<strong>Now I can also note that my girlfriend sent me an email showing someone sending her messages on my name, when I wasn't on.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Another thing you can try to do is if your girlfriend is getting messages from your screen name when it isn't you, you can get the IP Address from that person by using a little social engineering and netsat. I do not know if there is a netstat tool for OS 9.
First off, you need to establish a direct connection with your screen name by initiating either a file transfer, an IM image, or use the Talk feature. All of these will create a direct connection to the user. Once you have done this do the following
PC:
1.Click on Start
2.Choose ?Run?
3.Type ?command?
4.Click ?OK?
This will open a MS-DOS Prompt. Then type in the following command:
?netstat ?n?
For OS X launch the Terminal and type in the same command as above.
This will show all of the active connections to your computer and the corresponding IP address for each connection. You might want to do this before establishing a direct connection and either printing or saving the results and then once you do establish a direct connection, run netstat again (keep your terminal or dos prompt open and ready) and compare the two outputs to see the new IP address. You then will at least have an IP address of the perpetrator(s). (Unless they have spoofed it)
I would also get a Caller ID box and you can set up your phone to not accept incoming calls if the ?number is unknown? (you can dial *67 to block the sending of your caller ID information or you can actually pay the phone company to block it all together). They would then have to unblock their caller ID (dial *82) before your phone would actually ring, you?d then have their telephone number. Your phone company should be able to set this up for you.
Good luck with all of this, and I hope I helped some.
But seriously? You are playing charades and word games and you want us to be serious? Just come out with it boy, this is serious. And you haven't called the cops yet...why?
First, calm down. Nobody's out to get you. It's 99.9% definitely kids that somehow got your password ****ing around with you.
1. Tell your folks. Don't mention the girlfriend bit; just say it's been happening to a friend of yours as well, and it's a bit scary.
They will decide whether or not to call the police.
2. RE: your DP G4.
Burn a backup of anything crucial, and format the HD.
Reinstall 9.2 and then X. Run Software update. See if problems persist. If they do, contact Apple and tell them what's up. They won't be too keen on troubleshooting your machine if it's an error that you caused in trying to install a theme or something dumb like that.
I have *never* seen OS X throw up an 'Open with which application?' dialog box. Never. Unless you're in 9....
Frankly, if you want our help, you need to calm the hell down and give us the full story. Step by step, chronologically. If you want to talk to me personally, feel free to drop me an email or get me on AIM: jrw227.
Ok. I just reread this, and have a bit more advice to offer.
1. Calm down. The combination of all the things makes it seem even more like it's people you know trying to **** with you. Especially the phone stuff- people off the internet don't know your home phone number, unless you've been giving it out.
When a harassing call happens, just say hello once or twice, and if nobody says anything hang up. Period.
Then, you can hit *57 and this will activate call-trace at the phone company. This logs that as an annoying call on the phone company's logs. If a particular number calls and gets *57'ed 5 times by you, the police are alerted by the phone company. Automatically. Doesn't involve the girlfriend or anything.
2. AIM: log onto your normal AIM screen name and change your password to something totally random.
This should prevent anyone who has your current password from being able to sign on your account from here on out.
3. Tell your girlfriend to not worry, but to do the same thing regarding the harassing phone calls.
4. Yahoo. Get a new Yahoo screen name.
The reason you are being 'blocked' on either service is because you are either already signed on at a different location- i.e. someone else is using your name, or because you've signed on and off too rapidly in a short period of time.
5. If you're going into public chat rooms, lay off for a while.
6. I doubt that, if you're using OS X, there are any virii or trojans on your computer. That being said, start a new topic in Genius Bar about all the problems that you're having and I'm sure we can help... make a nice itemized list of the symptoms... we're smart folks who want to help.
