It's great to have Office on the platform, but the real test will be pricing.
Between Pages, Google Apps and OpenOffice, MS Office will have to be very competitively priced if it is to remain a force on the Mac platform. The Business Edition should come in a 5 or 10-pack for small businesses.
The icons do look nice and after having scored a copy of the beta 2 from bittorrent I can assure you the new version is pretty nice and coming from me that's saying a lot.
I want to join the beta program because I'm already beta testing Office 2010 on Windows for work but Microsoft hasn't opened the beta program up. I want a legit version.
Microsoft Communicator is for intra-business communication and on Windows at least, is pretty rubbish. It doesn't even support basics like sending files.
Plus, the way we have it set up at work, breaks every link you send by prefixing it with an underscore, forcing you to copy and paste the links into a browser. Apparently this is a security feature.
As for the icons - I prefer the new ones.
That's incorrect. Communicator does support file transfer and active hyperlinks. I suspect your system admin has disabled these features through group policy.
btw, they are trying to go for minimalism with these icons.
Let me break it to them, minimalism doesn't equate to minimal effort or taste.
These look something from an app from an obscure linux distro, that was put together in somebody's basement.
Most os x icons aim for realism, 3rd dimension properties, or a fun yet not tacky descriptive picture. And these guys opt for some flat, crap "ribbon" letters, non 3d, not realistic, and that are neither fun nor professional looking, but somewhere in the nondescript, generic uninspired in between area.
Yeah if they spent as much time on the product design as they do on the icons and the splash screen each time, they might have something worth buying someday.
Yes, because the graphic designers' team that does the icons are the same guys that do the software design...
Microsoft Communicator is for intra-business communication and on Windows at least, is pretty rubbish. It doesn't even support basics like sending files.
Plus, the way we have it set up at work, breaks every link you send by prefixing it with an underscore, forcing you to copy and paste the links into a browser. Apparently this is a security feature.
As for the icons - I prefer the new ones.
MS Office Communicator 2007 R2 is supporting sending files, among other typical communicator features (instant messages, call, video call, email...). We have started using it recently in our office, but just basics for now, so I can't tell how good/feature rich it really is (compared to other solutions).
These remind me of the plastic alphabet toys you buy for your 2-year-old to start teaching them the alphabet. Doesn't exactly say "professional applications" to me.
Yes, because the graphic designers' team that does the icons are the same guys that do the software design...
1) I was talking about the team as a whole.
2) The people doing the icons actually *should* be the same people doing all the UI elements.
3) If there is any kind of big separation between the UI artists and the coders, there is a problem.
A good software team thinks about UI all the time as an integral part of the product. A team that just "dresses up" what the coders do with some graphics at the end is not doing it right. A team that doesn't sweat every pixel of the UI is not likely to get a good product out the door.
Seriously, is anybody going to use Outlook? I am very happy with Apple's own Mail and how it seamlessly syncs with my iPhone and iPad. Does Outlook offer that but if not, why would anybody use it?
I have some serious issues with mail, so yes. I'm looking forward to Outlook.
The inability to choose a default certificate per account, no read receipt functionality, buggy smartcard encryption implementation... Yea - I'm hoping Outlook addresses these basics.
Ummm... buggy encryption, lack of any type of receipt processing, no support for choosing certificates. Those impact me every day for business, so to me they're serious.
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Between Pages, Google Apps and OpenOffice, MS Office will have to be very competitively priced if it is to remain a force on the Mac platform. The Business Edition should come in a 5 or 10-pack for small businesses.
I want to join the beta program because I'm already beta testing Office 2010 on Windows for work but Microsoft hasn't opened the beta program up. I want a legit version.
Does beta 3 open up to IT people yet?
Microsoft Communicator is for intra-business communication and on Windows at least, is pretty rubbish. It doesn't even support basics like sending files.
Plus, the way we have it set up at work, breaks every link you send by prefixing it with an underscore, forcing you to copy and paste the links into a browser. Apparently this is a security feature.
As for the icons - I prefer the new ones.
That's incorrect. Communicator does support file transfer and active hyperlinks. I suspect your system admin has disabled these features through group policy.
Do yourself a favor and study GM.
Even they were (barely) above throwing ugly new hubcaps on something & calling it a redesign.
Lets see if they in terms of speed it's a dog in performance.
Let me break it to them, minimalism doesn't equate to minimal effort or taste.
These look something from an app from an obscure linux distro, that was put together in somebody's basement.
Most os x icons aim for realism, 3rd dimension properties, or a fun yet not tacky descriptive picture. And these guys opt for some flat, crap "ribbon" letters, non 3d, not realistic, and that are neither fun nor professional looking, but somewhere in the nondescript, generic uninspired in between area.
am I the only one who likes the new icons?
i've seen worse...
Yeah if they spent as much time on the product design as they do on the icons and the splash screen each time, they might have something worth buying someday.
Yes, because the graphic designers' team that does the icons are the same guys that do the software design...
lipstick on a pig
Microsoft Communicator is for intra-business communication and on Windows at least, is pretty rubbish. It doesn't even support basics like sending files.
Plus, the way we have it set up at work, breaks every link you send by prefixing it with an underscore, forcing you to copy and paste the links into a browser. Apparently this is a security feature.
As for the icons - I prefer the new ones.
MS Office Communicator 2007 R2 is supporting sending files, among other typical communicator features (instant messages, call, video call, email...). We have started using it recently in our office, but just basics for now, so I can't tell how good/feature rich it really is (compared to other solutions).
Worst Icons Ever......
Couldn't agree more. By comparison, the old ones look like a work of art!
Yes, because the graphic designers' team that does the icons are the same guys that do the software design...
1) I was talking about the team as a whole.
2) The people doing the icons actually *should* be the same people doing all the UI elements.
3) If there is any kind of big separation between the UI artists and the coders, there is a problem.
A good software team thinks about UI all the time as an integral part of the product. A team that just "dresses up" what the coders do with some graphics at the end is not doing it right. A team that doesn't sweat every pixel of the UI is not likely to get a good product out the door.
Seriously, is anybody going to use Outlook? I am very happy with Apple's own Mail and how it seamlessly syncs with my iPhone and iPad. Does Outlook offer that but if not, why would anybody use it?
I have some serious issues with mail, so yes. I'm looking forward to Outlook.
The inability to choose a default certificate per account, no read receipt functionality, buggy smartcard encryption implementation... Yea - I'm hoping Outlook addresses these basics.
In Italy this means "take that!", it's not so polite
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sign_of_the_horns
Nice way to begin, Office 2011 for Mac
I have some serious issues with mail, so yes. ...
What might these serious issues be?
What might these serious issues be?
Ummm... buggy encryption, lack of any type of receipt processing, no support for choosing certificates. Those impact me every day for business, so to me they're serious.