I have one question to this. If it's sold in Japan, where are the web links to the product? Any 'faux' iPhone should have a plethora of links on the web so that you can buy the product.
I considered the prototype theory. ... but I don't think it is.
This does not look a prototype compnent.
This image came from China. Would chinese manufacturers have access to a prototype?
This is a production part.
C.
I think what they are actually saying is that the body is not necessarily an Apple "prototype", but some sort of "generic" type body Apple has used (probably purchased) to simply mock-up their technology.
The micro sim slot is not for memory expansion it is for the new micro sim that is debuting on the iPad wifi + 3g. It is for cellular data, not memory expansion.
Why would it be using a micro SIM, when the image of the insides clearly shows a plastic area the size of a normal SIM card inside the sim slot?
Even if it were real, it is obviously no more than a prototype, so it doesn't actually tell us what the next iPhone will have, only what, at some point in time, Apple was experimenting with.
The iPad gets around it by having an Apple shaped logo-hole to squirt its Wifi into the world.
This is not a good design for a phone. It needs a large antenna window. And the innovation in this device is a glassy ceramic back that creates a large radio-transparent window for optimal reception.
The new design is a slab of aluminum sandwiched between two slices of black glass.
What's not to like?
C.
whats not like? the disgusting mess that is the buttons, and seams. Again, this may be close to real thing, but its not the real thing.
Even if it were real, it is obviously no more than a prototype, so it doesn't actually tell us what the next iPhone will have, only what, at some point in time, Apple was experimenting with.
Very true. Then at the least, it can give us a possible glimpse into what Apple was considering/has decided on, for the next gen. That of course assumes that it even a legit Apple prototype.
There was another photo from Wei...something site showing the internals of the prototype. The photo shows the metalic internal layer from the backside where the ceramic back sits on top. Now the metalic part has the Apple's logo cutout and I believe this is where the LED flash will eminate from. If you look at the actual logo on the black ceramic backing, notice it's slightly faded to let the light out.
Edit: Nevermind my post. It seem someone posted a closeup where the LED flash is...
You folks are so gullible. Use a little common sense. How come there's only one rear shot? If you want to prove that the device is genuine, you'd want to show a lot more detailed shots of the Apple markings on the rear. But no, only one shot and at a pretty simple perspecitve. i.e. simple as in easy to 'shop. No oblique rear shots. And even the side shots are positioned so as not to show the rear panel.
Then look at the lone rear shot. There's something fishy about the perspective on the text and markings there. I'm not sure the vanishing point for the vertical lines intersect with the vanishing point of the device's edges. Also, given the perspective, is there enough compression on the vertical dimension?
Finally, here's the coup de grace, download the photo then blow it up to about 600% or more then look at the area around the text. You will notice a distinct difference in the pixelation of the black regions around the white text. It's different from the rest of the device's back panel. I've seen that type of pixelation before, that's cut and paste then clone tool on the black to blend the patch in.
Addendum:
Okay, now there's a second shot from Carniphage above. Better job done on the perspective. But blow it up again and look at the pixelation around the white text and compare it to the rest of the back panel. See the marked difference?
These photos are of a DIFFERENT device than the one pictured by ApplInsider: They have screw holes adjacent to the 30 pin connector. The Appleinsider pics (with the exception of the last one) are of a device with no screws in the bottom.
Where did AI get their pics? Seemingly, something is very fishy here.
The iPad gets around it by having an Apple shaped logo-hole to squirt its Wifi into the world.
This is not a good design for a phone. It needs a large antenna window. And the innovation in this device is a glassy ceramic back that creates a large radio-transparent window for optimal reception.
The new design is a slab of aluminum sandwiched between two slices of black glass.
What's not to like?
C.
It's more than opaque! Otherwise I would be cooked alive standing next to our 60kW microwave CVD reactor.
These photos are of a DIFFERENT device than the one pictured by ApplInsider: They have screw holes adjacent to the 30 pin connector. The Appleinsider pics (with the exception of the last one) are of a device with no screws in the bottom.
Where did AI get their pics? Seemingly, something is very fishy here.
I think Gizmodo explained that the pics at WeiPhone were thought to be pics of a different unit, possibly from earlier in the prototyping stage. They said they believed both units were likely hand built prototypes and so would have slight differences in construction. I think the similarities of the two devices, even if the one Giz has is more polished than the pics AI posted, speaks to the authenticity of both.
These photos are of a DIFFERENT device than the one pictured by ApplInsider: They have screw holes adjacent to the 30 pin connector. The Appleinsider pics (with the exception of the last one) are of a device with no screws in the bottom.
Where did AI get their pics? Seemingly, something is very fishy here.
There were two devices shown.
This is the Engaget/Gizmodo device. Found lost in a bar in San Jose.
These matched a similar mystery device posted on Twitpic from 2 months ago.
The Twitpic device was slightly different. No Apple Logo. A Prototype marking - and no screws.
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Adobe? What is Adobe?
It's a historic building on Moffett Boulevard in Mountain View, CA. But that's not important right now...
"Instead, multiple sources have confirmed that the unit was actually a fake iPhone device that is supposedly available to buy over in Japan."
http://www.product-reviews.net/2010/...terfeit-model/
"New iPhone 4G Spy Photos surface and are fake"
http://iphone.appmobilize.com/mobile...e-and-are-fake
"IPhoneWorld.ca: (Fake) iPhone 4G ?prorotype? found"
http://technews.am/conversations/iph...novophone_is_r
I have one question to this. If it's sold in Japan, where are the web links to the product? Any 'faux' iPhone should have a plethora of links on the web so that you can buy the product.
