as its own drive/folder that you can drag and drop files into and out of. Of course there is also the camera connection kit that give you an SD card reader and a usb port, but the full capabilities are an unknown right now.
Keynote would probably display most powerpoints just fine, but hopefully Microsoft does make some Office Apps.
Before focusing on "must haves" it is good to familiarize yourself with the actual device. Of course we will know more when it launches and we can hold one, but a little advance research doesn't hurt. It already has a lot of the capabilities you want it to have, just not presented in the same way you are accustomed to.
They're practically giving iWork away.
So much for the "but it's not a 'serious' machine" bleating.
No, it won't run FCP (yet), but you can sure as hell whip up a nice Keynote presentation, etc.
Just one problem. This survey is in direct contradiction to the survey posted on this site yesterday.
Yesterday it was web browsing, gaming and updating your address book. This is not a serious machine because it doesn't have the power to process serious applications or work.
Most enterprise people will not take to a Tablet or else the market would have been flooded with them already. Tablets have been around for quite some time, it's not a new trend what so ever.
Having had a lot of them they sucked in different ways so it's not that enterprise people don't WANT a tablet...just that they want one that doesn't SUCK. Apple products typically doesn't suck.
A real keyboard and the screen being held up on it's own is essential to enterprises needs.
Gee...then it's a good thing there's a keyboard dock...
They will use a netbook instead if price is problem or they don't need a lot of performance.
Or an iPad if they want something easy to use and more portable than most netbooks.
For the iPad the limitations are these:
64GB to limiting for storage.
No Ethernet port for those places where security is a issue.
Can't run software outside of the App Store.
No Flash
64GB isn't too bad even given rather large keynote files. Larger would be better but I think most folks are used to culling what they keep on mobile devices.
Ethernet can likely be run through the dock connector if desired. If there is a market, someone will make a dongle or a dock. But lets be honest, wired ethernet on a device like this makes it simply annoying to use unless docked. Using a secure VPN tunnel is probably secure enough for most folks.
You can run any enterprise software you develop with an enterprise dev account.
Flash...meh.
Apple can do what they want because they are a consumer products company, enterprise has more open and other needs that is better served by the Windows PC and RIMs of the world.
Except that there is a gap between a smartphone and a laptop in the enterprise world for something useful for meetings and travel. The iPad is ideal given that the keyboard dock allows for writing fairly lengthy documents.
The iPad being adopted wide scale by enterprise is a pipe dream, schools yes, enterprise no.
We'll see.
Since the supposed Kindle-killer app is iBooks, no? And neither the survey - nor more than a few mentions in the forum - even mention them at all.
So will book uptake (and interactive magazine apps - also not a focus anywhere here) fall below expectations even if the device as a whole is a hit??
Just one problem. This survey is in direct contradiction to the survey posted on this site yesterday.
Yesterday it was web browsing, gaming and updating your address book. This is not a serious machine because it doesn't have the power to process serious applications or work.
Nice FUD.
Wierd, I thought you were already on my ignore list. Easy enough to fix.
Just one problem. This survey is in direct contradiction to the survey posted on this site yesterday.
Yesterday it was web browsing, gaming and updating your address book. This is not a serious machine because it doesn't have the power to process serious applications or work.
He always tries to twists everything around to prove it's a game changer. Kind of delusional actually.
Nice FUD.
Wierd, I thought you were already on my ignore list. Easy enough to fix.
I love how myself and a select few are always on everybody's "IGNORE" list yet we always invariably get responses in droves.
I'd say it'll be there. iWork for Mac and iWork.com both have export options for Powerpoint and Excel formats.
Yes, I use iWork on my Mac, so I'm aware of that, but I posted that from Apple's site because it thought it was a bit odd and maybe telling that they specifically mention being able to import from MS products, but when exporting or sharing options, they do not mention exporting to MS products (except for Pages). Maybe they are still working on it for the release, but for now it sounds like it is NOT possible.
It's its Tech, ITS and not IT'S. Got that?
