I'm not seeing it. I can't see a 10" device replacing a 13" to 30"+ PC display. I think are too many revolutions to be had before a tablet will be considered over a PC the way notebooks are now considered over desktops.
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Originally Posted by frankie
I still can't understand how this thing doesn't have a USB port...
Seriously I don't get it.
It has USB, but what standardized USB port did you want? USB-A, USB-B, Mini-USB or Micro-USB? And what do you need it for?
I'm hoping some of the remote desktop/vnc applications will open the iPad up for serious computing for me. I already use my iphone to vnc into my main workstation and perform simple tasks, but the screen size of the phone has always been to limiting for real work. Have you seen wormhole remote? It's not available yet, but it proposes to present a layer of obstruction to present remote applications in a user friendly fashion on the iPad. This device opens up a world of opportunities as a thin client.
I still can't understand how this thing doesn't have a USB port...
Seriously I don't get it.
It connects to your computers USB port and allows you to input files to and from the applications on your computer via iTunes. The 3rd party applications I use like goodreader also grab content from MobileMe, google docs and urls. A lot of people use 3rd party tools like drop box to sync their content from all their devices. People are also coming up with new products like airstash to seamlessly transfer files between computers and mobile devices. I personally don't see the need to connect this to a USB drive. I have a main computer that is connected to the USB drive. I connect my mobile devices to my main computer and get the content.
I still can't understand how this thing doesn't have a USB port...
Seriously I don't get it.
I'll add these to previous suggestions:
(1) Apple doesn't have the developer resources necessary to prepare the numerous drivers that would be required by product launch time;
(2) better device lock-down.
(3) Apple doesn't want people attaching external disks anyway: access methods and drivers are required; better motivation to buy a model with more internal storage; more motivation to upgrade sooner.
(4) A standard USB interface is "open", whereas the iPod connector must be licensed from Apple.
I'm not seeing it. I can't see a 10" device replacing a 13" to 30"+ PC display. I think are too many revolutions to be had before a tablet will be considered over a PC the way notebooks are now considered over desktops.
It has USB, but what standardized USB port did you want? USB-A, USB-B, Mini-USB or Micro-USB? And what do you need it for?
As far as I can tell the USB is only for importing photos- with an adapter. Just put a dang USB port on it and you can move files around effortlessly...seriously. What would that cost them 50 cents?!
You can't rest them a little. They have to be up and off. I'm finding myself using the pointing and middle finger on both hands if I want to get speed and accuracy. I'm getting used to it, but it's taken a couple of hours with the device.
I can't believe he had the audacity to state that it is a dream to type on
It is an amazing product but if you bought iWork to be productive with the device, think again
The idea and I guess brilliant execution of multitouch iWork defies gravity but the virtual keyboard is a piece of CRAP
Actually on a second thought, it is in fact a DREAM to type on if u are coming from an iPhone and trust me I will defend the iPhone keyboard any day because I think it's the best we will ever get at that size
The ipad v keyboard is very accurate once you give up all hope trying to touch type on it.
I find I type really fast and accurate on it using just two fingers (left and right middle fingers) when it is on my lap or laid flat on my bed of course but it gets tiring and frustrating really quick
But it is a PIPE DREAM to be "productive" with pages/iWork without a real physical keyboard and trust me it is a bag of hurt for those on the fence because of the ipads apparent lack of "mobile" productivity
again it lacks "Mobile" productivity. As u can see I stressed the word "mobile".
And guess what? I typed this post on the iPad virtual keyboard and it was a bag of hurt after spending 20 mins now on what shud have taken 5 min
This doesn't apply to anyone here, but to those who persist in using "this is nothing but a big iPod Touch" cliche, consider this. One might as well critique the truck by saying that it is nothing more than a large car. While they both have all the same basic components and structure, would we really want to scrap trucks because we have cars? Sometimes scaling up allows you to do some things better.
Very good analogy. I worked out a similar analogy for both the questions :
It is just a big iPod Touch ?
= Is dinner plate just a big saucer ?
Why would I need iPad when I can do everything with my MacBook ?
= Why do I need dinner plate when I could eat in my frying pan ?
iPod is a fail. It does not have USB, or filesystem as my macbook ?
Dinner plate is a fail. It does not have handle or teflon coating like my frying pan ?
As far as I can tell the USB is only for importing photos- with an adapter. Just put a dang USB port on it and you can move files around effortlessly...seriously. What would that cost them 50 cents?!
The iPad is a mobile appliance and apple is treating it as such. You can move files on and off of the device using iTunes.