Frankly, with multiple people telling you that people are doing stuff to you and your girlfriend, and using your screen name, etc. it would seem as if it's a bunch of kids that have singled you out for whatever reason. It's not a question of why or feeling bad about this; it's a case of get even. Give it to the police. Kids are malicious sometimes, and the little ****ers deserve to be prosecuted under the full extent of the law, if they are harassing you as they say. Some police departments (especially state police) have specialized teams that work on cyber-crime. Identity theft- if this continues after changing passwords- and harassment on the Internet are FELONIES. These people, if they continue, run a big risk.
Frankly, I say, you've got a very big, very pointy stick in your hand in the shape of the police. If this continues, poke the ****ers in the eye with that stick. They deserve it.
<strong>The reason you are being 'blocked' on either service is because you are either already signed on at a different location- i.e. someone else is using your name, or because you've signed on and off too rapidly in a short period of time.</strong><hr></blockquote>I'm not sure about Yahoo, but I know that with AIM, if you try to connect while already connected with another client, the second one kicks off the first, allowing you to connect. You are corect, though, about connecting too frequently. If you hold off for 15-30 minutes, it should let you back on. [quote]<strong>Frankly, I say, you've got a very big, very pointy stick in your hand in the shape of the police. If this continues, poke the ****ers in the eye with that stick. They deserve it.</strong><hr></blockquote>Agreed. Take action. Jonathan is spot-on with his suggestions, especially about the call trace.
[snip] oops... didn't see someone already posted this info.
as for the "Open with application" dialog, I heard that there is a hacker-app that sends out false dialogs. not sure how to fix it though, except for totally erasing the HD, and also i think it stores a file in the system folder so look through that with a fine tooth comb(not sure if the app has been "arrested" yet)
This is not just somebody f*cking with me, definitely. The point about it has to be someone who knows me just f*cking me for them to have my phone number is moot. If this person can successfully hack both my Yahoo! & AIM accounts which do not have passwords that are even remotely similar tells me that somehow they know how to do some stuff, and its scary.
I actually never go in chat anymore. I used to a long time ago. The harassment came 2 years ago when we first started going out and I would get people (on different & what seemed like randomly made up names) giving me sh*t about us, basically bothering me. I actually have several Yahoo IDs and they have come at me on those too. How would they even know my other names?
You are right about the blocked thing on AIM. When this occured a few nights ago I then got back on with another name I made. My gf sent me convo from someone who was using my name right when this was happening to me.
I am about to check my email again, but it's looking like I have virtually no way of getting a hold of my account now. Yahoo has a password lookup and when I do that it gives me errors. Thats the only thing I can do to get my password back.
No I haven't called the cops yet, but I do plan on finding this bastard. Could it be somebody who knows her or did? Somebody so jealous that Im with her now? that doesnt seem very likely.
As far as my computer, yes Im tired of this. I didnt do anything "dumb" to make it this way. The only thing I've done was download a few programs and tried to install them. This is no reason for the computer to never remember its settins now. Everytime it is booted up the resolution is changed, and the desktop background picture I put on is gone. I then have to restart it. And yes, it always asks me for an application to open something.
Use a computer with internet access that is not your own and not on your connection to the internet. Not your girlfriend's either. Change any passwords that you still have and aren't giving you any troubble. try not to access them from your machine without 128 or at least 64 bit incription. and be very careful with the info that you give out and who you give it to.
just thought of something about the phone calls: does your school(if your that age) have a database of phone numbers that students can access. It might be someone jealous of you b/c he had been your girlfriends old boyfriend, so he is harassing you
Ok, I once had to change my email and AIM account becuase of this guy who was jealous of me because I was friends (that's it just friends) with this girl that he had a long distance elationship with... but it was nothing to this magnitude. He never got into my email account and I simply had to shut it down because he would go around and sign me up for all sorts of spam and newsletters. As far as AIM is concerned, I don't know how he got into it, but I simply changed my name and that setteled that (lost my buddy list though) and so I really can't help but I do simpathize. Personally, I would also go to the police and also, this person seems to know everything that you do on your computer, perhaps s/he's a watcher. I would try to change your IP if possible through your provider. That might help... and good luck to you!
