Remote areas won't receive iPad Saturday, but 'vast majority' will

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  • Reply 61 of 78
    hexorhexor Posts: 57member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by HappyPappy View Post


    Mine just landed in KY



    Mine must be with yours! But I'm in one of those "too remote" areas!!!!
  • Reply 62 of 78
    eightzeroeightzero Posts: 2,920member
    All of about 24 hours left. I think this one is going to miss my a longshot. "Vast Majority" will likely see delivery midweek.
  • Reply 63 of 78
    elrothelroth Posts: 1,201member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by wagnercv View Post


    Yes.. I live in norman OK... Home of the Sooners... FEDEX delivers sat but Not UPS.. Why did apple choose saturday delivery! Seems just plan wrong!!!!!



    Oh well, what can you do....



    I think there's a misunderstanding here. If you send a package UPS, it will not normally be delivered on Saturday anywhere. However, you can pay extra and have it delivered Saturday, where that option is available, which appears to be most non-rural areas. Apple paid extra for that Saturday delivery, so while normally you would not get a UPS package on Saturday, this time you very well might (I don't know about Norman specifically).
  • Reply 64 of 78
    mauimacmauimac Posts: 26member
    "...in a rural area (or, unfortunately, Hawaii)..."



    I got a double whammy. I live in a rural area in Hawaii. To make things worst, shipments can take up to one extra day just to get to Maui and my iPad is still in "AIR TRANSIT SCAN INCHEON, KR".
  • Reply 65 of 78
    svnippsvnipp Posts: 430member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by HappyPappy View Post


    Mine just landed in KY



    I'm a bit frustrated by the UPS site. The tracking number for mine has said "Billing Information Received" for days, and even tonight there is no further update. I'm going to be more than a bit pissed if it doesn't show up here tomorrow when I could have just as easily have driven into the local Apple store to pick it up.
  • Reply 66 of 78
    I am getting a bit pissed off. It is 12:40am on the day it is suppost to be delivered, and UPS only says my iPad has departed from China sometime yesterday...then lost to the world. Who knows were the hell it is? Oh well, out drinking anyway...I'll just have one more.
  • Reply 67 of 78
    dr millmossdr millmoss Posts: 5,403member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by svnipp View Post


    I'm a bit frustrated by the UPS site. The tracking number for mine has said "Billing Information Received" for days, and even tonight there is no further update. I'm going to be more than a bit pissed if it doesn't show up here tomorrow when I could have just as easily have driven into the local Apple store to pick it up.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Matt_ThomasMD View Post


    I am getting a bit pissed off. It is 12:40am on the day it is suppost to be delivered, and UPS only says my iPad has departed from China sometime yesterday...then lost to the world. Who knows were the hell it is? Oh well, out drinking anyway...I'll just have one more.



    And I thought I was the kid on Christmas Eve. Look, wait until morning (not half-past midnight, real morning). If the status hasn't changed to "out for delivery," then get frustrated and pissed off if you like. Not that it means your delivery won't arrive that day. I've had lots of UPS packages not show anything new in their delivery status until it turned up on my doorstep.
  • Reply 68 of 78
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post


    The UPS tracking info appeared several hours after the Apple shipping notification:



    The tracking info has never been updated!



    Sigh...



    I hate when they do that. I have two solutions for these delivery companies.
    1. I'm guessing they have to scan in everything individually but not use a relative system where you put into a container and then a single scan of that container at a new location updates every intem within.

    2. I hate having to wait all day for a package that needs to be signed. I figure they are put on the trucks in the relative order they are delivered and I know the shipped data is on their website within a couple minutes of delivery so why not use a backend system that gives you ever-shrinking approximation of the likely time it will get delivered using a sliding window setup.

  • Reply 69 of 78
    dick applebaumdick applebaum Posts: 12,527member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    I hate when they do that. I have two solutions for these delivery companies.
    1. I'm guessing they have to scan in everything individually but not use a relative system where you put into a container and then a single scan of that container at a new location updates every intem within.

    2. I hate having to wait all day for a package that needs to be signed. I figure they are put on the trucks in the relative order they are delivered and I know the shipped data is on their website within a couple minutes of delivery so why not use a backend system that gives you ever-shrinking approximation of the likely time it will get delivered using a sliding window setup.