What I like best is the keyboard is a LOT easier to use than i would have imagined. Much less of a learning curve compared to the iPhone (thumbs get in the way). And it passed the important "not look at screen to type" test with amazing accuracy.
You almost don't even need the external keyboard for most typing sessions.
dagamer34 what are u smoking? I would like some of it because u sure must be having a PIPE DREAM to think/phantom the idea of touch typing on the virtual keyboard or perhaps you u got chicken fingers. Hope u get my message and can also take a joke.
Even God, the creator of man and man the creator of iPad - even God can't touch type on the damn virtual keyboard. Well with GOD all things are possible so perhaps only GOD is capable of being productive/typing with the virtual keyboard if u get my gist
I can't believe he had the audacity to state that it is a dream to type on
It is an amazing product but if you bought iWork to be productive with the device, think again
The idea and I guess brilliant execution of multitouch iWork defies gravity but the virtual keyboard is a piece of CRAP
Actually on a second thought, it is in fact a DREAM to type on if u are coming from an iPhone and trust me I will defend the iPhone keyboard any day because I think it's the best we will ever get at that size
The ipad v keyboard is very accurate once you give up all hope trying to touch type on it.
I find I type really fast and accurate on it using just two fingers (left and right middle fingers) when it is on my lap or laid flat on my bed of course but it gets tiring and frustrating really quick
But it is a PIPE DREAM to be "productive" with pages/iWork without a real physical keyboard and trust me it is a bag of hurt for those on the fence because of the ipads apparent lack of "mobile" productivity
again it lacks "Mobile" productivity. As u can see I stressed the word "mobile".
And guess what? I typed this post on the iPad virtual keyboard and it was a bag of hurt after spending 20 mins now on what shud have taken 5 min
I don't recall apple marketing this as a dream to type on. From what I understand for times when you need to do serious typing it's suggested you pair up a bluetooth keyboard or use the keyboard dock. I've seen my ability to type on this keyboard improving drastically over time. I hope you experience the same effect.
I don't recall apple marketing this as a dream to type on. From what I understand for times when you need to do serious typing it's suggested you pair up a bluetooth keyboard or use the keyboard dock. I've seen my ability to type on this keyboard improving drastically over time. I hope you experience the same effect.
Thanks for the words of encouragement and yes u are right I too have improved my typing with time but one still needs "the real thing" to be productive.
Oh by the way he really did say those words while he was presenting the keynote. He was sited on the couch with the iPad in his laps and he was demonstrating the keyboard while sending an email to a fellow worker. I shud have suspected then when he quickly-with the speed of light- glanced over that particular feature ( typing) of course...
Actually I have effectively doubled my speed on the just typing this reply.
But u still know where I stand
It might be a subjective thing. I suggest everyone go to apple/best buy store and try it out them selves and decide for them selves but keep in mind that with practice comes perfect and speed so I wouldn't base judgement solely on the first encounter
Look at the iPhone. We have all been trained to type on it now after about 2 years now
If you could mount a thumb drive to an iPad, how would you be able to see it's contents? There's no Finder. There will be no Finder on the iPad.
But when the iPad shows up in iTunes, you can drag Keynote files to an iPad Keynote folder on the iPad, Pages to Pages, Numbers to Numbers. Haven't seen any reports for any other apps yet, but the theory is that any app can turn on this capability.
Andy Ithnatko on a Fox.com Strategy Session, Gadgets and Games online broadcast stated he could type over 50 WPM. Money was laid on the table. Andy demonstrated his speed on camera. Andy's had his iPad for over a week.
Just like the iPhone, it will take users a few days to get up to speed on the virtual keyboard. I know I spent a couple of hours with a typing program on the iPod touch and dramatically increased my speed.
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I'm hoping some of the remote desktop/vnc applications will open the iPad up for serious computing for me.
I watched a demo of one a few days ago that looked pretty good. I don't know what it was called though.
Oh we'll get there.
I'm not seeing it. I can't see a 10" device replacing a 13" to 30"+ PC display. I think are too many revolutions to be had before a tablet will be considered over a PC the way notebooks are now considered over desktops.
I still can't understand how this thing doesn't have a USB port...
Seriously I don't get it.
It has USB, but what standardized USB port did you want? USB-A, USB-B, Mini-USB or Micro-USB? And what do you need it for?
