Violence in Israel/Palestine

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  • Reply 302 of 761
    outsideroutsider Posts: 6,008member
    Hmm that was interesting numbers.



    And New, are you related to little cuss? If not, you guys should really stop masturbating each other because it's very transparent. You're usually pretty rational but when you stick up for this little prick it invalidates anything you say.
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  • Reply 303 of 761
    andersanders Posts: 6,523member
    What so interesting about them :confused:



    Anyway those numbers have nothing to do with the case of the argument. News numbers were about the populataion up to 1946 and of British Palestine. Our own little Milosevic numbers were from 1948 and onwards and only about Israel. And his argument about not trusting News numbers could be used against him much stronger. The HP he links to is a gov.il. Why should I trust official Israeli numbers when you don´t trust a Jewish historian?
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  • Reply 304 of 761
    outsideroutsider Posts: 6,008member
    What's NOT interesting about them?



    I just thought they were interesting because I thought they were interesting. I think quantum physics is interesting too. And navel lint. And why'd you bring Milosevec into the conversation? little cuss is just a troll, he's not that bad to be compared to a guy like that.
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  • Reply 305 of 761
    outsideroutsider Posts: 6,008member
    Why should I trust official Israeli numbers when you don´t trust a Jewish historian?



    I never said I didn't trust the Jewish historian.
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  • Reply 306 of 761
    andersanders Posts: 6,523member
    Heh. Little Cuss is a troll but he is my troll (as on my side of the argument. Not as he is me). Its PC^KILLA that is a Milosevic (as believing in ethnic cleansing).



    And the same goes for not believing Jewish historians. Its PC^KILLA that doesn´t do that.
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  • Reply 307 of 761
    newnew Posts: 3,244member
    [quote]If not, you guys should really stop masturbating each other because it's very transparent.<hr></blockquote>



    Jealous?



    I'm trying to figure out these numbers. I think I can accept the israeli cbs as a source, but as Anders stated these number seem to not show the whole picture, so please give me some time to examine the site...



    This is what I found so far:

    [quote]9.\tThe growth of the Muslim and Druze populations stems almost uniquely from natural increase.<hr></blockquote>

    Bummer!



    Who were those arab countries who were more friendly to Israel than Egypt?
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  • Reply 308 of 761
    outsideroutsider Posts: 6,008member
    Who were those arab countries who were more friendly to Israel than Egypt?



    I think Jordan is. And Turkey. Perhaps even the new Afghanistan. I'm not sure though. You'd think Kuwait would be since Israels biggest enemy tried invading that once, but 'enemy of my enemy is my friend' may not apply in this case. By this logic Iran would be a huge Israel booster!
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  • Reply 309 of 761
    newnew Posts: 3,244member
    Turky, Afghanistan and even Iran are not Arab nations...



    Another clipping from the gbs site:

    [quote] The census covered the population living within the borders of the State of

    Israel, and the population living in Jewish settlements in the Administered Areas (the

    West Bank and the Gaza Strip). <hr></blockquote>
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  • Reply 310 of 761
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    p.s. to libby hippy New: Curlylocks the diamond merchant isn't WAY out of line until i say he is. the poor sob is constipated with hate... and i'm here to help unclog him.



    The little guy set his bitch straight fairly quickly. You got to give him credit for that.



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    And the same goes for not believing Jewish historians.



    Your historian gave you some references? How?s the homework going New?



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    Its PC^KILLA that is a Milosevic (as believing in ethnic cleansing).



    Heheh. We covered that one already. We know what your sides plan for the Jewish population in Judea Samaria and Gaza call for.





    mika.
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  • Reply 311 of 761
    Who were those arab countries who were more friendly to Israel than Egypt?



    I'll give ya a hint. It involves a Mossad listening post in a strategic location.





    mika.
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  • Reply 312 of 761
    newnew Posts: 3,244member
    [quote]How?s the homework going New? <hr></blockquote>

    To tell you the truth, I'm using my time right now to stude the Israeli statistics site you posted... Like Anders observed your table doesn't show anything but the population inside israels borders, and after 1948. So nothing in it actually falsifies my numbers...



    Here's something I found on the Statistics site (my highlight):







    Why is it that the imigration to the settlements on the West Bank and Gaza increased during the last three years? Isn't this a clear breach of the peace agreements signed by Israel? Can this be related to the palestinian uprising?



    [ 04-03-2002: Message edited by: New ]</p>
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  • Reply 313 of 761
    As a side note:



    You do realize that during the Roman war on Judea you had Jews (Josephus sound familiar) that fought along the Romans. Does that mean that the Roman cause more just or moral? To try to cloak your argument with an aura of respectability by using references from Jewish persons or persons who might have Jewish ancestry does not make you or your arguments any more credible. So you can stop with that nonsense.





    mika.
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  • Reply 314 of 761
    newnew Posts: 3,244member
    I'm just trying to show that you don't speak for all jews (or all israeli jews, for that matter). I also don't want to use sources that you can just brush aside as propaganda...



    [ 04-03-2002: Message edited by: New ]</p>
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    Why is it that the imigration to the settlements on the West Bank and Gaza increased during the last three years? Isn't this a clear breach of the peace agreements signed by Israel?



    No. It is not.





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    Can this be related to the palestinian uprising?



    Clutching at straws again.





    mika.



    P.S. I could point to examples where the Arabs broke that agreement from day one.



    [ 04-03-2002: Message edited by: PC^KILLA ]</p>
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  • Reply 316 of 761
    [quote]Originally posted by New:

    <strong>I'm just rying to show that you don't speak for all jews (or all israeli jews, for that matter). ...</strong><hr></blockquote>





    I think that's pretty obvious. And most people here, I think, are quite aware of the pluralism of opinion among Jews - in or outside Israel. We don?t need you to point that out to us. Sticks to task you?ve been given.





    mika.



    [ 04-03-2002: Message edited by: PC^KILLA ]</p>
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  • Reply 317 of 761
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    The HP he links to is a gov.il. Why should I trust official Israeli numbers..





    :eek: b/c the whole economy depends on the numbers being accurate.





    mika.
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  • Reply 318 of 761
    newnew Posts: 3,244member
    [quote] Sticks to task you?ve been given. <hr></blockquote>

    Given? by you? watch that language...
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  • Reply 319 of 761
    newnew Posts: 3,244member
    btw, You still havn't shown that my numbers are wrong...
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  • Reply 320 of 761
    [quote]Originally posted by New:

    <strong>btw, You still havn't shown that my numbers are wrong...</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Are you going to renege on our agreement now? Cause if you?re not, it sure sounds like you might.



    mika.
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