Was there anything about printing? I think this has to be there.
Nope. But the presentation was not a complete list of every new thing.
Lots of stuff was not mentioned, but Voice Recognition and built-in turn-by-turn navigation come to mind as some of the most glaring omissions. Baked-in search functionality is missing too.
The interface improvements are welcome. The folders thing is long overdue.
But it looked like all the folders icons will be basically the same, with no ability to make them look like, for example, a "Games" folder or a "Documents" folder. Needing to read the caption below the icon in order to distinguish them from one another easily pretty much makes the icon superfluous. I don't get it.
Pretty meh offerings overall. Surprising, given the competitive climate in the cellphone OS space these days.
In pop-up alerts, I'd like to see each app's icon displayed at least in miniature just to the left of the app's name. One's brain could then simultaneously recognize the icon and read the message in the pop-up, which I think would be faster and less tedious than having to check out the name of the app first.
Thanks for the clarification. I wasn't expecting new hardware to be unveiled, per se, but I was hoping for it. I'm aware that Apple marches to the beat of their own drum and all, but the EVO is looking incredibly tempting.
Bravo on multi-tasking and folders, though.
Don't get me wrong, I would have loved to hear about the next-gen iPhone today too, but apparently they wanted to stick to iOS 4 with this event. However, a segue into a sneak peek at the new iPhone would have been a great wrap-up to today's event. Perhaps we'll hear something after the iPad 3G ships later this month.
iPhone OS is becoming more similar to Android OS...
let us know when all android phones have a decent touch interface. It's ok (on the ones that support it) but sucks in certain apps, like maps. very inconsistent. ick.
let us know when all android phones have a decent touch interface. It's ok (on the ones that support it) but sucks in certain apps, like maps. very inconsistent. ick.
He was talking about the OS. But the response is about hardware.
But WRT hardware, there are both very nice Android phones and low-end Android phones. Expect to see lots and lots of them as time rolls on.
I'm psyched that Multitasking is coming. iPhone looking better. But now that iPad (4.0 available on the Fall) is out, even more people will rush to get them. All that it would be missing will be a front facing camera for chatting and hopefully the ability to make skype video calls
2. They are adding AD support, which might be great for the App vendors, but's really not great for the end users, unless we can disable them.
Many apps already have adverts.
They are an important source of revenue for developers which attracts developers to the platform, helps keep app prices down and even enables dev's to release free apps.
the only thing i see here that's unique is iAd, and it's something i REALLY don't want. Everything else is just apple playing catch-up...
i do see folders being very useful, esp. on the iPad.
lastly, i'd like to know what the limitations on the multitasking are - they were very very short on details there. something's got to give to preserve battery & processor usage...
They are an important source of revenue for developers which attracts developers to the platform, helps keep app prices down and even enables dev's to release free apps.
Devs have always been getting revenue from ads, iAd is designed for APPLE to get 40% of the ad revenue.
But it looked like all the folders icons will be basically the same, with no ability to make them look like, for example, a "Games" folder or a "Documents" folder. Needing to read the caption below the icon in order to distinguish them from one another easily pretty much makes the icon superfluous. I don't get it.
Don't know about you, but I leave Apps (and Folders in the future) in the same place all the time. So I automatically know where my Apps are, without needing to read the caption (or icon) for it. So if your "Games" folder is on the first page bottom right, you will know that's where it is always and don't have to read anything. Just tap on it.
Given they again haven't included glanceable information (notifications) on the lock screen, does anyone think that there's a hardware limitation that prevents it from working? Do you need two set of screen layers to achieve it the way other phones seem to do it?
Switcheable, configurable lock-screen notification is still something I really, really think they should do as everyone has to flick their phone multiple times a day just to check for missed calls etc.
I'm psyched that Multitasking is coming. iPhone looking better. But now that iPad (4.0 available on the Fall) is out, even more people will rush to get them. All that it would be missing will be a front facing camera for chatting and hopefully the ability to make skype video calls
The multitasking looks good.
It is somewhat surprising that iAds was not included in the multitasking section, given that it is basically a website embedded into an app. The main difference I saw between iAds and the current "change to a website" paradigm is that the main app keeps running while you access the advertising website (I know that a iAd is not a site on the web, but rather, a set of HTML pages hosted on your phone). So instead of using a separate Safari session, you multitask a Safari-like HTML ad presentation.
They are an important source of revenue for developers which attracts developers to the platform, helps keep app prices down and even enables dev's to release free apps.
Yes, and again: developers can and do already include ads in their aps. It's not like iAd suddenly ushers in a new era of ad supported content that evil Apple forced on you. It just gives devs a different way to implement them.
Given they again haven't included glanceable information (notifications) on the lock screen, does anyone think that there's a hardware limitation that prevents it from working? Do you need two set of screen layers to achieve it the way other phones seem to do it?
Switcheable, configurable lock-screen notification is still something I really, really think they should do as everyone has to flick their phone multiple times a day just to check for missed calls etc.
Do IT Apple!
No, look at the JB app, LockInfo. Awesome app. One of the large reasons I stayed with my iPhone.
the only thing i see here that's unique is iAd, and it's something i REALLY don't want. Everything else is just apple playing catch-up...
i do see folders being very useful, esp. on the iPad.
lastly, i'd like to know what the limitations on the multitasking are - they were very very short on details there. something's got to give to preserve battery & processor usage...
I think it's pretty clear... there are 7 modes of "multitasking", and different modes will involve different levels of battery drain. I'm sure they will encourage developers through the app review process to use the mode that gets the job done for a specific app and no more. For example, they will probably encourage the vast majority of developers to use rapid app switching rather than full multitasking.
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Was there anything about printing? I think this has to be there.