I'm hoping some of the remote desktop/vnc applications will open the iPad up for serious computing for me. I already use my iphone to vnc into my main workstation and perform simple tasks, but the screen size of the phone has always been to limiting for real work. Have you seen wormhole remote? It's not available yet, but it proposes to present a layer of obstruction to present remote applications in a user friendly fashion on the iPad. This device opens up a world of opportunities as a thin client.
If Jaadu VNC is available for the iPad. . .
I still can't understand how this thing doesn't have a USB port...
Seriously I don't get it.
I thought there was a adapter?
Have you tried a male/male adapter to the supplied cable?
I still can't understand how this thing doesn't have a USB port...
Seriously I don't get it.
It connects to your computers USB port and allows you to input files to and from the applications on your computer via iTunes. The 3rd party applications I use like goodreader also grab content from MobileMe, google docs and urls. A lot of people use 3rd party tools like drop box to sync their content from all their devices. People are also coming up with new products like airstash to seamlessly transfer files between computers and mobile devices. I personally don't see the need to connect this to a USB drive. I have a main computer that is connected to the USB drive. I connect my mobile devices to my main computer and get the content.
I still can't understand how this thing doesn't have a USB port...
Seriously I don't get it.
I'll add these to previous suggestions:
(1) Apple doesn't have the developer resources necessary to prepare the numerous drivers that would be required by product launch time;
(2) better device lock-down.
(3) Apple doesn't want people attaching external disks anyway: access methods and drivers are required; better motivation to buy a model with more internal storage; more motivation to upgrade sooner.
(4) A standard USB interface is "open", whereas the iPod connector must be licensed from Apple.
I thought there was a adapter?
Have you tried a male/male adapter to the supplied cable?
Spoton, come on now. You know the iPad won't connect to a USB drive.
I'm not seeing it. I can't see a 10" device replacing a 13" to 30"+ PC display. I think are too many revolutions to be had before a tablet will be considered over a PC the way notebooks are now considered over desktops.
It has USB, but what standardized USB port did you want? USB-A, USB-B, Mini-USB or Micro-USB? And what do you need it for?
As far as I can tell the USB is only for importing photos- with an adapter. Just put a dang USB port on it and you can move files around effortlessly...seriously. What would that cost them 50 cents?!
You can't rest them a little. They have to be up and off. I'm finding myself using the pointing and middle finger on both hands if I want to get speed and accuracy. I'm getting used to it, but it's taken a couple of hours with the device.
Ok, cool thanks
If Jaadu VNC is available for the iPad. . .
I've been staring at desktop connect a vnc client for ipad for 15 minutes now. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/deskt...364907570?mt=8
I haven't pulled the trigger. Has anyone used it yet?
I still can't understand how this thing doesn't have a USB port...
Seriously I don't get it.
Seriously, if you really need USB, get the iPod connector adapter for those times when you need USB.
One less opening into the case. Which, come to think of it, could have some EMI consequences.
But esthetics likely is a bit more of a factor.
I can't believe he had the audacity to state that it is a dream to type on
It is an amazing product but if you bought iWork to be productive with the device, think again
The idea and I guess brilliant execution of multitouch iWork defies gravity but the virtual keyboard is a piece of CRAP
Actually on a second thought, it is in fact a DREAM to type on if u are coming from an iPhone and trust me I will defend the iPhone keyboard any day because I think it's the best we will ever get at that size
The ipad v keyboard is very accurate once you give up all hope trying to touch type on it.
I find I type really fast and accurate on it using just two fingers (left and right middle fingers) when it is on my lap or laid flat on my bed of course but it gets tiring and frustrating really quick
But it is a PIPE DREAM to be "productive" with pages/iWork without a real physical keyboard and trust me it is a bag of hurt for those on the fence because of the ipads apparent lack of "mobile" productivity
again it lacks "Mobile" productivity. As u can see I stressed the word "mobile".
And guess what? I typed this post on the iPad virtual keyboard and it was a bag of hurt after spending 20 mins now on what shud have taken 5 min
This doesn't apply to anyone here, but to those who persist in using "this is nothing but a big iPod Touch" cliche, consider this. One might as well critique the truck by saying that it is nothing more than a large car. While they both have all the same basic components and structure, would we really want to scrap trucks because we have cars? Sometimes scaling up allows you to do some things better.
Very good analogy. I worked out a similar analogy for both the questions :
It is just a big iPod Touch ?
= Is dinner plate just a big saucer ?
Why would I need iPad when I can do everything with my MacBook ?
= Why do I need dinner plate when I could eat in my frying pan ?
iPod is a fail. It does not have USB, or filesystem as my macbook ?
