I think Jobs thinks about printers the way he thinks about floppy drives, cd drives and dvd drives.
I'd be interested in seeing how many people use a printer outside of the office anymore. I haven't printed anything at home since my junior year of college. By senior year, everyone was using turnitin.com. \
Nothing gets printed out for work either; it's all sent through DOCX or PDF.
Not an omission at all, there are third party printing solutions already available - after all, isn't that what most printers currently rely on anyway (with the exception of CUPS drivers, again not developed by apple).
At least he did at one time. People seem to want to dismiss this all the time but Apple does a lot for the open source community.
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You can print from the iPad using any number of apps, some free, some very inexpensive.
That may be so but a system supported method would be better for everybody.
And did Apple already have print issues fixed, cured, understood, and just not have it working, so folks could make comments, and then be directed to the Apple web site to download up-grades.
Thus keeping them tuned to Apple, and DOWNLOADING stuff on a regular basis, thus keeping their minds and fingers tied to Apple?
Now Printing is no longer an issue, another 300,000 sold But now this doesn't work fix it, have a download, sell another 300,000 once that fixed.
Offer iSight, (with a small bug) sell another 300,000 ? fix the bug, sell another 300,000, all the while Apple is in our minds, work places, the news and it's all folks are talking about - and yes, this is all FREE advertising for Apple and Mr. Jobs.
And did Apple already have print issues fixed, cured, understood, and just not have it working, so folks could make comments, and then be directed to the Apple web site to download up-grades.
Thus keeping them tuned to Apple, and DOWNLOADING stuff on a regular basis, thus keeping their minds and fingers tied to Apple?
Now Printing is no longer an issue, another 300,000 sold But now this doesn't work fix it, have a download, sell another 300,000 once that fixed.
Offer iSight, (with a small bug) sell another 300,000 ? fix the bug, sell another 300,000, all the while Apple is in our minds, work places, the news and it's all folks are talking about - and yes, this is all FREE advertising for Apple and Mr. Jobs.
I'd be interested in seeing how many people use a printer outside of the office anymore. I haven't printed anything at home since my junior year of college. By senior year, everyone was using turnitin.com. \
Nothing gets printed out for work either; it's all sent through DOCX or PDF.
You're undoubtedly the exception. The information I've seen is that paper printing has not declined at all, on average.
I certainly print a great deal. Now that I've found some printers that don't suck ink too badly, I print even more.
On the iPhone, I never had a desire to print anything. On my Mac - always. It will be interesting to see where the iPad fits in, but I suspect that I'll be printing quite a bit.
I'll be glad if the rumor is true and there is native printing rather than having to go through a third party app or email the files to my Mac.
What's that old saying, 'The only stupid question is the one that is not asked.' or is it 'There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers!' and since I am not a developer and would be of no help answering any computer question with the slightest degree of technicality, I'll save my stupid answer to myself.
you said nothing
walk backwards out of the room now
the new IPAD will have some computing powers after all !!!!
each day apple rocks our world
peace
OF NOTE I REGRET THE USE OF AN OFFENSIVE TEWRM HERE
My first thought when I saw Apple had added the ability for iPhone apps to create PDFs in OS 3.2 was that it'd be great for printing, in that a printer manufacturer could create a PDF printing app or at the very least I can just mail the PDF for anyone to print!
Of course, the iWork apps for iPad uses the PDF support as an export option, but still, I wouldn't be surprised if the PDF support turned out to be key to printing.
I would suspect you are correct. My money is on the same scenario.
When I purchased the Numbers and Keynote for my iPad I was expecting to be able to import Excel and PowerPoint files from my Windows desktop, work on them from my iPad, enhance them with that Apple elegance and export them back to my desktop.
What a disappointment it was to discover Numbers and Keynote for iPad can only export files as a PDF or in the native Numbers or Keynote format. Such is not the case in the iMac version of those products. The Pages app for iPad offers the ability to export files in a Word format.
For those of us who planned to use the iPad as a business tool, dumbing-down the export feature is a real turn-off and really restricts serious business use of these apps.
It may be a mistake that limits iPad sales in a world where talking back and forth in Excel and PowerPoint has become the standard.
As an iPad owner and an Apple share-holder, I sure hope that Apple techies are working on updates to fix this deficiency - quickly.
I'd be interested in seeing how many people use a printer outside of the office anymore. I haven't printed anything at home since my junior year of college. By senior year, everyone was using turnitin.com. \
Nothing gets printed out for work either; it's all sent through DOCX or PDF.
Makes sense. I don't do much printing outside of work. But I would need printing if I bought an iPad, work is the main way I justify buying a lot of things these days.