Nope. But the presentation was not a complete list of every new thing.
Lots of stuff was not mentioned, but Voice Recognition and built-in turn-by-turn navigation come to mind as some of the most glaring omissions. Baked-in search functionality is missing too.
The interface improvements are welcome. The folders thing is long overdue.
But it looked like all the folders icons will be basically the same, with no ability to make them look like, for example, a "Games" folder or a "Documents" folder. Needing to read the caption below the icon in order to distinguish them from one another easily pretty much makes the icon superfluous. I don't get it.
Pretty meh offerings overall. Surprising, given the competitive climate in the cellphone OS space these days.
In pop-up alerts, I'd like to see each app's icon displayed at least in miniature just to the left of the app's name. One's brain could then simultaneously recognize the icon and read the message in the pop-up, which I think would be faster and less tedious than having to check out the name of the app first.
No new hardware? Discouraging...
No, because it was a software event. They announce software at software announcements, the clue is in the title.
Bravo on multi-tasking and folders, though.
Don't get me wrong, I would have loved to hear about the next-gen iPhone today too, but apparently they wanted to stick to iOS 4 with this event. However, a segue into a sneak peek at the new iPhone would have been a great wrap-up to today's event. Perhaps we'll hear something after the iPad 3G ships later this month.
Why? I don't see anything here that those phones didn't already do.
That's what amazed me most. This isn't even coming out for a few months, and already it leaves Android in the lead.
Palm has been dead for months. This will have no affect on Palm one way or the other.
But I expect Google to use this opportunity to pull further ahead by June. And then again in the fall. And again next spring.
Damn. I expected to be wowed, and all I saw was the inclusion of previously-missing basic stuff, some of which not even implemented very well.
iPhone OS is becoming more similar to Android OS...
let us know when all android phones have a decent touch interface. It's ok (on the ones that support it) but sucks in certain apps, like maps. very inconsistent. ick.
let us know when all android phones have a decent touch interface. It's ok (on the ones that support it) but sucks in certain apps, like maps. very inconsistent. ick.
He was talking about the OS. But the response is about hardware.
But WRT hardware, there are both very nice Android phones and low-end Android phones. Expect to see lots and lots of them as time rolls on.
2. They are adding AD support, which might be great for the App vendors, but's really not great for the end users, unless we can disable them.
Many apps already have adverts.
They are an important source of revenue for developers which attracts developers to the platform, helps keep app prices down and even enables dev's to release free apps.
i do see folders being very useful, esp. on the iPad.
lastly, i'd like to know what the limitations on the multitasking are - they were very very short on details there. something's got to give to preserve battery & processor usage...
Many apps already have adverts.
They are an important source of revenue for developers which attracts developers to the platform, helps keep app prices down and even enables dev's to release free apps.
Devs have always been getting revenue from ads, iAd is designed for APPLE to get 40% of the ad revenue.
But it looked like all the folders icons will be basically the same, with no ability to make them look like, for example, a "Games" folder or a "Documents" folder. Needing to read the caption below the icon in order to distinguish them from one another easily pretty much makes the icon superfluous. I don't get it.
Don't know about you, but I leave Apps (and Folders in the future) in the same place all the time. So I automatically know where my Apps are, without needing to read the caption (or icon) for it. So if your "Games" folder is on the first page bottom right, you will know that's where it is always and don't have to read anything. Just tap on it.
Switcheable, configurable lock-screen notification is still something I really, really think they should do as everyone has to flick their phone multiple times a day just to check for missed calls etc.
Do IT Apple!
I'm psyched that Multitasking is coming. iPhone looking better. But now that iPad (4.0 available on the Fall) is out, even more people will rush to get them. All that it would be missing will be a front facing camera for chatting and hopefully the ability to make skype video calls
The multitasking looks good.
It is somewhat surprising that iAds was not included in the multitasking section, given that it is basically a website embedded into an app. The main difference I saw between iAds and the current "change to a website" paradigm is that the main app keeps running while you access the advertising website (I know that a iAd is not a site on the web, but rather, a set of HTML pages hosted on your phone). So instead of using a separate Safari session, you multitask a Safari-like HTML ad presentation.
I hope that it can be turned off.
Many apps already have adverts.
They are an important source of revenue for developers which attracts developers to the platform, helps keep app prices down and even enables dev's to release free apps.
Yes, and again: developers can and do already include ads in their aps. It's not like iAd suddenly ushers in a new era of ad supported content that evil Apple forced on you. It just gives devs a different way to implement them.
the only thing i see here that's unique is iAd, and it's something i REALLY don't want. Everything else is just apple playing catch-up...
Catch-up with who? Have you been drinking?
Given they again haven't included glanceable information (notifications) on the lock screen, does anyone think that there's a hardware limitation that prevents it from working? Do you need two set of screen layers to achieve it the way other phones seem to do it?
Switcheable, configurable lock-screen notification is still something I really, really think they should do as everyone has to flick their phone multiple times a day just to check for missed calls etc.
Do IT Apple!
No, look at the JB app, LockInfo. Awesome app. One of the large reasons I stayed with my iPhone.
the only thing i see here that's unique is iAd, and it's something i REALLY don't want. Everything else is just apple playing catch-up...
i do see folders being very useful, esp. on the iPad.
lastly, i'd like to know what the limitations on the multitasking are - they were very very short on details there. something's got to give to preserve battery & processor usage...
I think it's pretty clear... there are 7 modes of "multitasking", and different modes will involve different levels of battery drain. I'm sure they will encourage developers through the app review process to use the mode that gets the job done for a specific app and no more. For example, they will probably encourage the vast majority of developers to use rapid app switching rather than full multitasking.