Dinner plate is a fail. It does not have handle or teflon coating like my frying pan ?
Here is a detailed post if you like the analogy
http://srujan.org/wordpress/2010/04/...-dinner-plate/
-satyakam
As far as I can tell the USB is only for importing photos- with an adapter. Just put a dang USB port on it and you can move files around effortlessly...seriously. What would that cost them 50 cents?!
The iPad is a mobile appliance and apple is treating it as such. You can move files on and off of the device using iTunes.
... Typed on my iPad, while lying in bed!
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What I like best is the keyboard is a LOT easier to use than i would have imagined. Much less of a learning curve compared to the iPhone (thumbs get in the way). And it passed the important "not look at screen to type" test with amazing accuracy.
You almost don't even need the external keyboard for most typing sessions.
dagamer34 what are u smoking? I would like some of it because u sure must be having a PIPE DREAM to think/phantom the idea of touch typing on the virtual keyboard or perhaps you u got chicken fingers. Hope u get my message and can also take a joke.
Even God, the creator of man and man the creator of iPad - even God can't touch type on the damn virtual keyboard. Well with GOD all things are possible so perhaps only GOD is capable of being productive/typing with the virtual keyboard if u get my gist
I have been bamboozled by Steve.
I can't believe he had the audacity to state that it is a dream to type on
It is an amazing product but if you bought iWork to be productive with the device, think again
The idea and I guess brilliant execution of multitouch iWork defies gravity but the virtual keyboard is a piece of CRAP
Actually on a second thought, it is in fact a DREAM to type on if u are coming from an iPhone and trust me I will defend the iPhone keyboard any day because I think it's the best we will ever get at that size
The ipad v keyboard is very accurate once you give up all hope trying to touch type on it.
I find I type really fast and accurate on it using just two fingers (left and right middle fingers) when it is on my lap or laid flat on my bed of course but it gets tiring and frustrating really quick
But it is a PIPE DREAM to be "productive" with pages/iWork without a real physical keyboard and trust me it is a bag of hurt for those on the fence because of the ipads apparent lack of "mobile" productivity
again it lacks "Mobile" productivity. As u can see I stressed the word "mobile".
And guess what? I typed this post on the iPad virtual keyboard and it was a bag of hurt after spending 20 mins now on what shud have taken 5 min
I don't recall apple marketing this as a dream to type on. From what I understand for times when you need to do serious typing it's suggested you pair up a bluetooth keyboard or use the keyboard dock. I've seen my ability to type on this keyboard improving drastically over time. I hope you experience the same effect.
I don't recall apple marketing this as a dream to type on. From what I understand for times when you need to do serious typing it's suggested you pair up a bluetooth keyboard or use the keyboard dock. I've seen my ability to type on this keyboard improving drastically over time. I hope you experience the same effect.
Thanks for the words of encouragement and yes u are right I too have improved my typing with time but one still needs "the real thing" to be productive.
Oh by the way he really did say those words while he was presenting the keynote. He was sited on the couch with the iPad in his laps and he was demonstrating the keyboard while sending an email to a fellow worker. I shud have suspected then when he quickly-with the speed of light- glanced over that particular feature ( typing) of course...
Actually I have effectively doubled my speed on the just typing this reply.
But u still know where I stand
It might be a subjective thing. I suggest everyone go to apple/best buy store and try it out them selves and decide for them selves but keep in mind that with practice comes perfect and speed so I wouldn't base judgement solely on the first encounter
Look at the iPhone. We have all been trained to type on it now after about 2 years now
Yes, the keys on the iPad seem to have the same area space as normal keys, just less of them.
When you type with all fingers, do you need to keep your fingers up and off?
Or can you rest them a little without activating?
I find I can only type fast and accurate using two fingers only (left and right middle Fingers) or whatever suites you
Or go one handed. U will be surprised how fast and accurate you can type with one finger and one hand just don't expect touch typing speeds
But when the iPad shows up in iTunes, you can drag Keynote files to an iPad Keynote folder on the iPad, Pages to Pages, Numbers to Numbers. Haven't seen any reports for any other apps yet, but the theory is that any app can turn on this capability.
Andy Ithnatko on a Fox.com Strategy Session, Gadgets and Games online broadcast stated he could type over 50 WPM. Money was laid on the table. Andy demonstrated his speed on camera. Andy's had his iPad for over a week.
Just like the iPhone, it will take users a few days to get up to speed on the virtual keyboard. I know I spent a couple of hours with a typing program on the iPod touch and dramatically increased my speed.