    Apple:

    Ordered on: Mar 12, 2010 at 05:35 AM PDT

    Shipped on: Mar 31, 2010 via UPS



    UPS:

    Status: Billing Information Received

    Shipped To: ANTIOCH, CA, US

    Shipped/Billed On:04/02/2010



    Here's my current status:



    LOUISVILLE, KY, US\t04/03/2010\t12:42 A.M.\tIMPORT SCAN

    CN\t03/31/2010\t7:21 A.M.\tBILLING INFORMATION RECEIVED










    I like most things about UPS but their tracking,





    Your suggestions are interesting:



    Let's assume that for scheduled large pickup batches such as these, before pickup Apple electronically provides UPS with the:



    --Batch#, Pallet#, Traveler#, Pkg#, Signature required, Cubes, Weight, zip, scheduled delivery date (plus a lot of other detail) for each package

    --Each batch consists of thousands of individual packages, palletized acording to zip code and devivery date;



    This is the "billing info received"





    Once UPS has this "billing info" it can fan-out the delivery, processing and tracking requirements and match it with its schedules (pickup, depots, sorting/sub-batching, loading/unloading, flights, trucks... down to the destination depot.





    At this point (before anything has left the shipper), tthere is enough information for UPS to post individual tracking info with:



    --expected arrival date and latest delivery time on that date. (in case of the iPads, this is the same for all non-rural orders)



    They also can compute best/worst delivery times for normal orders based on weather, history, hub traffic, location, etc.





    You leave the destination depot detail scheduling. to the local depot traffic manager.





    Then, the shipping process begins... with ever diminishing batches, sub-batches being scanned, processed, rebatched, schedule-adjusted, new-fan-out, at each point along the planned/adjusted route.



    The Traveler# is a push-down stack of numbers, generated in transit, that ideneifies groups of packages as they lose their batch identity abd gain new ones.





    So, as the days dwindle down to a precious few. the schedule/progress info becomes more accurate.



    All the while. the traffic manager at the destination depot is monitoring his expected receipts/disbursements and refining his schedule for space, personal, vehicles.



    As his "likely" schedule emerges he can use the Traveler# fan-out to batch post refined expected/worst delivery time-- your sliding window.



    This could be posted daily (or hourly, when we get to the short strokes). UPS could even offer an option to IM the deliveree as the schedule changes or solidifies.



    Mmmm... Scan, Fan. Schedule, Post, Process, Repeat.... even I could write a program to do that on an iPod (with the help of the cloid)



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  • Reply 70 of 78
    gomigomi Posts: 5member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post


    Apple:

    Ordered on: Mar 12, 2010 at 05:35 AM PDT

    Shipped on: Mar 31, 2010 via UPS



    UPS:

    Status: Billing Information Received

    Shipped To: ANTIOCH, CA, US

    Shipped/Billed On:04/02/2010



    Here's my current status:



    LOUISVILLE, KY, US\t04/03/2010\t12:42 A.M.\tIMPORT SCAN

    CN\t03/31/2010\t7:21 A.M.\tBILLING INFORMATION RECEIVED










    I like most things about UPS but their tracking,





    Your suggestions are interesting:



    Let's assume that for scheduled large pickup batches such as these, before pickup Apple electronically provides UPS with the:



    --Batch#, Pallet#, Traveler#, Pkg#, Signature required, Cubes, Weight, zip, scheduled delivery date (plus a lot of other detail) for each package

    --Each batch consists of thousands of individual packages, palletized acording to zip code and devivery date;



    This is the "billing info received"





    Once UPS has this "billing info" it can fan-out the delivery, processing and tracking requirements and match it with its schedules (pickup, depots, sorting/sub-batching, loading/unloading, flights, trucks... down to the destination depot.





    At this point (before anything has left the shipper), tthere is enough information for UPS to post individual tracking info with:



    --expected arrival date and latest delivery time on that date. (in case of the iPads, this is the same for all non-rural orders)



    They also can compute best/worst delivery times for normal orders based on weather, history, hub traffic, location, etc.





    You leave the destination depot detail scheduling. to the local depot traffic manager.





    Then, the shipping process begins... with ever diminishing batches, sub-batches being scanned, processed, rebatched, schedule-adjusted, new-fan-out, at each point along the planned/adjusted route.



