They are cowards for being duped into going on such a suicide mission. They are cowards for not trying harder to find "another way" to achieve any worthy goals they might have aimed for.
Most of the time you see militant terrorists behind masks and identity obscuring bandanas. Why do you think they wear those?
I watched it and was impressed with the work Jules and Gedeon Naudet did. They really became close to the firemen they were documenting so they were able to follow them anywhere. Some scenes were almost sureal. Like this scene with the rookie and the WTC behind them...the night before the attacks. sorry if the image is blocked
Another scene that was unsetttling to watch were the faces of the firemen within the lobby...truly scared and almost helpless. The chaplin muttering prayers (he was later killed by falling debri). I didn't know that human bodies landed with such violent force as that...
And the collapse of the towers were terrifying. After the first tower collapsed and they were trying to find a safe way out...I still can't believe that it didn't cross their minds that those fully fueled planes would cause a structural melt down and collapse...
Only thing that bothered me was De Niro's narraration...you could tell he was reading a teleprompter. But I guess he's not experienced with this? I know he cares and all, being a New York native. He has his film center and restaurants near there too.
I hope this documentary will be released to schools and worldwide. Every human should see this, get an understanding that this is how it happened and how evil this act was.
Now we're back to the terrorist not being corwards. Where's the Eurotrash to tell us we "asked for it" too 6 months later will the Palestinians cheer in the streets again
<strong>Now we're back to the terrorist not being corwards. Where's the Eurotrash to tell us we "asked for it" too 6 months later will the Palestinians cheer in the streets again </strong><hr></blockquote>
That's not worth a comment <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
<strong>Now we're back to the terrorist not being corwards. Where's the Eurotrash to tell us we "asked for it" too 6 months later will the Palestinians cheer in the streets again </strong><hr></blockquote>
Ironic that this documentary was done by two French men?
I don't think so. They were very impartial (as most documentary filmakers should be). At first they both seemed overwhelmed by the whole situation. But they kept on going and filmed what they saw. Each not knowing whether the other brother survived or not that day.
Human catastophy and tragedy I guess have a way with doing that to people. All politics, race, creed and color vanish and human survival (and saving others) kicks in...
<strong>I didn't say anything about the two French men who shot the footage. How much money did they make on this deal anyway?</strong><hr></blockquote>
These 2 french men live in New York anyway since 1989, when they did this job, they did not think one second of the money they can make, nor the fact that they may die, they where just in action and where professionals filming a scoop. I think that this two brothers are americans lovers, in the contrary they won't live in new york like 100 000 others french people.
For the money they make, did you ask the same question if they where true americans reporter ? or greed is just a french speciality ?.
The only irony, is that the fact that 2 french native men did the jobe prove that France is a non homogeneous countrie with man loving US, and some who won't : the eurotrash (trash if you call trash, people who don't share your opinions)
I wouldn't really care who made the documentary, I think the general upset would paying an absurd amount of money that the television industry tends to do for a documentary on something that moved the country so much.
I could really care less about their nationality, but I think if they were Americans that made the documentary, they'd of probably been a bit greedier.
I could really care less about their nationality, but I think if they were Americans that made the documentary, they'd of probably been a bit greedier.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Cut it out people! Greedy? This is how these guys earn a living. Scott, they were paid $1 million of which they've said they would keep enough to cover their expenses and donate the rest to some charity.
<strong>Anders - the documentary is going to be shown in Europe (assuming network uptake) on September 11.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I ear that too, in french TV, where the two journalist where interwieved, i just see some higllights of this documentary. One of the reporter, say that he was filming in a reflex of self-protection : when you are scared, the best way to keep cool blooded is to do your job. They said that (normally) the documentary will be shown at the first anniversary of the 11 september. I will look it , for the memory of the deads and the wounded.
Cut it out people! Greedy? This is how these guys earn a living. Scott, they were paid $1 million of which they've said they would keep enough to cover their expenses and donate the rest to some charity.</strong><hr></blockquote>
As long as they're giving a good chunk of it to charity it's fine. But they didn't have the intentions of making a documentary on the worst terrorist attack on the United States. They were making a documentary on firefighters, probably on a grant. So they got lucky with the footage they shot. I just think that had they been Americans, they would have pocketed more money than is going to charity.
I've done Documentary Photography for a long time, some on grants, some during my time at art school, most of it self funded. Were I in their Reeboks, I'd give most of it to charity. Again, I don't know the specifics, but the basis of my post was that I think an American duo would have kept more money.
As long as they're giving a good chunk of it to charity it's fine. But they didn't have the intentions of making a documentary on the worst terrorist attack on the United States. They were making a documentary on firefighters, probably on a grant. So they got lucky with the footage they shot...</strong><hr></blockquote>
So what? One of them still almost lost his life in the process.
[quote]<strong>I just think that had they been Americans, they would have pocketed more money than is going to charity.
I've done Documentary Photography for a long time, some on grants, some during my time at art school, most of it self funded. Were I in their Reeboks, I'd give most of it to charity. Again, I don't know the specifics, but the basis of my post was that I think an American duo would have kept more money.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Trying to get my mind around the idea that there are people out there whose first impulse when witnessing something like this is to worry about how much someone else is getting.
They have just lit up the memorial lights...two columns of blue white lights where the two towers stood. It will be lit every evening for a month...
