How does this work? A week ago, the iPad was a failure because there were still units on the shelf after opening weekend. Obviously, a mere 450,000 within the first week was an embarrassingly, dismal performance. Now, at the start of the second full week, stores are selling out and Apple can't keep up with demand. Clearly, Apple knew it would be a huge success and made a limited run of a half a million when they knew full well they needed three times that number. Apple is manipulating the stock.
WHAT?
By the way, when did a half a million of anything become a limited run? I really need to hear from some haters on this one. Please explain how moving a half million items that have no mass appeal in just over a week can be considered artificially constraining supply. Oh, and how is this a failure? One more thing: will you consider the HP Slate a failure if it does not do this well? Just curious.
How does this work? A week ago, the iPad was a failure because there were still units on the shelf after opening weekend. Obviously, a mere 450,000 within the first week was an embarrassingly, dismal performance. Now, at the start of the second full week, stores are selling out and Apple can't keep up with demand. Clearly, Apple knew it would be a huge success and made a limited run of a half a million when they knew full well they needed three times that number. Apple is manipulating the stock.
WHAT?
By the way, when did a half a million of anything become a limited run? I really need to hear from some haters on this one. Please explain how moving a half million items that have no mass appeal in just over a week can be considered artificially constraining supply. Oh, and how is this a failure? One more thing: will you consider the HP Slate a failure if it does not do this well? Just curious.
Is U.S. 3G iPad going to be different from the European models? If not, I would consider buying one when in NY in 2 weeks ...
It is likely Apple will have legal problems in Europe if they place hardware limitations to restrict the contract to one operator (as has happened with the iPhone, which is currently being sold by all operators in the UK and elsewhere in Europe).
More operators = obviously a lower plan cost and the benefit to consumers.
As far as I know, many Americans who travel a lot like the iPhone because they can use their iPhone abroad, e.g., Canada, in many countries in Europe, Asia, etc. I assume, it would work the other way around. I have not tried it myself, so second hand information. A friend of mine does it (Philippines/Canada/US).
However, there are a number of additional radio frequencies released in the US that have been released purposely for use by mobile devices. Google, Verizon bought a lot of them.
I read somewhere also that the iPad released in the US is optimized to a certain bandwidth frequency for the WiFi.
In another story, one Israeli noted that his iPads were confiscated when he reached the custom in Israel. There are radio frequencies in the US iPad that is not allowed in Israel..
I am not sure therefore if the iPad is also optimized for each country or region (e.g., EU countries) -- and whether this optimization is through the hardware or software. If I am not mistaken, while the electricity standard in the US and Europe may be the same, if I read correctly, there is a slight difference in the "cycling" or something. I am not sure whether this very slight variation has any effect when charging devices like the iPhone.
To be safe: You may want to do internet search if the frequencies used in the US are the same. I doubt if all the Genius bar staff may know this much detail.
As far as I know, many Americans who travel a lot like the iPhone because they can use their iPhone abroad, e.g., Canada, in many countries in Europe, Asia, etc. I assume, it would work the other way around. I have not tried it myself, so second hand information. A friend of mine does it (Philippines/Canada/US).
However, there are a number of additional radio frequencies released in the US that have been released purposely for use by mobile devices. Google, Verizon bought a lot of them.
I read somewhere also that the iPad released in the US is optimized to a certain bandwidth frequency for the WiFi.
In another story, one Israeli noted that his iPads were confiscated when he reached the custom in Israel. There are radio frequencies in the US iPad that is not allowed in Israel..
I am not sure therefore if the iPad is also optimized for each country or region (e.g., EU countries) -- and whether this optimization is through the hardware or software. If I am not mistaken, while the electricity standard in the US and Europe may be the same, if I read correctly, there is a slight difference in the "cycling" or something. I am not sure whether this very slight variation has any effect when charging devices like the iPhone.
To be safe: You may want to do internet search if the frequencies used in the US are the same. I doubt if all the Genius bar staff may know this much detail.
CGC.
I heard from a friend in Russia that 3G mobile bands were used by the military, so they were quicker to adopt Wimax and other technologies there. It may be the case in Israel too.
Otherwise, in the European Union, '3G' basically denotes UMTS. I have no idea whether the American '3G' is in fact UMTS or a similar (CDMA2000) or another standard.
I heard from a friend in Russia that 3G mobile bands were used by the military, so they were quicker to adopt Wimax and other technologies there. It may be the case in Israel too.
Otherwise, in the European Union, '3G' basically denotes UMTS. I have no idea whether the American '3G' is in fact UMTS or a similar (CDMA2000) or another standard.
1) Isreal's issue with the iPad is in regards to WiFi, not 3G which isn't even shipping yet. Specifically it's the broadcast power levels of the WiFi. Here is the original article explaining the ban.
2) Since the iPhone is sold in Russia and Isreal the radios in the iPhone must work on their networks so I am not sure what 3G bands you are referring to. There are 14 UMTS-FDD bands, Apple (like most 3GSM vendors uses the 3 main ones.