When I purchased the Numbers and Keynote for my iPad I was expecting to be able to import Excel and PowerPoint files from my Windows desktop, work on them from my iPad, enhance them with that Apple elegance and export them back to my desktop.
What a disappointment it was to discover Numbers and Keynote for iPad can only export files as a PDF or in the native Numbers or Keynote format. Such is not the case in the iMac version of those products. The Pages app for iPad offers the ability to export files in a Word format.
For those of us who planned to use the iPad as a business tool, dumbing-down the export feature is a real turn-off and really restricts serious business use of these apps.
It may be a mistake that limits iPad sales in a world where talking back and forth in Excel and PowerPoint has become the standard.
As an iPad owner and an Apple share-holder, I sure hope that Apple techies are working on updates to fix this deficiency - quickly.
When I purchased the Numbers and Keynote for my iPad I was expecting to be able to import Excel and PowerPoint files from my Windows desktop, work on them from my iPad, enhance them with that Apple elegance and export them back to my desktop.
What a disappointment it was to discover Numbers and Keynote for iPad can only export files as a PDF or in the native Numbers or Keynote format. Such is not the case in the iMac version of those products. The Pages app for iPad offers the ability to export files in a Word format.
For those of us who planned to use the iPad as a business tool, dumbing-down the export feature is a real turn-off and really restricts serious business use of these apps.
It may be a mistake that limits iPad sales in a world where talking back and forth in Excel and PowerPoint has become the standard.
When I purchased the Numbers and Keynote for my iPad I was expecting to be able to import Excel and PowerPoint files from my Windows desktop, work on them from my iPad, enhance them with that Apple elegance and export them back to my desktop.
What a disappointment it was to discover Numbers and Keynote for iPad can only export files as a PDF or in the native Numbers or Keynote format. Such is not the case in the iMac version of those products. The Pages app for iPad offers the ability to export files in a Word format.
For those of us who planned to use the iPad as a business tool, dumbing-down the export feature is a real turn-off and really restricts serious business use of these apps.
It may be a mistake that limits iPad sales in a world where talking back and forth in Excel and PowerPoint has become the standard.
As an iPad owner and an Apple share-holder, I sure hope that Apple techies are working on updates to fix this deficiency - quickly.
(I am still waiting for my 3G version.) I have to agree with you wholeheartedly. It is a half-assed, lame implementation. Should have been a no-brainer to do this.
Perhaps we'll get MS Office for the iPad, and it will be moot.
I honestly have never clicked on an ad intentionally in my entire life. If I want cool applications similar to ones I already have, I do a Google search or read sites like this one. With that said, I hope others see the value of ads so We all can keep reading free sites like this one.
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I'm particularly excited about iAd myself. Think about this: a running ad bar service is that is on the top or bottom of the iDevice (lord knows that there's plenty of space on the iPad), constantly letting you know about other apps that are similar to ones you've bought previously. That's pretty cool.
You could take it further and have the entire background have 3-D ads, kind of like the city in Blade Runner or MInority Report. It would be like having the future RIGHT IN YOUR HANDS.
And then I suppose you could take it even further by looking at that giant app database, or your 3G cellphone data tower, or whatever, and start putting in regular click ads into the mix that are targeted specifically to you based on your demographics. No more having stupid mortgage ads constantly pop up on web pages that don't interest me! Just like Minority Report, again.
And you presumably wanted/expected all the features of iWork for the Mac which costs $79 but to only pay the iPad version price of $29.97?
C'mon. You're being fatuous. (i) It is highly unlikely that someone only has iWork on the iPad and not on their Mac; (ii) The feature that he is asking for is rather basic and obvious. (It's not like he's asking for printing, for instance).
My first thought when I saw Apple had added the ability for iPhone apps to create PDFs in OS 3.2 was that it'd be great for printing, in that a printer manufacturer could create a PDF printing app or at the very least I can just mail the PDF for anyone to print!
When Macs share printers, they just require a postscript (or pdf?) driver on the machine printing to them. So no need for print drivers on the iPad at all if printing to Macs.
But.. there are lots of Windows machines. Perhaps Bonjour printing on Windows could accept a pdf from the iPad and print it from the Windows machine?
Also - my father bought a great wifi-based Canon all-in-one a month ago. It'd be good to print to that without a middle-man. The canon also scans documents straight into pdfs on Macs or Windows, quite a nice feature for an iPad. Lastly if I put my camera's SD card into the Canon printer it appears on my desktop as a drive.
...... A canon-iPad link could be VERY interesting but would certainly need driver support.
But at $100/year, the breadth of services offered by MobileMe are without peer.
This. My boss started drop box for all employees and it's very inefficient for what we do. I've been trying to come up with a proposal for switching him to MobileMe.