I forgot how long the two French men had lived in America. There was an article on them last month in Vanity Fair. Might re-read that. Truly a great job...considering the chaos they witnessed and experienced.
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Most of the time you see militant terrorists behind masks and identity obscuring bandanas. Why do you think they wear those?
<strong>I second the request as to whether anyone knows if it will be re-aired....</strong><hr></blockquote>
Here's the CBS section on the documentary. Doesn't say when it will be re-aired or if it may be on video.
<a href="http://www.cbs.com/primetime/9_11/"; target="_blank">http://www.cbs.com/primetime/9_11/</a>;
I watched it and was impressed with the work Jules and Gedeon Naudet did. They really became close to the firemen they were documenting so they were able to follow them anywhere. Some scenes were almost sureal. Like this scene with the rookie and the WTC behind them...the night before the attacks. sorry if the image is blocked
Another scene that was unsetttling to watch were the faces of the firemen within the lobby...truly scared and almost helpless. The chaplin muttering prayers (he was later killed by falling debri). I didn't know that human bodies landed with such violent force as that...
And the collapse of the towers were terrifying. After the first tower collapsed and they were trying to find a safe way out...I still can't believe that it didn't cross their minds that those fully fueled planes would cause a structural melt down and collapse...
Only thing that bothered me was De Niro's narraration...you could tell he was reading a teleprompter. But I guess he's not experienced with this? I know he cares and all, being a New York native. He has his film center and restaurants near there too.
I hope this documentary will be released to schools and worldwide. Every human should see this, get an understanding that this is how it happened and how evil this act was.
<strong>Now we're back to the terrorist not being corwards.
That's not worth a comment <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
<strong>Now we're back to the terrorist not being corwards.
Ironic that this documentary was done by two French men?
I don't think so. They were very impartial (as most documentary filmakers should be). At first they both seemed overwhelmed by the whole situation. But they kept on going and filmed what they saw. Each not knowing whether the other brother survived or not that day.
Human catastophy and tragedy I guess have a way with doing that to people. All politics, race, creed and color vanish and human survival (and saving others) kicks in...
<strong>I didn't say anything about the two French men who shot the footage. How much money did they make on this deal anyway?</strong><hr></blockquote>
These 2 french men live in New York anyway since 1989, when they did this job, they did not think one second of the money they can make, nor the fact that they may die, they where just in action and where professionals filming a scoop. I think that this two brothers are americans lovers, in the contrary they won't live in new york like 100 000 others french people.
For the money they make, did you ask the same question if they where true americans reporter ? or greed is just a french speciality ?.
The only irony, is that the fact that 2 french native men did the jobe prove that France is a non homogeneous countrie with man loving US, and some who won't : the eurotrash (trash if you call trash, people who don't share your opinions)
I could really care less about their nationality, but I think if they were Americans that made the documentary, they'd of probably been a bit greedier.
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I could really care less about their nationality, but I think if they were Americans that made the documentary, they'd of probably been a bit greedier.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Cut it out people! Greedy? This is how these guys earn a living. Scott, they were paid $1 million of which they've said they would keep enough to cover their expenses and donate the rest to some charity.
<strong>Anders - the documentary is going to be shown in Europe (assuming network uptake) on September 11.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I ear that too, in french TV, where the two journalist where interwieved, i just see some higllights of this documentary. One of the reporter, say that he was filming in a reflex of self-protection : when you are scared, the best way to keep cool blooded is to do your job. They said that (normally) the documentary will be shown at the first anniversary of the 11 september. I will look it , for the memory of the deads and the wounded.
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Cut it out people! Greedy? This is how these guys earn a living. Scott, they were paid $1 million of which they've said they would keep enough to cover their expenses and donate the rest to some charity.</strong><hr></blockquote>
As long as they're giving a good chunk of it to charity it's fine. But they didn't have the intentions of making a documentary on the worst terrorist attack on the United States. They were making a documentary on firefighters, probably on a grant. So they got lucky with the footage they shot. I just think that had they been Americans, they would have pocketed more money than is going to charity.
I've done Documentary Photography for a long time, some on grants, some during my time at art school, most of it self funded. Were I in their Reeboks, I'd give most of it to charity. Again, I don't know the specifics, but the basis of my post was that I think an American duo would have kept more money.
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As long as they're giving a good chunk of it to charity it's fine. But they didn't have the intentions of making a documentary on the worst terrorist attack on the United States. They were making a documentary on firefighters, probably on a grant. So they got lucky with the footage they shot...</strong><hr></blockquote>
So what? One of them still almost lost his life in the process.
[quote]<strong>I just think that had they been Americans, they would have pocketed more money than is going to charity.
I've done Documentary Photography for a long time, some on grants, some during my time at art school, most of it self funded. Were I in their Reeboks, I'd give most of it to charity. Again, I don't know the specifics, but the basis of my post was that I think an American duo would have kept more money.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Trying to get my mind around the idea that there are people out there whose first impulse when witnessing something like this is to worry about how much someone else is getting.
I forgot how long the two French men had lived in America. There was an article on them last month in Vanity Fair. Might re-read that. Truly a great job...considering the chaos they witnessed and experienced.
<strong>9-11, I'm so sick of that word.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Oh poor baby. It's almost as if you have to jump from the 95th floor yourself. I feel your pain.