People, Apple is not "gouging" international customers. That is to say, they are not pricing Apple hardware to make extra profit overseas.
Take the Apple price. Add VAT, import duties or whatever else exist in your country. Add a reasonable cushion for currency fluctuation, so that in the case of devaluation of the dollar compared to thhe relevant foreign currency, Apple doesn't have to reprice (potentially costing the company a significant amount and annoying customers as well).
There you go. That's the price you pay. Not a dollar more.
Lets see. Out of 6 billion people in the world 325 million get to be first in line.
How do you figure that you (UK'rs) are any more displaced that the rest of us?
I guess getting iPads earlier is also an outcome of having a super oiled delivery channel from the place where it's being made. I mean if we get everything from a toothbrush to parts of the SFO bridge from China, an iPad is an easy thing to add to the shipment.
People, Apple is not "gouging" international customers. That is to say, they are not pricing Apple hardware to make extra profit overseas.
Take the Apple price. Add VAT, import duties or whatever else exist in your country. Add a reasonable cushion for currency fluctuation, so that in the case of devaluation of the dollar compared to thhe relevant foreign currency, Apple doesn't have to reprice (potentially costing the company a significant amount and annoying customers as well).
There you go. That's the price you pay. Not a dollar more.
1) Isreal's issue with the iPad is in regards to WiFi, not 3G which isn't even shipping yet. Specifically it's the broadcast power levels of the WiFi. Here is the original article explaining the ban.
2) Since the iPhone is sold in Russia and Isreal the radios in the iPhone must work on their networks so I am not sure what 3G bands you are referring to. There are 14 UMTS-FDD bands, Apple (like most 3GSM vendors uses the 3 main ones.
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WHAT?
By the way, when did a half a million of anything become a limited run? I really need to hear from some haters on this one. Please explain how moving a half million items that have no mass appeal in just over a week can be considered artificially constraining supply. Oh, and how is this a failure? One more thing: will you consider the HP Slate a failure if it does not do this well? Just curious.
How does this work? A week ago, the iPad was a failure because there were still units on the shelf after opening weekend. Obviously, a mere 450,000 within the first week was an embarrassingly, dismal performance. Now, at the start of the second full week, stores are selling out and Apple can't keep up with demand. Clearly, Apple knew it would be a huge success and made a limited run of a half a million when they knew full well they needed three times that number. Apple is manipulating the stock.
WHAT?
By the way, when did a half a million of anything become a limited run? I really need to hear from some haters on this one. Please explain how moving a half million items that have no mass appeal in just over a week can be considered artificially constraining supply. Oh, and how is this a failure? One more thing: will you consider the HP Slate a failure if it does not do this well? Just curious.
When it's Apple, not enough, Apple is doomed.
CGC
Is U.S. 3G iPad going to be different from the European models? If not, I would consider buying one when in NY in 2 weeks ...
It is likely Apple will have legal problems in Europe if they place hardware limitations to restrict the contract to one operator (as has happened with the iPhone, which is currently being sold by all operators in the UK and elsewhere in Europe).
More operators = obviously a lower plan cost and the benefit to consumers.
As far as I know, many Americans who travel a lot like the iPhone because they can use their iPhone abroad, e.g., Canada, in many countries in Europe, Asia, etc. I assume, it would work the other way around. I have not tried it myself, so second hand information. A friend of mine does it (Philippines/Canada/US).
However, there are a number of additional radio frequencies released in the US that have been released purposely for use by mobile devices. Google, Verizon bought a lot of them.
I read somewhere also that the iPad released in the US is optimized to a certain bandwidth frequency for the WiFi.
In another story, one Israeli noted that his iPads were confiscated when he reached the custom in Israel. There are radio frequencies in the US iPad that is not allowed in Israel..
I am not sure therefore if the iPad is also optimized for each country or region (e.g., EU countries) -- and whether this optimization is through the hardware or software. If I am not mistaken, while the electricity standard in the US and Europe may be the same, if I read correctly, there is a slight difference in the "cycling" or something. I am not sure whether this very slight variation has any effect when charging devices like the iPhone.
To be safe: You may want to do internet search if the frequencies used in the US are the same. I doubt if all the Genius bar staff may know this much detail.
CGC.
It all depends on which side of Wustah you were brought up in. Trust me.
Or whether you were brought up at all. Trust me.
Geez. I leave the Boston area for a few years and Wustah gets all gentrified?
What's next? The Red Sox win a World Series?
As far as I know, many Americans who travel a lot like the iPhone because they can use their iPhone abroad, e.g., Canada, in many countries in Europe, Asia, etc. I assume, it would work the other way around. I have not tried it myself, so second hand information. A friend of mine does it (Philippines/Canada/US).
However, there are a number of additional radio frequencies released in the US that have been released purposely for use by mobile devices. Google, Verizon bought a lot of them.
I read somewhere also that the iPad released in the US is optimized to a certain bandwidth frequency for the WiFi.
In another story, one Israeli noted that his iPads were confiscated when he reached the custom in Israel. There are radio frequencies in the US iPad that is not allowed in Israel..