I considered the prototype theory. ... but I don't think it is.
This does not look a prototype compnent.
This image came from China. Would chinese manufacturers have access to a prototype?
This is a production part.
C.
I think what they are actually saying is that the body is not necessarily an Apple "prototype", but some sort of "generic" type body Apple has used (probably purchased) to simply mock-up their technology.
For my part... I think the whole thing is bogus.
"Found on a bar floor"... Yeah, right...
Two cameras? Welcome to 2009, Apple.
You and your Android/RIM pals are going to be on the run soon, buddy!
Right now, I'll bet this carefully-designed 'faux-pas' is causing major heartburn to Apple's competitors.
Funny, people said exactly the same thing about the "plastic" 3G phone.
C.
I must confess; I was one of those at that time.
The micro sim slot is not for memory expansion it is for the new micro sim that is debuting on the iPad wifi + 3g. It is for cellular data, not memory expansion.
Why would it be using a micro SIM, when the image of the insides clearly shows a plastic area the size of a normal SIM card inside the sim slot?
Aluminum is opaque to microwaves.
The iPad gets around it by having an Apple shaped logo-hole to squirt its Wifi into the world.
This is not a good design for a phone. It needs a large antenna window. And the innovation in this device is a glassy ceramic back that creates a large radio-transparent window for optimal reception.
The new design is a slab of aluminum sandwiched between two slices of black glass.
What's not to like?
C.
whats not like? the disgusting mess that is the buttons, and seams. Again, this may be close to real thing, but its not the real thing.
Even if it were real, it is obviously no more than a prototype, so it doesn't actually tell us what the next iPhone will have, only what, at some point in time, Apple was experimenting with.
Very true. Then at the least, it can give us a possible glimpse into what Apple was considering/has decided on, for the next gen. That of course assumes that it even a legit Apple prototype.
You and your Android/RIM pals are going to be on the run soon, buddy!
Right now, I'll bet this carefully-designed 'faux-pas' is causing major heartburn to Apple's competitors.
Or a potential intelligence coup. All depends on if it is real and/or if it actually came from with Apple, intentionally or accidently.
Edit: Nevermind my post. It seem someone posted a closeup where the LED flash is...
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Then look at the lone rear shot. There's something fishy about the perspective on the text and markings there. I'm not sure the vanishing point for the vertical lines intersect with the vanishing point of the device's edges. Also, given the perspective, is there enough compression on the vertical dimension?
Finally, here's the coup de grace, download the photo then blow it up to about 600% or more then look at the area around the text. You will notice a distinct difference in the pixelation of the black regions around the white text. It's different from the rest of the device's back panel. I've seen that type of pixelation before, that's cut and paste then clone tool on the black to blend the patch in.
Addendum:
Okay, now there's a second shot from Carniphage above. Better job done on the perspective. But blow it up again and look at the pixelation around the white text and compare it to the rest of the back panel. See the marked difference?
And it's bloody gorgeous!
Very nice now that it is cleaned up.
And it's bloody gorgeous!
These photos are of a DIFFERENT device than the one pictured by ApplInsider: They have screw holes adjacent to the 30 pin connector. The Appleinsider pics (with the exception of the last one) are of a device with no screws in the bottom.
Where did AI get their pics? Seemingly, something is very fishy here.
Aluminum is opaque to microwaves.
The iPad gets around it by having an Apple shaped logo-hole to squirt its Wifi into the world.
This is not a good design for a phone. It needs a large antenna window. And the innovation in this device is a glassy ceramic back that creates a large radio-transparent window for optimal reception.
The new design is a slab of aluminum sandwiched between two slices of black glass.
What's not to like?
C.
It's more than opaque! Otherwise I would be cooked alive standing next to our 60kW microwave CVD reactor.
These photos are of a DIFFERENT device than the one pictured by ApplInsider: They have screw holes adjacent to the 30 pin connector. The Appleinsider pics (with the exception of the last one) are of a device with no screws in the bottom.
Where did AI get their pics? Seemingly, something is very fishy here.
I think Gizmodo explained that the pics at WeiPhone were thought to be pics of a different unit, possibly from earlier in the prototyping stage. They said they believed both units were likely hand built prototypes and so would have slight differences in construction. I think the similarities of the two devices, even if the one Giz has is more polished than the pics AI posted, speaks to the authenticity of both.
If you are looking at the density of glass it is ca. 2x that of plastic.
Worse for zirconia: zirconia has a density ca. 5x that of plastic.
The plastic parts for mobile phones are really thin, I don't think you can make a glass or a zirconia part that thin -> which ads more to the weight.
And don't get me started on the price of glass or zirconia.
I don't want to dismiss the possibility of glass or zirconia but there are a few open question that hopefully will be answered by Apple in June.
These photos are of a DIFFERENT device than the one pictured by ApplInsider: They have screw holes adjacent to the 30 pin connector. The Appleinsider pics (with the exception of the last one) are of a device with no screws in the bottom.
Where did AI get their pics? Seemingly, something is very fishy here.
There were two devices shown.
This is the Engaget/Gizmodo device. Found lost in a bar in San Jose.
These matched a similar mystery device posted on Twitpic from 2 months ago.
The Twitpic device was slightly different. No Apple Logo. A Prototype marking - and no screws.
C.