    The Traveler# is a push-down stack of numbers, generated in transit, that ideneifies groups of packages as they lose their batch identity abd gain new ones.





    So, as the days dwindle down to a precious few. the schedule/progress info becomes more accurate.



    All the while. the traffic manager at the destination depot is monitoring his expected receipts/disbursements and refining his schedule for space, personal, vehicles.



    As his "likely" schedule emerges he can use the Traveler# to fan-out to batch post refined expected/worst delivery time-- your sliding window.



    This could be posted daily (or hourly, when we get to the short strokes). UPS could even offer an option to IM the deliveree as the schedule changes or solidifies.



    Mmmm... Scan, Fan. Schedule, Process, Repeat.... even I could write a program to do that on an iPod (with the help of the cloid)



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    You've obviously thought about devising a way to provide useful tracking information. Has Brown? Do they even care?
  • Reply 71 of 78
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post


    [...]

    Mmmm... Scan, Fan. Schedule, Post, Process, Repeat.... even I could write a program to do that on an iPod (with the help of the cloid)



    Right?! Let's patent the crap out of this idea.
  • Reply 72 of 78
    dick applebaumdick applebaum Posts: 12,527member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gomi View Post


    You've obviously thought about devising a way to provide useful tracking information. Has Brown? Do they even care?



    I think they care,,, if we could only get them to share.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    Right?! Let's patent the crap out of this idea.



    Yeah!



    I'm lying in bed warching an Alan Kay video, and checking UPS tracking, typing (badly).



    LOUISVILLE, KY, US\t04/03/2010\t4:55 A.M.\tDEPARTURE SCAN



    Whopee... it's left LoolVull!





    I am really jazzed to get my iPad. and experience it. I've been using/programming computers since 1956.



    I think that, with the iPad, for the first time we (the computer and I) can reach out and touch each other. The original Mac was good, but the mouse got in the way. The iPhone was close, but the screen is too small.



    From Alan Kay: "If you want someone to go along with you, involve them in a conspiracy... user interface design is a conspiracy".



    ...maybe that's the magic of the iPad... a conspiracy!



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  • Reply 73 of 78
    s4mb4s4mb4 Posts: 267member
    mine says "left KY at 6:18 am"....

    i live in the detroit MI area.....

    i cannot imagine how it get to me before noon unless the UPS jet lands on my court....





    update!!!!



    arrived at Detroit metro airport ups hub @ 7:27am.... now im getting excited,
  • Reply 74 of 78
    finetunesfinetunes Posts: 2,065member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by s4mb4 View Post


    mine says "left KY at 6:18 am"....

    i live in the detroit MI area.....

    i cannot imagine how it get to me before noon unless the UPS jet lands on my court....





    update!!!!



    arrived at Detroit metro airport ups hub @ 7:27am.... now im getting excited,



    Looks like that you should get yours today. You should have been waiting at the gate.
  • Reply 75 of 78
    eightzeroeightzero Posts: 2,920member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by eightzero View Post


    All of about 24 hours left. I think this one is going to miss my a longshot. "Vast Majority" will likely see delivery midweek.



    I take it all back, and was wrong about Brown. Guess what is in my hot little hand, delivered to my door 10 minutes ago?



    Wow.
  • Reply 76 of 78
    finetunesfinetunes Posts: 2,065member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Matt_ThomasMD View Post


    I am getting a bit pissed off. It is 12:40am on the day it is suppost to be delivered, and UPS only says my iPad has departed from China sometime yesterday...then lost to the world. Who knows were the hell it is? Oh well, out drinking anyway...I'll just have one more.



    And when you get home there will be a UPS attempted delivery notice. You should'a called your local UPS depot... If your area is busy, there could be a late delivery? Good luck on getting yours today.
  • Reply 77 of 78
    xgmanxgman Posts: 158member
    Huh, UPS is delivering ipads today, Sat . . .
  • Reply 78 of 78
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by xgman View Post


    Huh, UPS is delivering ipads today, Sat . . .



    Apple has made them go back to homes to pick up packages even after they were opened so I don't think getting UPS to work on a day they do delivery is that much of a stretch. Apple will likely have to pay more for delivery, or maybe this is paybck for the UPS' previous delivery boondogle.



    When Steve Jobs says "Jump!", you say "Is there an app for that?"
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