it's called being cheap. they would rather pay $130 less for a wifi only ipad they can tether to an iphone etc and save that money, plus the monthly rate
Except this is a perfectly legitimate thing to do with any other smartphone. So basically, Apple is saying if you are just an iPad customer it is OK to get the wifi model and tether through your driod, but if you are a loyal Apple customer with an iPad and iPhone, you need the 3G iPad and you need to pay for two data plans.
If Apple was serious about stopping jailbreaking, the most effective thing they could do is reduce the incentives for non-hackers to learn the process. People who would not have jailbroken their phones will just to get MyWi now.
There is absolutely no reason to tether an iPhone with an iPad. You need two devices to get online? You can't pony up for the 3G iPad---but you can afford both devices?
Tethering a laptop is another matter. I agree that 2GB cap after paying a $20 fee is RIDICULOUS.
Sure there is a good reason, the same reason you would tether the laptop. Sure, you could opt for the 3G iPad, but you could also opt for a 3G stick for your laptop. But in both cases that means another data plan. For various reason you might not opt for a 3G stick for your laptop, but most of those same reasons apply for not choosing the 3G iPad.
In both cases, you already have your phone and it has your data plan. Is it any less likely that you would want to share it's data connection with your iPad than it is you would share it with your laptop? I would agree that a wired tether from iPhone to IPad might not be the best solution, but why not enable sharing over wifi, the same way your MacBook can, or over Bluetooth
so I guess if an Android phone(LG, Moto etc) did colonoscopy people would b**** at Apple for not allowing iphone to do the same thing. Meh!
Anyway, it should be noted that Verizon has tethering for some of their phone but they charge you for that. And if you don't want to pay then you hack your phone to make it happen anyway.
I don't get why people are refuting the truth of the article by claiming that it works over wifi. The article states that tethering will not be possible via bluetooth or USB.
This is not a matter of tethering. If you jailbreak your iPhone and install MyWi on it, your iPhone will act as a WiFi hotspot ... and I guess that is exactly how the Android behaves.
Yes, it is part of Apple's product strategy to limit a first gen product. Then they come out with a better one for less money. That's why I started visiting this site. To try to know when it's safe to "pull the trigger" on something new.
In this case I find that hard to believe. Tethering for the iPhone came late to the game but eventually the older models got it too, so no forced hardware upgrade.
My guess is more people would be willing to upgrade to newer phones than newer iPads at this point since the performance level with the current one is relatively good for most people, so wouldn't seem very smart feature for Apple to use to try to force hardware upgrades.
Even though I disagree with some of Apple's decisions, I can understand why they do most of them. This one leaves me scratching my head because I don't really see what Apple has to gain with this strategy. Although AT&T says it's not up to them, almost seems like there is a backdoor agreement.
P.S. Yes these moves are forcing many of us to Jailbreak when the addition of a few basic and simple features from Apple would probably keep of from needing to.
Well, if you ignore the small minority that's responsible for 40% of the usage (as you've done) I suppose that makes sense.
the statement is made as a whole, there fore your 40% would be included and with most people making comments about how AT&T blows, this is just one more thing on top of AT&T's not gonna do a damn thing to fix anything. These data caps won't do much to hep alleviate there network congestion.
This is a different form of tethering. It would be cool though. What I'd really like to see is GPS information forwarded by wifi. The Cradlepoint access point devices will do it, but the google maps app doesn't know how to interpret it.
This is not new. I've been doing this with a Nokia phone for over a year to my MBP. Just because it is new to the US does not make it new to the rest of the world.
AT&T is bogus, at least Verizon let's me tether my laptop to the wireless router at home. Although, there are many wifi hotspots around the US now where anyone can tether their laptops, phones, iPads to them.
*WAIT JUST A SECOND AT&T, APPLE AND APPLE INSIDER!!!
You don't tether with wifi. You tether with USB... or ... nowadays, BlueTooth. If you are connecting to a wifi network, whether that network is ad hoc or wide, you don't *tether* to it, you numskulls. You simply *join* the available wifi network. WTF
If the new iPhone running iPhone OS 4.0 can receive a 3G, EDGE, or GPRS signal, then, because its BSD, it can easily route and address forward translation (aka NAT, or Internet Sharing) it's cell network data source to its builtin wifi. This effectively makes the phone a wifi access point. Why anyone would confuse this with tethering is hard to fathom.
