The 4th Generation iPhone. Beauty or Beast?

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  • Reply 41 of 55
    dhkostadhkosta Posts: 150member
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    As I understand it, the back looks like glass. But could just as easily be a ceramic. The important issue is that it is not opaque to microwaves.



    I think a glass/ceramic back would certainly be more durable than what we have at present.

    The 3G(s) has a plastic back that will scratch on anything harder than plastic.



    C.



    Yeah, but cracking and shattering are much worse than scratching. Glass is very hard, but also quite brittle. It'd be great if it was ceramic. They make ceramic GLOCKS.
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  • Reply 42 of 55
    dhkostadhkosta Posts: 150member
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    A better screen generally means higher power consumption.



    Yeah, I was really hoping for OLED this time around. I'm a little sad that it doesn't look like that's going to happen, but it won't keep me from buying.
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  • Reply 43 of 55
    pheydpheyd Posts: 4member
    From DIGITIMES:



    Largan Precision and Asia Optical have obtained certification for 5-megapixel and 300,000-pixel optical lens kits, respectively, for use in iPhone 4G and will begin shipments soon, according to industry sources in Taiwan.
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  • Reply 44 of 55
    lemon bon bon.lemon bon bon. Posts: 2,173member
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    From DIGITIMES:



    Largan Precision and Asia Optical have obtained certification for 5-megapixel and 300,000-pixel optical lens kits, respectively, for use in iPhone 4G and will begin shipments soon, according to industry sources in Taiwan.



    Beauty and I'm getting one.



    Lemon Bon Bon.
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  • Reply 45 of 55
    programmerprogrammer Posts: 3,503member
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    The only thing about the new iPhone that would concern me is the battery life. A better screen generally means higher power consumption.



    Most of the power used by an LCD goes into the backlight, and that is a function of display size... not resolution. Given that this display is apparently smaller and higher rez, battery life should be about the same, if not better. With the more advanced processor and circuitry, I would expect that (when doing exactly the same tasks) the device's battery life will be improved. Of course, if you're multitasking a dozen apps at once and watching video or playing the new games for it all the time then you are going to shorten your battery run time.
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  • Reply 46 of 55
    welshdogwelshdog Posts: 1,929member
    Speaking of the 4G iPhone did you see this: ubreakifix



    If this is correct I have to wonder if Apple is still going to sell them parts?
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  • Reply 47 of 55
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 13,377member
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    Does anyone have any solid inside information on whether AT&T will be carrying the new iPhone? After some poor experiences with other smartphones, I'll finally make the conversion to iPhone in June. Of course, I won't be if Verizon becomes the only provider. I can't stand Verizon. I think Apple would be making a huge mistake by teaming up with them.



    This somewhat reflects my experiences, AT&T has actually been a better experience for me than my previous experience with Verizon. Reception is as good or better than Verizon around here and they are no where near as bothersome with marketing and other crap.



    In any event you don't need to worry Apple will likely expand partners to sell more phones instead of switching to exclusive deals. What I'd really like to see Apple do is to offer truly unlocked iPhones for those that travel a lot. It is the one and only thing about locked phones that bother me.

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    The only thing about the new iPhone that would concern me is the battery life. A better screen generally means higher power consumption.



    Well yes and no. Given a set of technologies higher pixel densities require high brightness back lights. In effect you need a brighter bulb to push light through the tiny pixels. However that is based on similar LCD technologies. The rumor is the new screen uses an entirely different approach to the LCD. On top of that the quantum efficiency of the LED's used in back lighting is increasing everyday. So the power for a given amount of back lighting is going down not up.



    Likewise we don't know exactly what Apple will be using for a battery. It looks like they did some interesting engineering to optimize battery power given a volume allowed for the iPhone. So again we could see some really impressive run times.



    Mid you all of this is combined with the the new tech going into A4. It is very possible that the CPU could be at once more powerful than the one in the 3GS and at the same time very power thrifty. More so if the processor is clock at a lower speed than the one in the iPad.



    Lets just say I'm optimistic with respect to battery life. I'm actually thinking about getting one but then IPad has been calling me. Its a tough call but having that power in your pocket is very compelling.



    Dave
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  • Reply 48 of 55
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 13,377member
    There is a tremendous amount of research going on into LED's, especially the so called "white" light LED's. Much of this due to initiatives to get rid of the incandescent lamp. In many cases this research is directly applicable to back light LEDs which are often "white" light LEDs.



    As to white light LED's there really is no such thing as LEDs pretty much operate in a narrow spectral band. What the white light LED's often do is to stimulate a phosphorus that then reemits in a broad spectrum giving us the so called white light LED. Another approach is to use three LEDs to supply the primary colors which the eyes then interpret as white light.



    In any event I just wanted to highlight that LEDs for back lighting are evolving rapidly. The required power for a given level of illumination is going lower constantly. So when it comes to any new screen on the iPhone you really can't say ahead of time if it will require more power or not. You really need to wait and see.
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  • Reply 49 of 55
    I can't wait to 'have' her...



    Lemon Bon Bon.
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  • Reply 50 of 55
    The images of the iphone are really nice, I like them.You have given the general shape and features, this will really help people to know easily about the iphone.
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  • Reply 51 of 55
    shubiduashubidua Posts: 157member
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    Yeah, but cracking and shattering are much worse than scratching. Glass is very hard, but also quite brittle. It'd be great if it was ceramic. They make ceramic GLOCKS.



    FYI, glass is a kind of ceramic.



    Edit: apparently it is not cristall-clear, so depending on the definition glass is in the ceramics groups or not. It shares the main characteristics, which is what we are interested in here
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  • Reply 52 of 55
    carniphagecarniphage Posts: 1,984member
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    Yeah, but cracking and shattering are much worse than scratching. Glass is very hard, but also quite brittle. It'd be great if it was ceramic. They make ceramic GLOCKS.



    If Apple were clever, they would prevent shattering by embedding shock absorbing rubber into special gaps in the case.



    C.
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  • Reply 53 of 55
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 13,377member
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    If Apple were clever, they would prevent shattering by embedding shock absorbing rubber into special gaps in the case.



    C.



    The military is working on implementing a new generation of bullet proof windows with 'transparent Aluminum" laminates. The material does have to be backed up with LEXAN but for iPad and cell phones it might be useful alone.



    In any event what is needed is a tough material that can take abuse. As far as scratches go there is nothing that I know about that truly resists scratching. Some materials have a limited ability to mask scratches but everything scratches in some manor or another.





    Dave
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  • Reply 54 of 55
    nvidia2008nvidia2008 Posts: 9,262member
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    If Apple were clever, they would prevent shattering by embedding shock absorbing rubber into special gaps in the case.



    C.



    There needs to be a special thread and support groups in various cities for How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Seams (in the new iPhone)
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  • Reply 55 of 55
    stevegmustevegmu Posts: 539member
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    If Apple were clever, they would prevent shattering by embedding shock absorbing rubber into special gaps in the case.



    C.



    I don't think shattering will be a problem with this new glass. According to Apple, it is almost as tough as sapphire crystal, which is essentially shatterproof. I've worn watches with sapphire crystal through obstacle courses, banged them up , mistreated them, and only once scratched one on concertina wire.
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