Makes sense. I don't do much printing outside of work. But I would need printing if I bought an iPad, work is the main way I justify buying a lot of things these days.
Now that wouldn't have anything to do with current tax laws, would it?
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I think Jobs thinks about printers the way he thinks about floppy drives, cd drives and dvd drives.
I'd be interested in seeing how many people use a printer outside of the office anymore. I haven't printed anything at home since my junior year of college. By senior year, everyone was using turnitin.com.
Nothing gets printed out for work either; it's all sent through DOCX or PDF.
Not an omission at all, there are third party printing solutions already available - after all, isn't that what most printers currently rely on anyway (with the exception of CUPS drivers, again not developed by apple).
At least he did at one time. People seem to want to dismiss this all the time but Apple does a lot for the open source community.
You can print from the iPad using any number of apps, some free, some very inexpensive.
That may be so but a system supported method would be better for everybody.
Dave
Thus keeping them tuned to Apple, and DOWNLOADING stuff on a regular basis, thus keeping their minds and fingers tied to Apple?
Now Printing is no longer an issue, another 300,000 sold
Offer iSight, (with a small bug
I'm just saying ?
Skip
And did Apple already have print issues fixed, cured, understood, and just not have it working, so folks could make comments, and then be directed to the Apple web site to download up-grades.
Thus keeping them tuned to Apple, and DOWNLOADING stuff on a regular basis, thus keeping their minds and fingers tied to Apple?
Now Printing is no longer an issue, another 300,000 sold
Offer iSight, (with a small bug
I'm just saying ?
Skip
Good suggestion. Skipped.
I'd be interested in seeing how many people use a printer outside of the office anymore. I haven't printed anything at home since my junior year of college. By senior year, everyone was using turnitin.com.
Nothing gets printed out for work either; it's all sent through DOCX or PDF.
You're undoubtedly the exception. The information I've seen is that paper printing has not declined at all, on average.
I certainly print a great deal. Now that I've found some printers that don't suck ink too badly, I print even more.
On the iPhone, I never had a desire to print anything. On my Mac - always. It will be interesting to see where the iPad fits in, but I suspect that I'll be printing quite a bit.
I'll be glad if the rumor is true and there is native printing rather than having to go through a third party app or email the files to my Mac.
What's that old saying, 'The only stupid question is the one that is not asked.' or is it 'There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers!' and since I am not a developer and would be of no help answering any computer question with the slightest degree of technicality, I'll save my stupid answer to myself.
you said nothing
walk backwards out of the room now
the new IPAD will have some computing powers after all !!!!
each day apple rocks our world
peace
OF NOTE I REGRET THE USE OF AN OFFENSIVE TEWRM HERE
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My first thought when I saw Apple had added the ability for iPhone apps to create PDFs in OS 3.2 was that it'd be great for printing, in that a printer manufacturer could create a PDF printing app or at the very least I can just mail the PDF for anyone to print!
Of course, the iWork apps for iPad uses the PDF support as an export option, but still, I wouldn't be surprised if the PDF support turned out to be key to printing.
I would suspect you are correct. My money is on the same scenario.
What a disappointment it was to discover Numbers and Keynote for iPad can only export files as a PDF or in the native Numbers or Keynote format. Such is not the case in the iMac version of those products. The Pages app for iPad offers the ability to export files in a Word format.
For those of us who planned to use the iPad as a business tool, dumbing-down the export feature is a real turn-off and really restricts serious business use of these apps.
It may be a mistake that limits iPad sales in a world where talking back and forth in Excel and PowerPoint has become the standard.
As an iPad owner and an Apple share-holder, I sure hope that Apple techies are working on updates to fix this deficiency - quickly.
I'd be interested in seeing how many people use a printer outside of the office anymore. I haven't printed anything at home since my junior year of college. By senior year, everyone was using turnitin.com.
Nothing gets printed out for work either; it's all sent through DOCX or PDF.
Makes sense. I don't do much printing outside of work. But I would need printing if I bought an iPad, work is the main way I justify buying a lot of things these days.
When I purchased the Numbers and Keynote for my iPad I was expecting to be able to import Excel and PowerPoint files from my Windows desktop, work on them from my iPad, enhance them with that Apple elegance and export them back to my desktop.
What a disappointment it was to discover Numbers and Keynote for iPad can only export files as a PDF or in the native Numbers or Keynote format. Such is not the case in the iMac version of those products. The Pages app for iPad offers the ability to export files in a Word format.
For those of us who planned to use the iPad as a business tool, dumbing-down the export feature is a real turn-off and really restricts serious business use of these apps.
It may be a mistake that limits iPad sales in a world where talking back and forth in Excel and PowerPoint has become the standard.