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it's called being cheap. they would rather pay $130 less for a wifi only ipad they can tether to an iphone etc and save that money, plus the monthly rate
Except this is a perfectly legitimate thing to do with any other smartphone. So basically, Apple is saying if you are just an iPad customer it is OK to get the wifi model and tether through your driod, but if you are a loyal Apple customer with an iPad and iPhone, you need the 3G iPad and you need to pay for two data plans.
If Apple was serious about stopping jailbreaking, the most effective thing they could do is reduce the incentives for non-hackers to learn the process. People who would not have jailbroken their phones will just to get MyWi now.
There is absolutely no reason to tether an iPhone with an iPad. You need two devices to get online? You can't pony up for the 3G iPad---but you can afford both devices?
Tethering a laptop is another matter. I agree that 2GB cap after paying a $20 fee is RIDICULOUS.
Sure there is a good reason, the same reason you would tether the laptop. Sure, you could opt for the 3G iPad, but you could also opt for a 3G stick for your laptop. But in both cases that means another data plan. For various reason you might not opt for a 3G stick for your laptop, but most of those same reasons apply for not choosing the 3G iPad.
In both cases, you already have your phone and it has your data plan. Is it any less likely that you would want to share it's data connection with your iPad than it is you would share it with your laptop? I would agree that a wired tether from iPhone to IPad might not be the best solution, but why not enable sharing over wifi, the same way your MacBook can, or over Bluetooth
Anyway, it should be noted that Verizon has tethering for some of their phone but they charge you for that. And if you don't want to pay then you hack your phone to make it happen anyway.
I don't get why people are refuting the truth of the article by claiming that it works over wifi. The article states that tethering will not be possible via bluetooth or USB.
This is not a matter of tethering. If you jailbreak your iPhone and install MyWi on it, your iPhone will act as a WiFi hotspot ... and I guess that is exactly how the Android behaves.
Yes, it is part of Apple's product strategy to limit a first gen product. Then they come out with a better one for less money. That's why I started visiting this site. To try to know when it's safe to "pull the trigger" on something new.
In this case I find that hard to believe. Tethering for the iPhone came late to the game but eventually the older models got it too, so no forced hardware upgrade.
My guess is more people would be willing to upgrade to newer phones than newer iPads at this point since the performance level with the current one is relatively good for most people, so wouldn't seem very smart feature for Apple to use to try to force hardware upgrades.
Even though I disagree with some of Apple's decisions, I can understand why they do most of them. This one leaves me scratching my head because I don't really see what Apple has to gain with this strategy. Although AT&T says it's not up to them, almost seems like there is a backdoor agreement.
P.S. Yes these moves are forcing many of us to Jailbreak when the addition of a few basic and simple features from Apple would probably keep of from needing to.
Well, if you ignore the small minority that's responsible for 40% of the usage (as you've done) I suppose that makes sense.
the statement is made as a whole, there fore your 40% would be included and with most people making comments about how AT&T blows, this is just one more thing on top of AT&T's not gonna do a damn thing to fix anything. These data caps won't do much to hep alleviate there network congestion.
This is a different form of tethering. It would be cool though. What I'd really like to see is GPS information forwarded by wifi. The Cradlepoint access point devices will do it, but the google maps app doesn't know how to interpret it.
This is not new. I've been doing this with a Nokia phone for over a year to my MBP. Just because it is new to the US does not make it new to the rest of the world.
*WAIT JUST A SECOND AT&T, APPLE AND APPLE INSIDER!!!
You don't tether with wifi. You tether with USB... or ... nowadays, BlueTooth. If you are connecting to a wifi network, whether that network is ad hoc or wide, you don't *tether* to it, you numskulls. You simply *join* the available wifi network. WTF
If the new iPhone running iPhone OS 4.0 can receive a 3G, EDGE, or GPRS signal, then, because its BSD, it can easily route and address forward translation (aka NAT, or Internet Sharing) it's cell network data source to its builtin wifi. This effectively makes the phone a wifi access point. Why anyone would confuse this with tethering is hard to fathom.