I would think, depending on how much you value your safety and the people you care about, get more people involved. Even if this is not something as serious as it could be, you will at least feel safe. Parents or Cops. I understand that you do not want them involved at this stage, but I would be freaked out. This seems like a prank, but, someone should not make you do something to the extent of being scared this much.
Call the cops or parents, ask either of them for help. Discuss relationshipal problems later
Why? You have no evidence that she is even a part of the equation causing this.
Call the cops, and be a man with your folks. If you are truly worried then that is what needs to happen. Also do the phone trace through the phone company for sure so that you have a log of harassing calls that is easy to find.
Comments
Wow!
Yeah, I think your parents wouldn't like that one bit.
But seriously.
<strong>Now I can also note that my girlfriend sent me an email showing someone sending her messages on my name, when I wasn't on.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Another thing you can try to do is if your girlfriend is getting messages from your screen name when it isn't you, you can get the IP Address from that person by using a little social engineering and netsat. I do not know if there is a netstat tool for OS 9.
First off, you need to establish a direct connection with your screen name by initiating either a file transfer, an IM image, or use the Talk feature. All of these will create a direct connection to the user. Once you have done this do the following
PC:
1.Click on Start
2.Choose ?Run?
3.Type ?command?
4.Click ?OK?
This will open a MS-DOS Prompt. Then type in the following command:
?netstat ?n?
For OS X launch the Terminal and type in the same command as above.
This will show all of the active connections to your computer and the corresponding IP address for each connection. You might want to do this before establishing a direct connection and either printing or saving the results and then once you do establish a direct connection, run netstat again (keep your terminal or dos prompt open and ready) and compare the two outputs to see the new IP address. You then will at least have an IP address of the perpetrator(s). (Unless they have spoofed it)
I would also get a Caller ID box and you can set up your phone to not accept incoming calls if the ?number is unknown? (you can dial *67 to block the sending of your caller ID information or you can actually pay the phone company to block it all together). They would then have to unblock their caller ID (dial *82) before your phone would actually ring, you?d then have their telephone number. Your phone company should be able to set this up for you.
Good luck with all of this, and I hope I helped some.
<strong>Hmm...who's Annie Lennox?
But seriously.
But seriously? You are playing charades and word games and you want us to be serious? Just come out with it boy, this is serious. And you haven't called the cops yet...why?
Interesting. Is this some sort of weird coping mechanism?
<img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
Here's what I would do.
First, calm down. Nobody's out to get you. It's 99.9% definitely kids that somehow got your password ****ing around with you.
1. Tell your folks. Don't mention the girlfriend bit; just say it's been happening to a friend of yours as well, and it's a bit scary.
They will decide whether or not to call the police.
2. RE: your DP G4.
Burn a backup of anything crucial, and format the HD.
Reinstall 9.2 and then X. Run Software update. See if problems persist. If they do, contact Apple and tell them what's up. They won't be too keen on troubleshooting your machine if it's an error that you caused in trying to install a theme or something dumb like that.
I have *never* seen OS X throw up an 'Open with which application?' dialog box. Never. Unless you're in 9....
Frankly, if you want our help, you need to calm the hell down and give us the full story. Step by step, chronologically. If you want to talk to me personally, feel free to drop me an email or get me on AIM: jrw227.
1. Calm down. The combination of all the things makes it seem even more like it's people you know trying to **** with you. Especially the phone stuff- people off the internet don't know your home phone number, unless you've been giving it out.
When a harassing call happens, just say hello once or twice, and if nobody says anything hang up. Period.
Then, you can hit *57 and this will activate call-trace at the phone company. This logs that as an annoying call on the phone company's logs. If a particular number calls and gets *57'ed 5 times by you, the police are alerted by the phone company. Automatically. Doesn't involve the girlfriend or anything.
2. AIM: log onto your normal AIM screen name and change your password to something totally random.
This should prevent anyone who has your current password from being able to sign on your account from here on out.