As an iPad owner and an Apple share-holder, I sure hope that Apple techies are working on updates to fix this deficiency - quickly.
Next time prepare homework before buying.
When I purchased the Numbers and Keynote for my iPad I was expecting to be able to import Excel and PowerPoint files from my Windows desktop, work on them from my iPad, enhance them with that Apple elegance and export them back to my desktop.
What a disappointment it was to discover Numbers and Keynote for iPad can only export files as a PDF or in the native Numbers or Keynote format. Such is not the case in the iMac version of those products. The Pages app for iPad offers the ability to export files in a Word format.
For those of us who planned to use the iPad as a business tool, dumbing-down the export feature is a real turn-off and really restricts serious business use of these apps.
It may be a mistake that limits iPad sales in a world where talking back and forth in Excel and PowerPoint has become the standard.
As an iPad owner and an Apple share-holder, I sure hope that Apple techies are working on http://forums.appleinsider.com/image...ote.gifupdates to fix this deficiency - quickly.
Next time prepare homework before buying.
Indeed.
And you presumably wanted/expected all the features of iWork for the Mac which costs $79 but to only pay the iPad version price of $29.97?
When I purchased the Numbers and Keynote for my iPad I was expecting to be able to import Excel and PowerPoint files from my Windows desktop, work on them from my iPad, enhance them with that Apple elegance and export them back to my desktop.
What a disappointment it was to discover Numbers and Keynote for iPad can only export files as a PDF or in the native Numbers or Keynote format. Such is not the case in the iMac version of those products. The Pages app for iPad offers the ability to export files in a Word format.
For those of us who planned to use the iPad as a business tool, dumbing-down the export feature is a real turn-off and really restricts serious business use of these apps.
It may be a mistake that limits iPad sales in a world where talking back and forth in Excel and PowerPoint has become the standard.
As an iPad owner and an Apple share-holder, I sure hope that Apple techies are working on updates to fix this deficiency - quickly.
(I am still waiting for my 3G version.) I have to agree with you wholeheartedly. It is a half-assed, lame implementation. Should have been a no-brainer to do this.
Perhaps we'll get MS Office for the iPad, and it will be moot.
Welcome to AI.
I'm particularly excited about iAd myself. Think about this: a running ad bar service is that is on the top or bottom of the iDevice (lord knows that there's plenty of space on the iPad), constantly letting you know about other apps that are similar to ones you've bought previously. That's pretty cool.
You could take it further and have the entire background have 3-D ads, kind of like the city in Blade Runner or MInority Report. It would be like having the future RIGHT IN YOUR HANDS.
And then I suppose you could take it even further by looking at that giant app database, or your 3G cellphone data tower, or whatever, and start putting in regular click ads into the mix that are targeted specifically to you based on your demographics. No more having stupid mortgage ads constantly pop up on web pages that don't interest me! Just like Minority Report, again.
The future is a wonderful place.
Indeed.
And you presumably wanted/expected all the features of iWork for the Mac which costs $79 but to only pay the iPad version price of $29.97?
C'mon. You're being fatuous. (i) It is highly unlikely that someone only has iWork on the iPad and not on their Mac; (ii) The feature that he is asking for is rather basic and obvious. (It's not like he's asking for printing, for instance).
Now the haters can harp on something else.
My first thought when I saw Apple had added the ability for iPhone apps to create PDFs in OS 3.2 was that it'd be great for printing, in that a printer manufacturer could create a PDF printing app or at the very least I can just mail the PDF for anyone to print!
When Macs share printers, they just require a postscript (or pdf?) driver on the machine printing to them. So no need for print drivers on the iPad at all if printing to Macs.
But.. there are lots of Windows machines. Perhaps Bonjour printing on Windows could accept a pdf from the iPad and print it from the Windows machine?
Also - my father bought a great wifi-based Canon all-in-one a month ago. It'd be good to print to that without a middle-man. The canon also scans documents straight into pdfs on Macs or Windows, quite a nice feature for an iPad. Lastly if I put my camera's SD card into the Canon printer it appears on my desktop as a drive.
...... A canon-iPad link could be VERY interesting but would certainly need driver support.
It's a good service, lots of users like it.
But at $100/year, the breadth of services offered by MobileMe are without peer.
This. My boss started drop box for all employees and it's very inefficient for what we do. I've been trying to come up with a proposal for switching him to MobileMe.
Makes sense. I don't do much printing outside of work. But I would need printing if I bought an iPad, work is the main way I justify buying a lot of things these days.
Now that wouldn't have anything to do with current tax laws, would it?
Any Bluetooth keyboard will work. This has been tested and confirmed with logitech and Microsoft keyboards. If it's Bluetooth, it should work.
Thanks for the info. Great news.