I am not sure therefore if the iPad is also optimized for each country or region (e.g., EU countries) -- and whether this optimization is through the hardware or software. If I am not mistaken, while the electricity standard in the US and Europe may be the same, if I read correctly, there is a slight difference in the "cycling" or something. I am not sure whether this very slight variation has any effect when charging devices like the iPhone.
To be safe: You may want to do internet search if the frequencies used in the US are the same. I doubt if all the Genius bar staff may know this much detail.
CGC.
I heard from a friend in Russia that 3G mobile bands were used by the military, so they were quicker to adopt Wimax and other technologies there. It may be the case in Israel too.
Otherwise, in the European Union, '3G' basically denotes UMTS. I have no idea whether the American '3G' is in fact UMTS or a similar (CDMA2000) or another standard.
C'mon, Steve, split the stock.
Thanks!
Why, what is the point?
I heard from a friend in Russia that 3G mobile bands were used by the military, so they were quicker to adopt Wimax and other technologies there. It may be the case in Israel too.
Otherwise, in the European Union, '3G' basically denotes UMTS. I have no idea whether the American '3G' is in fact UMTS or a similar (CDMA2000) or another standard.
1) Isreal's issue with the iPad is in regards to WiFi, not 3G which isn't even shipping yet. Specifically it's the broadcast power levels of the WiFi. Here is the original article explaining the ban.2) Since the iPhone is sold in Russia and Isreal the radios in the iPhone must work on their networks so I am not sure what 3G bands you are referring to. There are 14 UMTS-FDD bands, Apple (like most 3GSM vendors uses the 3 main ones.
I'm about to cry right now!
Damn!
I'm pissed!
It almost feel like I was run over by a flock of bulls!
There is nothing to believe in anymore!
There is nothing to believe in anymore!
I believe I'll have another beer!
I believe I'll have another beer!
That reminds me of comedian Jim Jeffries' reason why we drink. I can't seem to find a clip of that anymore.
anyone coming from the US to Hong Kong these days?? at this rate the iPad will never be available here...
This thread is suffering from a severe lack of quality trolling. Where are they now? I want to hear how they explain this news away.
please don't say that! it's like a breath of fresh air in here... wind the windows up before we drive past the sewage farm!
Take the Apple price. Add VAT, import duties or whatever else exist in your country. Add a reasonable cushion for currency fluctuation, so that in the case of devaluation of the dollar compared to thhe relevant foreign currency, Apple doesn't have to reprice (potentially costing the company a significant amount and annoying customers as well).
There you go. That's the price you pay. Not a dollar more.
Thanks for the heads up. After a week in Oakham, I had a hard time pronouncing Worcester, let alone spell it.
Boston? Been there and a couple of dozen stores from London to Beijing to my wife's chagrin.
Make that three dozen. And more to soon come.
The problem with Boston is that you can't tell if someone's saying iPad or iPod.
"I gat me one a them new Apple gedjits, yeh know, the iPad?"
"Is it an iPad Touch or an iPad Classic?"
"No, I said iPaaad."
"That's what I said. I got a iPad Touch a couple yease ago."
"iPaad! Yeh moran!"
Lets see. Out of 6 billion people in the world 325 million get to be first in line.
How do you figure that you (UK'rs) are any more displaced that the rest of us?
I guess getting iPads earlier is also an outcome of having a super oiled delivery channel from the place where it's being made. I mean if we get everything from a toothbrush to parts of the SFO bridge from China, an iPad is an easy thing to add to the shipment.
People, Apple is not "gouging" international customers. That is to say, they are not pricing Apple hardware to make extra profit overseas.
Take the Apple price. Add VAT, import duties or whatever else exist in your country. Add a reasonable cushion for currency fluctuation, so that in the case of devaluation of the dollar compared to thhe relevant foreign currency, Apple doesn't have to reprice (potentially costing the company a significant amount and annoying customers as well).
There you go. That's the price you pay. Not a dollar more.
Not sure sure about that.
Look at this blogpost :
http://moore207.com/blog/?p=452
Not sure sure about that.
Look at this blogpost :
http://moore207.com/blog/?p=452
The bloggers comment about these items being available cheaper on the black market tends to support Tonton's point.
Black marketeers tend to not pay attention to things like tariffs and taxes.
That reminds me of comedian Jim Jeffries' reason why we drink. I can't seem to find a clip of that anymore.
Find it and I'll send you a complimentary frappe and hoagie to go with it.
1) Isreal's issue with the iPad is in regards to WiFi, not 3G which isn't even shipping yet. Specifically it's the broadcast power levels of the WiFi. Here is the original article explaining the ban.2) Since the iPhone is sold in Russia and Isreal the radios in the iPhone must work on their networks so I am not sure what 3G bands you are referring to. There are 14 UMTS-FDD bands, Apple (like most 3GSM vendors uses the 3 main ones.
I guess that explains it all:
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/30011.php
From what I hear, 'some' 3G bands are still closed in Russia, depending on a region.