3. Tell your girlfriend to not worry, but to do the same thing regarding the harassing phone calls.
4. Yahoo. Get a new Yahoo screen name.
The reason you are being 'blocked' on either service is because you are either already signed on at a different location- i.e. someone else is using your name, or because you've signed on and off too rapidly in a short period of time.
5. If you're going into public chat rooms, lay off for a while.
6. I doubt that, if you're using OS X, there are any virii or trojans on your computer. That being said, start a new topic in Genius Bar about all the problems that you're having and I'm sure we can help... make a nice itemized list of the symptoms... we're smart folks who want to help.
Frankly, with multiple people telling you that people are doing stuff to you and your girlfriend, and using your screen name, etc. it would seem as if it's a bunch of kids that have singled you out for whatever reason. It's not a question of why or feeling bad about this; it's a case of get even. Give it to the police. Kids are malicious sometimes, and the little ****ers deserve to be prosecuted under the full extent of the law, if they are harassing you as they say. Some police departments (especially state police) have specialized teams that work on cyber-crime. Identity theft- if this continues after changing passwords- and harassment on the Internet are FELONIES. These people, if they continue, run a big risk.
Frankly, I say, you've got a very big, very pointy stick in your hand in the shape of the police. If this continues, poke the ****ers in the eye with that stick. They deserve it.
<strong>The reason you are being 'blocked' on either service is because you are either already signed on at a different location- i.e. someone else is using your name, or because you've signed on and off too rapidly in a short period of time.</strong><hr></blockquote>I'm not sure about Yahoo, but I know that with AIM, if you try to connect while already connected with another client, the second one kicks off the first, allowing you to connect. You are corect, though, about connecting too frequently. If you hold off for 15-30 minutes, it should let you back on. [quote]<strong>Frankly, I say, you've got a very big, very pointy stick in your hand in the shape of the police. If this continues, poke the ****ers in the eye with that stick. They deserve it.</strong><hr></blockquote>Agreed. Take action. Jonathan is spot-on with his suggestions, especially about the call trace.
[snip] oops... didn't see someone already posted this info.
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<strong>It's 2 different words.</strong><hr></blockquote>is she an alaskan lawyer?
Bodhi's got a point about this name-game. If this is so serious, just out with it already. We're just trying to help.
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A=Age
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This is not just somebody f*cking with me, definitely. The point about it has to be someone who knows me just f*cking me for them to have my phone number is moot. If this person can successfully hack both my Yahoo! & AIM accounts which do not have passwords that are even remotely similar tells me that somehow they know how to do some stuff, and its scary.
I actually never go in chat anymore. I used to a long time ago. The harassment came 2 years ago when we first started going out and I would get people (on different & what seemed like randomly made up names) giving me sh*t about us, basically bothering me. I actually have several Yahoo IDs and they have come at me on those too. How would they even know my other names?
You are right about the blocked thing on AIM. When this occured a few nights ago I then got back on with another name I made. My gf sent me convo from someone who was using my name right when this was happening to me.
I am about to check my email again, but it's looking like I have virtually no way of getting a hold of my account now. Yahoo has a password lookup and when I do that it gives me errors. Thats the only thing I can do to get my password back.
No I haven't called the cops yet, but I do plan on finding this bastard. Could it be somebody who knows her or did? Somebody so jealous that Im with her now? that doesnt seem very likely.
As far as my computer, yes Im tired of this. I didnt do anything "dumb" to make it this way. The only thing I've done was download a few programs and tried to install them. This is no reason for the computer to never remember its settins now. Everytime it is booted up the resolution is changed, and the desktop background picture I put on is gone. I then have to restart it. And yes, it always asks me for an application to open something.
Call the cops or parents, ask either of them for help. Discuss relationshipal problems later
<strong>dump her.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Why? You have no evidence that she is even a part of the equation causing this.
Call the cops, and be a man with your folks. If you are truly worried then that is what needs to happen. Also do the phone trace through the phone company for sure so that you have a log of harassing calls that is easy to find.