Wow- now that really adds to the thread.
Correct my spelling anytime.
I love how myself and a select few are always on everybody's "IGNORE" list yet we always invariably get responses in droves.
It would be a lot easier for folks if you didn't keep signing up with different variations of the same name when you get banned.
It would be a lot easier for folks if you didn't keep signing up with different variations of the same name when you get banned.
Why do you need a list to ignore in the first place ? Haven't you ever been taught how to skim read? I do it all the time- especially the gang of four's posts. No need to put them on a list- that's so jouvenille.
What company in their right mind is going to lose business because they insist on not being compatible with everyone else?
Well, it has worked for Microsoft so far.
No Ethernet port for those places where security is a issue.
Say WHAT? I've worked for Banks and Hospitals [two very security conscious industries] and this is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
Can't run software outside of the App Store.
Not true - it just cost more to get the dev kit.
As for the rest of his nonsense, not even worth quoting.
Apples failure to break into the 'enterprise' is mostly self inflicted. It has nothing to do with the quality of hardware or software. It has to do with choices Apple has made not to compete in that comodity market.
As to the topic at hand - the iPad - you fail to see that it is not a notebook/netbook replacment or competitor. You equate previous failed tablet products by PC vendors as a predictor that the iPad will fail.
What you fail to understand is - the iPad is not computer based on your definition of computer.
Is this something my finance person is going to hammer out spreadsheets on? No.
Is this something my IT worker is going to manage database servers with on a daily basis? No.
Is this something my managers are going to use to check calendars between meetings? Send quick emails? Review email attachements? Possibly use web portal based intranet apps? YES.
Our managers already do this. On $2000+ panasonic toughbooks. with 2-3 hr battery life. that weigh in at a nice 4 pounds.
the iPad is not a laptop, netbook, or desktop replacement. And if you think that those are the only computer 'niches' in the 'enterprise', you are mistaken.
It would be a lot easier for folks if you didn't keep signing up with different variations of the same name when you get banned.
Even more helpful when folks stop replying to them.
Not dinging you, just commenting again that the ignore feature isn't all that useful at the moment because these folks are so annoying that it's hard not to call them idiots when they aren't on ignore.
It's just better to avoid that temptation...but then you see what they wrote quoted by someone and you're like "Geez, what a moron...I wish ignore worked better...".
Even more helpful when folks stop replying to them.
Not dinging you, just commenting again that the ignore feature isn't all that useful at the moment because these folks are so annoying that it's hard not to call them idiots when they aren't on ignore.
It's just better to avoid that temptation...but then you see what they wrote quoted by someone and you're like "Geez, what a moron...I wish ignore worked better...".
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Even more helpful when folks stop replying to them.
Not dinging you, just commenting again that the ignore feature isn't all that useful at the moment because these folks are so annoying that it's hard not to call them idiots when they aren't on ignore.
It's just better to avoid that temptation...but then you see what they wrote quoted by someone and you're like "Geez, what a moron...I wish ignore worked better...".
Exactly. Practice self-control. Try it - you may like it.
You missed a couple of other basic problems with the iPad. If you try to throw it like a Frisbee, it's not going to go very far since it's the wrong shape and it's still probably going to break when it hits the ground. For skipping across a lake, a rock is still a better choice, and a lot less expensive. It also doesn't come with a loop for hanging it on your belt, a feature a lot of people need and are going to miss.
And, while biscuits might not stick on the oleophobic-coated surface, the components are ill-suited to survive a mere 30 minutes in the oven. What a ripoff! I may need to rethink my pre-order.
Bridge. Trolls live under bridges.
Ah... but Techstud is a more entrenched troll. Bridges would still expose him to the elements - in this case, actual post contributors. No... Techstud's type of breed flourishes best in dark, damp areas such as their parents' basement where the realities of the world cannot penetrate, leaving them free to construct their own abstract, twisted realities. Then their parents can come down and keep them fed as they cannot fend for themselves and enter daylight.
A sad and tortured existence, really...